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- fixinor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Why the hell would I start doing their job for them goddamnit?
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10At least this doesn't pretend to be a Digg killer, or anybody killer.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yea, I don't think it's going to 'kill' anything. Rather, I think it's kind of cool. It will (read: has the potential to) be a repository for all amateur videos pertaining to breaking news. For instance, when another tsunami happens, it could host all of those tsunami videos.
- procdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Brilliant way for them to get content w/o paying for it. Since I'm sure you're signing away your 1st born child with every picture you submit.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You're too sensitive.
- bump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hmmm.
The license for submitted content is crazy. Take a read:
"you hereby grant to CNN a non-exclusive, perpetual, worldwide license to edit, telecast, rerun, reproduce, use, syndicate, license, print, distribute and otherwise exhibit the materials you submit, or any portion thereof, as incorporated in any of CNN's programming or the promotion thereof, in any manner and in any medium or forum, whether now known or hereafter devised, without making payment to you or any third party. " - Battlecry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6http://www.cnn.com/exchange/
It's kinda ugly and confusing. I hope they're not looking to the average joe for content because the site doesn't seem very user friendly. - brainjuice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6My thoughts exactly, fixinor.
- kubudubudubuntu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It will probably not work, they will have to review hundreds of stories every day , that are either old, or just not worth mentioning.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Actually, you've just pointed out an irony I hadn't noticed. People were slamming Netscape for offering to pay people to submit content, and now they're slamming CNN for NOT paying them to submit content. I wonder what those complainers really want...
- malice8691, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Great. Now I have to do thier jobs too?
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And? That's pretty standard.
They can't be doing with people deciding 2 years down the line that they no longer like CNN that day, so they're going to demand it is removed from everywhere it exists. It's pretty standard that if you are going to submit something to an organisation, you'll give them the perpetual right to use it.
I used to run a site that took file submissions from people, and originally I didn't have that as a clause. It caused so much damn trouble with people just deciding one day that they didn't like the site and so wanted 300 files removed or edited that I put that clause in.
You aren't giving them the copyright, and they aren't asking for an exclusive agreement. It's just saying that if you give it to them, they will be able to use it however they see fit.
It's interesting that everyone is raving about user generated content in "teh intarWebz2.0", but as soon as it involves a corporation they suddenly become rip-off scum. You can't have it both ways. Digg is a corporation and if they want, they could use your comment above however they want. If you don't like that clause you quoted, I'd stop using just about every website, because it applies to most companies. - carniv0re, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't wait for them to get duped by some hoax video.
- veza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Submit yours http://edition.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/breaking.news.html
- bitt3n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4if I start selling chocolate covered spiders to widespread acclaim, and then a thousand other people copy me, I can reasonably make fun of them for jumping on the chocolate covered spiders bandwagon, even if chocolate covered spiders are delicious.
And they are. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3BBC and Sky in the UK already do this, and it works very well. In fact, the most memorable image of the London bombs last year was actually sent in by a reader (a photo of people leaving the tube trains underground).
It's a good way forward, providing the organisations don't end up relying on users as their primary resource. Users should be supplementary only, I think.
To other people: Don't be cynical about it. It's easy to think you're doing their job for them etc.etc., but it isn't like that (at least for BBC and Sky). If you don't want to contribute to them, you aren't forced to. - upfrontfanatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you surprised in any way?
I know I'm not. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Instead of 'the next DIGG killer', or another company 'jumping on the user-generated content bandwagon', did it ever occur to you that, just maybe, media as we know it is turning a corner?
- WarMace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If its worthy of CNN breaking news i think ill try to get some money for it the old fashioned way.
- LOUiSSCHiSM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1YouTube.
This company has created a PHENOMENON which has the Corporate Verminous Types collectively crapping their pants.
40 million videos and 200 terabytes of data per day?
Somebodies doing something right
Cue: The diseased and stinking middlemen.
They waddle forth, and look at how this "New Thang" is to be controlled and made lucrative. Dilute and neuter.
And always forgetting that the Future is a never ending series of suprises. - Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I admit its hard to figure out where is the submit link but what is hard with your name phone number and general location and browse to the file? The only problem I see is the 1mb limit for audio and pictures.
- rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So they will be paying how much for the use of my stuff in their propaganda campaigns?
- hemphill81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@upfrontfanatic
The comment was not as much of an insult as it was stating the obvious. Companys love the UGC model as it is self sustaining and you are starting to see more of them ex. Wal-Mart. We will see more of this I am sure the fun thing will be watching to see who will succeed. - jake8689, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so basically killing current t.v if you don't know what current its the CNN thing only on t.v and Internet
- fixinor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is actually how big corporations use legal mumbo-jumbo to screw over the little guy and pirate his content. If I ever have some news-worthy footage you better pay me for it cause I have yet to see a single CNN-broadcast that weren't full of advertising.
- macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's always interesting to watch the old guard when they stop teasing new media tech and start to embrace it instead. Even more so in the rural south as this area seems to be 10 years behind the rest of the country.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nothing. Don't like it? Don't submit it. Easy.
Not everyone on this planet is out to make money off of being in the right place at the right time. - rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1CNN is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They're cashing in on youtube.
- rabiddogma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes and would it really be a big deal for a company like CNN to offer content in the format of the users choice?
The problem with MP4 is that not every player supports it--and there are so many variations of it that it's not all that practical. We really need a good standard web video format. Flash video is close but it's not portable. - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think KABC7 (L.A.) used to let users submit videos (camera phones, video cameras, etc.) of breaking news. I don't see it on its Web site anymore.
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1CNN you choose:A new site to allow user to promote stories that they think is a cool
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Funny how big companies feeling the heat want free help from readers in sad attempts to radiate a sense that they are to be taken seriously.
- febridge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is lame! The user interface is poorly designed. As it stands it will take way too much time to find anything. I doubt that CNN will have any success with this. Keep DIGGING.
- vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -1/+1Sky news (uk) already do this, although they only use email, phone, sms, and webcams. they don't have a website specifically for it though.
- ninjatroll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Are they offering more than Netscape?
If yes, I'm soooo there. - upfrontfanatic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I blame big business and their desperate attempt to "protect" their content. Anyone can make a high-quality XviD file, but anyone can also download and redistribute it.
Big business doesn't like this, and thus exclusively uses proprietary technologies like Windows Media. It's annoying, no doubt, but to quote the matrix... "Welcome to the real world".
As long as big business want total control of their "IP", you can't expect anything else. - macnerd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I hate this as well. The company I work for also standardized on WMP. I asked why and they told me because when they used Real Player they got a lot of complaints because people couldn't ever get the video to work. I don't get it but that's what I was told.
If you must stick with one of the 3 top players why not Quicktime since a lot of people have that installed because of their iPod? Or better yet just use MP4 so anyone can use any player they want.
The problem with the MP4 approach is the companies are afraid people won't come back to their site to watch the video again since it'll be downloaded. That's one less hit, less money...... - bogaboga, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3My problem with CNN is that they think everyone in the world uses Microsoft and Windows technology to access the internet. You try to watch some of their videos and are asked to install some Windows Media Player! I get frustrated by this.
- kent1146, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1You know, good for CNN... let the masses comment on stories and CNN reporting. At least they're not offering to pay users to submit comment, like Nutscrape.
- Shanghai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Headline is a bit confusing.
How can you NOT ask for audience help if your goal is user generated content? - cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Then you could also ask: Why are people submitting content to any web2.0 site?
- upfrontfanatic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1You couldn't be more wrong. I just said I thought it was amusing. You also blindly assumed I care about digg.
Hanging out in undernet #linux for several years, might make you grumpy and cynical, but most certainly -not- sensitive. - Shakermaker, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1They already have a website like this - it's called "Fark.com".
God - the news is already poor - having Jon Q Internet send stuff in will make it worse... - upfrontfanatic, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1"Jumped on the user generated content bandwagon."
I may be reading that wrong, but that sorta sounds like an insult. A insult against sites with user-generated content. Like digg.
Amusing.
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