What is Digg?Warning: The Content in this Article May be Inaccurate
Readers have reported that this story contains information that may not be accurate.186 Comments
- ayeroxor, on 11/19/2007, -1/+81Like your speedy computer? Better enjoy it now. Applications that take your entire 640k of ram are on the horizon, and nobody will be able to do a thing about it.
/yawn - AlexBellisBrown, on 11/19/2007, -0/+67No problem, the same thing happened with the electric system. It grows and grows, more people use it, every so often it all need upgraded. I'm sure most telephone interchanges are ADSL enabled in the UK & US now, the next step is renewing the infrastructure. New fiber optic cables... etc.
- Error601, on 11/19/2007, -3/+64Nonsense. Most of them run on all fiber and upgrades take minutes to do. It's really a matter of the hardware cost which drops all the time compared to capacity like any other computer equipment. You may have cable into your house but that's only the last segment.
- levharrisr, on 11/19/2007, -1/+58Where there's porn, there's a way.
- abenton, on 11/19/2007, -1/+45The problem isn't so much that we'll start to slow down after 2010, it's that ISP's are dragging their feet on upgrading their end-user infrastructures, which is dooming the last-mile networks (from ISP to home). If they'd hurry up and spend the money to lay new fiber, and offer more speed, we could cut this thing off before it kills us.
- musters, on 11/19/2007, -0/+29You'd think with the $40 a month I drop for internet multiplied by everyone else using the net they could maybe invest a little in their infrastructure instead of cashing out.
It definitely does not cost them $40 a month to give me my services. - thinkjones, on 11/19/2007, -0/+26Yawn this story pops its head every few months, do you really think internet bandwidth technology and infrastructure is going to stagnate?
- abenton, on 11/19/2007, -1/+26The want to deliver vasts amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes.
- rompom7, on 11/19/2007, -0/+24This is silly.
The Law of Accelerating Returns... We're going have exponentially faster networks and internet as time goes on. As demand increases, so do profits, which in turn brings research, which brings more technology (faster lines, fatter pipes, better data management (caching & compression)).
It's just like moore's law but for any technology (not just the number of transistors on a CPU). - phybere, on 11/19/2007, -3/+24This is net neutrality FUD... "Oh no, we're running out of broadband we need to eliminate net neutrality so we can still enjoy fast speeds."
Or, we could upgrade our infrastructure (but that costs money). - doublehead, on 11/19/2007, -3/+23quantum physics will come to the rescue in time
- doctechnical, on 11/19/2007, -2/+18Tell that to Schrödinger's cat!
- Ninnux, on 11/19/2007, -2/+17I smell a class action lawsuit in the making. How can Comcastic promise a certain speed on one hand and then overbook their capacity on the other? Imagine if your water or electric company did that.
- kaeda, on 11/19/2007, -5/+20we get bad reception on the ship. One time we had to run a wire all the way back to Port Royal, just to get my morning Youtube! Yarg!
- bigthree, on 12/03/2007, -2/+17you'll see increase to fiber to the home for tv/phone/internet as companies invest in the money to be made online -- hopefully it will help
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+14I would, but he's dead. I checked.
- MWeather, on 11/19/2007, -1/+14We are. But artificial mass-extinction takes time to result in oil.
- doctechnical, on 11/19/2007, -3/+16Who's replacing oil?
- 89vision, on 11/19/2007, -6/+19When are people gonna realize its not a ***** truck?
- ShuttleDisaster, on 11/19/2007, -1/+13this is sensationalist hogwash. Absolutely not true.
- bioskope, on 11/19/2007, -0/+11tell me about it. Its not just that these telcos dont wanna lay cable; they sure as hell will oppose any sort of action from the authorities when it comes to laying down cable.
Let me CopyPasta an extract from an article on wired about a city called Kutztown in PA which tried to offer FTTH to the citizens but got shafted by you know who..
"Across the United States, towns and cities dissatisfied with data services provided by the private sector are now delivering high-speed connectivity to the doorstep, often at lower prices. In the process, however, municipalities are facing increasingly fierce opposition from cable operators and telecommunications companies unhappy with the competition. In some cases, cable companies and telcos are fighting to bar utilities entirely from providing broadband in the future.
Kutztown was the first community in Pennsylvania to offer fiber to the home for its residents, and a bill in the Pennsylvania House could make it the last. The aim of the Government Competition Against Private Enterprise Act (HB298) is to "protect economic opportunities for private enterprise against unfair competition by government agencies" in services "beyond their government function."
The bill, which was drafted a few months after Kutztown began providing fiber to the home, is a direct result of the threat of competition to cable TV and telecommunications providers, according to Nicholas Giordano, a telecommunications strategist at consulting firm Affinity Group. "
There you have it. See why you have the "Government Competition Against Private Enterprise Act"? To look after the smaller guy, who happen to be the private sector telcos here, not the common people like you and me. - dattaway, on 11/19/2007, -0/+10Thanks to patents and exclusive licensing deals, I'm sure Verizon will be happy to be your one stop source for fiber.
- ScaredOfTheMan, on 11/19/2007, -0/+10Sounds like FUD to me, look who is trumpeting the study
"The findings were embraced by the Internet Innovation Alliance (IIA), a tech industry and public interest coalition that advocates tax and spending policies that favor investments in Web capacity."
So put another way, a group made up of AT&T (+ a few other telcos) and a bunch of hardware manufacturers (check their web site About us) think we should give them tax breaks to fix the internet, otherwise the trucks won't get through the tubes by 2011. :) - jaskerzada, on 11/19/2007, -0/+10More like roughly $3/month. That's not counting the subsidies of tax dollars they've been awarded by our "representatives."
- youdlike2know, on 11/19/2007, -0/+10what a steaming load..
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+9The internet is already slow even with broad band , people will just move to the faster carrier like FiOS, if it were in my area i would switch away from cable for sure.
- crapmatic, on 11/19/2007, -0/+9I, for one, demand that this country service my tube. Its lack of utilization is leading to unusually short latency times.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+81. nature is replacing oil through high heat and monstrous compression of ancient jungles at this very moment. Should be ready in another 6 million years or so.
2. all the "experts" (of which there are still *none*) have been passing along this story to scare porn hounds since at least 1996 when I started paying attention, and it's always been about three years out. And it still hasn't happened. - doctechnical, on 11/19/2007, -0/+8You had to look, didn't you, you bastard!
- totaldepravity, on 11/19/2007, -0/+8I'm sure the telecom companies will just slow down the sites that don't pay them to alleviate traffic!
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+8I kind of enjoy the slow page loads. The anticipation of porn is as enjoyable as the porn itself.
- kedohmen, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7"If you want to watch a dog ride a skateboard you will be against net neutrality"
Careful, all the tubes will be clogged by 2010! - RobotBuddha, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7Won't we have to finally get speedy home connections in the states before we can wave goodbye to it?
- doctechnical, on 11/19/2007, -1/+8Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of tapes.
- Schneckehaus, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7Multi-mode fiber is fairly limited, but you're seeing that quickly replaced with bundled-fiber cables, and soon they'll be using quantum alignments that multiply their speed massively. Bandwidth will rapidly free up, and the real limitations will be the processing speeds of computers.
All we are waiting on is the hardware to process it quickly, which is making leaps and bounds in the new technology fields right now. Especially considering that modern fiber doesn't use single photon bits, which would dramatically speed things up. - eatsleepbreathe, on 11/19/2007, -0/+7yes, quite. If we cant structure the info right then how are we going to look after the infra???
- inajeep, on 11/19/2007, -0/+6Fast? Compared to dial up maybe but not the rest of the countries who are wired.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -0/+6They said the exact same thing in the 90's. Except they were talking about flash and shockwave, not videos.
It's like saying we need to build more factories now because there will be more consumers in 10 years. - theone3, on 11/19/2007, -1/+7/pretentious tagging thing
- polyGone, on 11/19/2007, -0/+6Please, keep us up to date.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/19/2007, -0/+6As Scheneckehous is saying; The technology of communications is keeping well ahead of our ability to use it up.
- eatsleepbreathe, on 11/19/2007, -0/+6thank goodness for that!
- nekochan, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5/being a dick
- inertic, on 11/19/2007, -2/+7As much as I want to get Verizon FIOS, I seriously hope they get some competition b/c I wouldn't want one company to have a monopoly on fiber optic.
- Roblodocus, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5"There's no such thing as Bandwidth. I know cus i sell it."
If it doesn't exist how the hell do you sell it? - missingnoh4x, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5Hey Comcast, you think you could spend at least a nickel or two on upgrading infrastructure rather than sitting on all that profit and bribes from the RIAA?
- dargon, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the writer, David Lieberman, is in the pocket of one or more of the anti net-neutrality groups out there. The whole article just sounds like a big, "we need to prioritize certain traffic types or the whole thing is going to fail" type of speech.
- Parastie, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5That's funny...he's alive over here.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4Most of the oil is coming from an era where we had a LOT more plant growth. We are increasing our usage faster than it is being replenished.... so I'm guessing this is just missing the /sarcasm tag.
I agree with your second point. - daridave, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4Indeed. Bell Canada invested an insane sum, I heard something around one billion, to put fiber all over the network (here in Montreal, and all around it in Quebec). We're not up to 20mbit/sec and it's looking like we're going up, not down...no digg.
-
Show 51 - 100 of 186 discussions
Digg is coming to a city (and computer) near you! Check out all the details on our 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is