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- NerdENerd, on 11/10/2009, -0/+84DRM only inconveniences to legitimate users and doesn't affect piracy rates in the slightest.
- nickpowers101, on 11/10/2009, -0/+74These movie industry execs are INSANE. They just don't understand consumers. Everything is an intellectual property these days. I don't think they understand the meaning of fair-use. If some of these guys had there way, I could possible end up in jail for humming a tune from a motion picture soundtrack. Nuts.
- jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -1/+62Pro-tip to Blu-ray Consortium: DRM is a waste of time.
- davdev, on 11/10/2009, -2/+62Or I could just get AnyDVD and EAC3TO, or any number of other pieces of software, and not have to worry about managed copy
- dvsbastard, on 11/10/2009, -5/+55I buried you because I also hate digg whoring...
- NeoTechni, on 11/10/2009, -1/+30Remember, these guys don't even buy their own stuff.
- designbydave, on 11/10/2009, -41/+69Digg me up if you hate DRM, full page background ads and Nickelback
- 3nder99, on 11/10/2009, -1/+23I spent so much time banging my head against the wall getting blu ray to work on my htpc. It is such *****, then I have to go buy an upgraded version of powerdvd to get ***** surround sound.
I now tell people that switching to blu ray simply isn't worth the ***** they will have to deal with. Every couple months you will have to update ***** because they came out with some new DRM that will be broken and pirated within a week, but which keeps the legal users constantly having to ***** with ***** to get it working.
Is it too much to ask to just pop the ***** disk in and have it ***** play? - PhillAholic, on 11/10/2009, -0/+18I'd rather have to listen to Nickeback while browsing sites with full page backgrounds instead of dealing with DRM again. And Those three are still things I hate.
- 3nder99, on 11/10/2009, -0/+17In the UK they actually issued an order for a woman to stop singing copyrighted songs in her workplace where people could hear it. That eventually got overturned, but only after it was publicized. She had to sing to keep herself occupied because they weren't allowed to play the radio in the store.
- PhillAholic, on 11/10/2009, -0/+15It's very clear that people making these decisions don't actually use any of this stuff, or understand anything besides people not paying and watching their content. Why not set up an itunes like service where you can buy a license to a movie. After that you can download it, get it sent to you on DVD or bluray e.t.c. If you break your DVD or bluray, send it back get a new one. Sure you could just share copies of it, but most people will pay for a service they think is worth it. The average person isn't going to deal with illegal downloading if a fair and balanced method is available.
- stockjones, on 11/10/2009, -0/+11Welcome to the age of corporate piracy paranoia.
- Kanten, on 11/10/2009, -0/+10We weren't there yet with DRM?
- dagamer34, on 11/10/2009, -1/+10It doesn't make any sense to burn a Blu-ray disc for a movie, the media costs too much. If anything, "managed copy" is supposed to allow you to create a carousel of movies that you can just store on your hard drive and play movies, kinda like My Movies 3 + AnyDVD HD... oh wait.
Hollywood, you're several years late compared to your competition AGAIN! - Jaryd2006, on 11/10/2009, -0/+9You have to update blu ray players? wtf? I didnt know that.
Wtf kind of crap is that? - NeoTechni, on 11/10/2009, -6/+14That's where firmware updates come in.
Especially PS3. - chewy5000, on 11/10/2009, -0/+8I still can't get over the fact they make region locked DVD's / Players. Its one thing to prevent people copying data etc. but its another to prevent them accessing it in the first place. WTF IS UP WITH THAT???
- 3nder99, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7Blu ray players require updates when the DRM changes, and the firmware on my blu ray drive has been updated twice so far to get new titles to work. Blu Ray simply isn't worth it. I mean its nice and all on my 52 inch Sony Bravia at 1080, but it wasn't worth the added costs and hassle compared to regular old DVD's. At least with those, after a long day at work and dinner, me and my girl can sit down and watch a movie without have to spend 15 minutes finding a random firmware update and download a PowerDVD update on top of it.
So not worth the $150 for the drive and $90 to upgrade to surround sound. The ***** software that came with the drive only allows stereo sound, and there are no free players.... So not only are they getting paid by the blu ray drive manufacturer for the bundled software, they are making me buy it all over again to get surround sound which I could get off of my ***** DVD player. - grumpyrain, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7So you admit you were humming eh !?! Prepare to be subpoenaed sucker.
- Ragecloak, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7right, so instead of releasing them all at the same time, they'd rather punish consumers and force them to pirate if they want to be rid of the ridiculous restrictions
- ohreilly, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6The PPL seems to be on a bent to get businesses to pay up because they happen to have one radio with speakers.
Why should they? The radio station has paid the PPL and the MCPS and whoever to broadcast music, why should a business pay just because they have a piece of equipment that converts electromagnetic waves into sound?
If you gave every employee a personal stereo, though, no problem there apparently. I'm not someone who sides with the pirates immediately when you see stories about them on Digg, but I do see that as idiotic. - Barackalypse, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6Bluray has had fully functional copy features since its DRM was broken back at the beginning of 2007.
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6The same reason they go to the movies instead of torrenting them now?
The content companies (music and video) need to realize that the time when they got to dictate who got to view/listen to what is over. Once you release something, it'll be available, either from you or someone else. - Atario, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6Even whores gotta eat.
- equanimist, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5My wish is that I could download commercial-free *individual episodes* and movies in a playlist-friendly format (e.g., .mkv) in either 720P or 1080P with soft subs. I would totally pay 99 cents per episode of a TV show (only 49 cents for 15 minute shows). I'd pay as much as five bucks a movie. I think a lot more work goes into them.
Until I can buy video like that, the entertainment industry can eat a dick because I'm as sick as can be with these greedy jackasses. - unrealmp3, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5A.K.A. AnyDVD HD
- MacBandit, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5Well any drive should be able to RIP a disc since it's just a matter of reading it. Burning I don't think is actually part of the supported backup methodology that is part of Managed Copy. I think you will only be able to transfer the video digitally to supported devices which in most cases will require a transcode. My bet is you'll be able to use it on your computer and supported media players which hopefully (and I've heard rumors pointing to) will include the PSP.
- TimmyOToole, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5DOWN WITH THIS SORTA THING !
- DarkShroud, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5It has to do with the releases of movies. Movies are released in theaters at different times around the world. Why would someone bother to go to the movies if they can just import the DVD from elsewhere.
- my2centsonthis, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4Only the people making DRM (and money off it) trying to convince other companies say "DRM IS INVINCIBLE!" (cue shot of Boris getting frozen, hands triumphantly in the air. Slughead!)
DRM has to work to the extent where a casual user cannot easily make a copy and pirates are hampered.
Blu-Ray succeeded on one front: Unlike the Content Scrambling System, there's no easy way to crack AACS, so unauthorized software is still not easy.
Pirates are finding Blu-Ray DRM trivial to bypass.
However, until the disk prices come down, the piracy will probably remain pretty low among non-techies. - Zippo, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4There's already a great system for getting copies of Blu-Ray discs... it's called AnyDVD.
- CrimsonBlur, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4If you can use managed copy to back up the disc to a HDD then that would be great, but honestly these discs are huge. For a lot of people it would make more sense just to burn it onto a backup disc, which means they would need to buy a player that supports that.
- lens42, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4The train has already left the station. The MPAA can either try (and fail) to make everyone a criminal, or figure out a way to make money giving people what they want. This is a fact that no amount of lawyering can change. They may as well try to put DRM on gravity.
- MWeather, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3"Sony & the Blu-Ray association really screwed up all of the features. Constant firmware updates to play new disks,"
That was intentional. - shawnfromnh, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Seems to me that instead of a camcorder the pirates that are really professional would play in on a very high quality Plasma or LCD tv with the best surround sound. They would not use a camcorder though. I imagine a studio quality audio recording setup with a professional camera to record would give them an excellent quality copy.
The big pirate probably already had most of this type equipment beside the Home Blue Ray player just to do DVD's and with this setup there is no decoding, reformatting, or anything. The studio audio would record with top quality mics each sound from each speaker perfectly. The video would probably be almost as high quality and they could actually do this from a home in a dark sound proofed room and of course vibration proof.
Basically the room is permanently setup. Just place Disk in player and leave for an couple hours and edit non drm movie as in get rid of all the warnings etc. then add menu and burn, burn, burn.
These laws and measures will not make a real pirate even blink so they are just abusing their customers like so many here have said before. Maybe the cost of the DRM should be non deductable to the studio's since it is really ineffective in the long run.
This is just as funny as trying to stop mp3's from being passed on using P2P. I fail to see why anyone would even do that. Just take a dvd, burn a data disk and swap with friends. Unless someone writes something like pirated dvd's on the disk no one would ever get caught using this method and you don't have to sit there hours waiting for downloads, searching, or taking a chance getting a virus or even worse busted and fined thousands of dollars.
Finally screw blue ray. Don't buy it. Just keep using dvd and buying dvd's and let them know we are not playing this new format and buy all new media every few years game anymore.
PS, don't vote for the people that are pro drm in congress even if they are your party and let them know your not voting for them and why. - inactive, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4Why would you need a dvd ripper for burning?.
- javaroast, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3It's not better than nothing... it is nothing. And there is no excuse for this brain dead scheme. We might not be changing copyright law or the dcma, but the media companies aren't going to change reality either.
- Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3We need a Handbrake equivalent for ripping BluRay. The process isn't quite as easy as DVDs yet.
- onimusha115, on 11/10/2009, -3/+6I don't think its the firmware that is the issue, its the hardware itself in the current players. In order to make a copy the drive in the player would need to be able to rip or burn it I would assume. I suppose since the newest players are able to be networked it may be able to allow you to back up a file on a computer somewhere, but I would really think that if this is being endorsed by the MPAA its going to probably only allow a single copy to be made directly to a disc. I doubt they want to make it too easy for people to just rip and distribute copies of movies using thier home media player.
- Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Funny how one end of Sony develops Managed Copy, another end of Sony doesn't support it (Sony Electronics), and another end of Sony (Columbia Pictures) doesn't want it at all.
- NeoTechni, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2"bring on a DRM-free solid state format "
That costs $90 a movie... - Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2You're a poor Sony salesman.
- MerchantofPanic, on 11/10/2009, -1/+2A dvd burner without AnyDVD is like a car without wheels - unless, of course, you are comfortable with one of the free alts.
- mithrasinvictus, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Most blue-ray titles seem to be tweaked to appear more crisp, with enhanced contrast and always some near-white details. Like the makers thought that the increased resolution alone wouldn't be enough to sell it.
- eastwoodclint, on 11/10/2009, -2/+3Ditto
- shoyurx, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1It also has to do with different countries having different laws. They may not be able to release in certain countries, but still want to release it in regions that are already approved. It's the same reason why Netflix can only stream to the US.
- ducttape36, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1then youre going to hate this: http://digg.com/music/F_K_THE_RIAA_Band_Gives_Away ...
but seriosuly, i dont want ou to digg it, just listen to it. help? - Stingwolf, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1But then they couldn't sell you the same content multiple times.
- mrhaines, on 11/10/2009, -1/+1***** Optical storage!
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