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- fatfreddyscat, on 06/03/2008, -19/+88Blackberry is a tool
iPhone is a toy - sakuraz, on 06/03/2008, -15/+63iPhone was introduced as the best phone EVER.
but without being filled with apps, it's just an ipod with a call function.
out of the box, blackberry trumps iphone. - threepio, on 06/02/2008, -44/+88The Blackberry has only been out for... what... over half a decade? My my, how ever did they establish themselves so quickly?
- shoover, on 06/03/2008, -9/+41And in Canada the Blackberry is ahead of the iPhone by a factor of 1000! Amazing huh?
Oh, the iPhone hasn't been released in Canada yet? Why would that be a factor? - mal1964, on 06/03/2008, -12/+44Are you taking it personally?
- cpbrown, on 06/03/2008, -0/+20um .. they went out of stock about 2 wks ago, because a new model is expected in about a week - keep an eye on product cycles, and apple news (WWDC keynote is on the 9th) - and you wouldn't end up buying £330 of yesterday's hardware.
You're a very lucky guy ... if you still want an iPhone you'll be getting one of the 2nd generation ones. - ohplease, on 06/03/2008, -20/+35
Blackberry integrates with Exchange and other corporate email systems from BES. It has a market the iphone does not and cannot compete in.
Buried for stupidity. - priegog, on 06/03/2008, -4/+18wow. Digg amazes me. Getting dugg down for stating the obvious? Oh right. He's indirectly badmouthing the iphone. bury him!
- r3zonance, on 06/03/2008, -0/+13For every one person pissed of at not being able to get an iphone "right now", there would probably be 20 who are pissed off cos they bought an iPhone days before the new one was released.
Trust me, we've seen it time and time again on here.
You, my friend, are definitely the minority. A very shortsighted view you have too, in my opinion. - overkillingness, on 06/03/2008, -6/+19Apples and oranges... BlackBerrys are primarly corporate devices, iPhones are consumer.....
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -2/+14cool a google fanboy
- UnseenLlama, on 06/03/2008, -5/+16Yeah...until Exchange compatibility is released with the 2.0 iPhone software. Then your comment will be buried for stupidity.
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -18/+29for being on only one carrier and only out for a year I'd say the iPhone is doing pretty well. buried for inaccurate
- McShr3dd3r, on 06/03/2008, -2/+12This is a serious question...
How many times a day do iPhone users wipe their screens free of finger smudgemarks?
Pop quiz Hot Shot:
You are eating chicken wings at Hooters, and you get an important call from Publisher's Clearing House you HAVE to answer...
WHAT DO YOU DO? - chrisutley, on 06/03/2008, -4/+14Don't forget that Apple has been starving the channel over the last month or two, in preparation for the next weeks announcements. I say look at these numbers again in January to get a better readout on this. Of course in light of iPhone being less than one-year old, on a single carrier, and having just a single model in the marketplace - I'd say it's amazing how far iPhone has come in such a short time.
- WomensUnderwear, on 06/03/2008, -5/+15This is like comparing Apples to Blackberries.
- ninetimes, on 06/03/2008, -2/+11Yes, when you think about it, it's actually impressive for Apple that the iPhone is selling half as much as RIM. I mean, think about it:
1) RIM has been in the market much longer
2) RIM offers better enterprise support (at least until the iPhone 2.0 firmware comes out) and so gets less resistance from the IT department (a lot of the smartphone market has been enterprise customers)
3) With the iPhone you're essentially talking about 1 model on 1 carrier. RIM sells various models on each carrier. - jman583, on 06/03/2008, -4/+13Price?
- netburnr, on 06/03/2008, -0/+8Then look on ebay, there are a crap ton of people trying to unload them before the next revision.
- jcims, on 06/03/2008, -5/+12BlackBerrys will continue to beat the iPhone until Apple somehow makes them attractive to the business world. The iPhone is too extravagant for the average company when they can get three blackberries for the price of one, plus get GPS capability, integrated email/calendaring/contacts, QWERTY keyboard, lots of business oriented third party applications and NOT have users wasting time and burning minutes on a lush web browser.
- Morky, on 06/03/2008, -1/+8You only need an Exchange server.
- WinMacLin, on 06/03/2008, -5/+12RIM have a very nice selection of phones. The iPhone comes in really only one flavour, the iPhone. That's it. No iPhone Mini, no Cheaper model really even the difference between the 8GB and 16GB model is just that, storage density, although the 8GB model is cheaper its not by a very large amount.
I think the iPhone is more popular but there are a few reasons people aren't buyng them right now even though they do want them:
1. iPhone 2 is coming, everyone knows its coming.
2. Price and network lock-in
3. Only one model, no cheaper variations.
Soon as Apple release the iPhone 2, some more models and make the phone more widely available it will fly off the shelves. - Julik, on 06/03/2008, -2/+9The fact was that iPhone went Down whereas the Blackberry went up.
- xaxxon, on 06/03/2008, -3/+10They ARE making them attractive to businesses. The new firmware has support for standard industry email and calendaring systems - plug and go if you already have windows mobile enterprise servers.
- FlyingPhotog, on 06/03/2008, -1/+6Are people crazy for wanting a cheaper, more functional device?
- DCGUY12, on 06/03/2008, -1/+6Blackberry Curve for $75. iPhone Icon Theme, All Google Applications, Great GPS with Google Maps 3 meters accuracy. Twitter and Facebook apps as well as Weatherbug app.
Removeable Memory card. Removeable battery.
LIGHTER than the iPhone
Tactile feedback instead of pressing glass.
Blackberry FTW! - Julik, on 06/03/2008, -0/+5I am sure that is a part of it, but I think the real difference is just how many businesses use the Blackberry. That is a very large market.
- rolf, on 06/03/2008, -2/+7If Apple wants, the iPhone will finally be the convergence device people have been speaking about for years. In a few days, if the second gen iPhone has a GPS chip, there goes having to carry/buy a GPS system. With more apps, it'll become/is a full fledged PDA (Newton lovers rejoice).
I hope though, they won't be the only game in town. Anybody can slap the hardware together, but writing the software so it's seamless has been an afterthought for phone makers for years (or seemed to be). My razr was a pain in the ass to do anything with besides calls/directly_call_related -- although they could claim all sorts of features on the box.
And that's what Apple is really helped with, besides some hardware improvements like multitouch -- they upping expectations on ease of use for software in the mobile device/phone field. - MacParrot, on 06/03/2008, -3/+8And that is why you fail
If I had a nickel for every time someone said "it never will be" I could have bought Yahoo. - Kelmon, on 06/03/2008, -3/+8I'm not shocked by this news. Apple has announced that a "proper" integration with corporate systems will be released in June, and everyone knows that the 3G iPhone is also going to be released then. I think people just started playing the waiting game. It will be interesting to revisit these statistics this time next year when the 3G iPhone has been on the market for a year.
- WomensUnderwear, on 06/03/2008, -0/+5you sound like The Complicated Order Guy Who Needs his Coffee Right The F*&K Now
- tiuk, on 06/03/2008, -0/+5This is exactly what I came here to post. The target markets are vastly different. It's like saying more high end CAD workstations are sold than gaming PCs. Sure, they're both powerful computers, but they serve completely different purposes.
- carlosos, on 06/03/2008, -2/+7Every smartphone that I saw at AT&T was less than 200 after 2 year contract. Apple starts at twice the price...
I don't believe that Apple is putting a price pressure on them... - vancanucksfan, on 06/03/2008, -0/+5oh you apple apologists make me laugh. oh but but they are different,we shouldnt compare them. yes we should compare them, they are both phones. And the blackberries have been out forever,so people still buying them today means something. With all the hype the iphone received, it still cant beat the blackberry, meaning it never will. Suck it up apple zealots, you lose again, ha ha. Now go order one of your triple chocolate fudge fraps with your iphone at the starbucks around the corner like a good little apple fanboy you are.
- jman583, on 06/03/2008, -17/+22It's sales this quarter, dumb ass, not all time total.
- xelloss, on 06/03/2008, -7/+12I have been enjoying my BB Pearl through Verizon. However, I do wish I had an iPhone, but I had to choose between 0 reception with AT&T or a solid connection with Verizon in my house.
- zaqarov, on 06/03/2008, -2/+6I couldn't agree more.
iPhone's marketshare went down, BB's went up. Has nothing to do with absolute sales, all-time or not. - S1ngular1ty1, on 06/03/2008, -4/+8Maybe because they were basing their analysis on things that were CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET and not figments of imagination from Apple fan boys.
- HookmasterCH47, on 06/03/2008, -13/+17iPhone has been out less than a year, and there's only one version. BB has a bunch of different models. The fact that we're even having this conversation means that Apple has done something fairly special. Remember the iPod wasn't exactly a hit when it first came out. I say give it time and let's see what Cupertino produces. If you're BB you have to appreciate Apple as well. Look at all the new features and innovations that have come out because they are being forced to compete.
- sudowrestler, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4In order to make the iPhone attractive to business, Apple needs to make the browser worse?
- d3dm, on 06/03/2008, -0/+4Get one of those Hooters Girls over to the table to lick the sauce off my fingers?
- jbella, on 06/03/2008, -1/+5There is no such thing as "the best phone ever."
We have to ditch this one size fits all mentality. Yes, as it stands it's just an iPod with a call function (and a really good web browser). But thats pretty much what the first model was meant to be. It certainly was not aimed at the business market. And it certainly was not aimed at the low end. As time goes on we'll see more phones for more segments of the market.. remember the iPhone has been out for less than 1 year and only 1 model has been produced so far. - Julik, on 06/03/2008, -0/+3"The report found RIM grabbed 44.5% of the market for the first three months of 2008, up from 35.1% in the previous quarter."
"Apple's iPhone came in second place with 19.2% of the market in the first quarter, a drop from 26.7% the quarter before."
How is that taking 1/3? - pavanb500, on 06/03/2008, -3/+6Exactly...which actually makes RIM's sales more impressive, since they're presumably much closer to market saturation vs. the iPhone..
- relyk, on 06/03/2008, -3/+6One thing to take into consideration is in Canada, a blackberry pearl will cost you $0 up front - just need to add $15 to your bill for data They've been pushing them in the past couple of months likely to secure market share before the iphone comes out here. Right now, it's not unusual to see more blackberries in the hands of teens then business folks.
Granted, Canada is a small market but I'm sure here isn't the only place where RIM giving them away for free. - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -3/+6not really
- ivantalboys, on 06/03/2008, -1/+4The numbers are representative of only the North American market, they also show that the Blackberry gained on the previous quarter where as the IPhone lost market share. The article suggest that this is due to new models being released by RIM to target different consumers. I'm sure once the IPhone starts to offer a larger range of products at different levels then it will claw back market share but at the moment its not looking like this is Apples business plan.
- eschompthis, on 06/03/2008, -18/+21o Apple how you scare the living ***** out every competitor. Love or hate Apple they helped the long needed progression of cell phone technology and price
- ferrite, on 06/03/2008, -3/+6It may entirely have a bit to do with the fact that nobody wants to buy a soon-to-be-outdated model iPhone (with no rebate or kickback from AT&T or Apple) whereas you can now get a cheap Blackberry for $99 with a new contract on almost every other network.
- dojonz, on 06/03/2008, -7/+10Erm, is everyone forgetting that the iPhone is not yet business ready. These results mean nothing until the playing field is level.
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