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- swaxhog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I despise the things. Go into any meeting and anyone with a Blackberry is "praying at the altar" the whole time and not listening. They make people look self-important and busy.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2GOOD!! Shut this ***** down! Please!
All these stupid big wigs that have them and demand support right now! They can cram that blackberry right up their ass.
Sooner these are shut down the better for me. - carpetbomberz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I couldn't agree more with Angryviking, so many people get these things because some gadget-fanboy CEO demands one, and suddenly all his direct reports want one. It quickly becomes a status symbol, so that anyone without a Dingle-berry feels like they don't rate. Well before you know it the middle management enter into the status symbol race to the bottom, and demand that their direct reports have them. And this is where the dunderheads come in. People who don't want them, are forced to get them and forced to learn how to use them. And for what? To get email and read email and respond to email during meetings where they should be participating and not fingering their dingle-berries. Stop the madness, stop it, stop it now!
- Angryviking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Try supporting 100's of users with these stupid toys...your view would change very quickly.
Die Blackberry ! Die ! - AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the place i work is full of blackberry fan boys and people that have jobs just supporting them, ill be so happy to see the panic
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"On a separate track, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has preliminarily rejected the patents at the heart of the court case. RIM asked Spencer to consider the issues in light of the office's expected final rejections, which could come "in a matter of weeks."
Let's hope the patent office moves quickly to quash these scumbag blackmail patents. - xofc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, a friend of mine who works pretty high in the white house has 1 encrypted blackberry and 1 normal one, and *always* has it with him. Like the article said, they're pretty much the issued device for the public sector.
- vermin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NTP omg.. what a joke of a company. They are EXACTLY what is wrong with the U.S. patent system.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The U.S. patent system is just as backwards as the Iranian government. They are an axis of evil!!
- Pas3n7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Digg just because it was at 99 and bugging the crap out of me.
- kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was the victim of patent abuse, with prior art you can still find to this day on the wayback. But I can't afford to fight it. The law leans in the favor of patent holders, which would seem to dictate the importance of MULTIPLE levels of patent review. SEEM to dictate. The reality is quite different. I get the feeling sometimes that patents are reviewed during coffee breaks at the DMV.
My little patent friend has a surprise coming in a few years though, when I have an anticipated windfall and nothing I'd rather spend it on than putting him out of business with litigation. Evil creates victims. True evil, where the person doing it is fully aware of the fact that what they are doing is evil, creates vendettas. (sans the murdering part.. I value my freedom)
The patent system works well when it works and ruins people when it fails. - spudwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Shouldn't this read "CRACK-Berry Shutdown ordered, Millions of Drivers rejoice" ??
- dasbell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0NTP is bad... nnok..
- CLIFFosakaJAPAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0BlackBerry is "Juiced"
- r0bm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They've got somebody by the short hairs.
Let's hope that somebody decides to reform this patent nonsense. - kungfustickman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They should just make it all open source. You know that blackberry push email software...
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's not gonna happen. Too many government and military higher-ups use Blackberrys.
- dmoffitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Stupid NTP.... ugh.
but why is this new news / on the front page?!? - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PS I believe the patent reads:
Communication method of modulation analogue waves. - Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have patented speech. You must all pay me 2 dollars!!!
- Illidan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0NTP. SCO. What's the difference?
SCO's dying already. Hopefully NTP will follow the same path. - chazzzzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just started using a Blackberry as well. Have the Blackberry Enterprise Server hooked up to my Exchange Server as well. Have used every device on the planet, and this is the best BY FAR!
The Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) compresses all attachments, pictures, documents, etc.. before sending them to the device. When you surf the web, the BES compresses the images on the websites so that the pages load extremely fast.. if you want to zoom into a compressed image, you just tell the device and it will go back and pull the full-size image as well.
The BES also sends a notification to your phone via a special port through your phone company's network, so that the phone knows when you have new email.. so it's instantaneous, not something that has to check for new mail say every 5 minutes or so.
There is so much going on behind the scenes that makes the BB the best device on the market, it would be an absolute shame if they had to shut down. - szelij, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It really surprises me that the BlackBerry debacle hasn't forced the American community to rethink their patents issues. It stands clear that the shutdown of BB, a product which is useful would be detrimental to many aspects of society yet there is no one calling for the reform of the patent office and law..
- scbysnx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0all those speaking against the blackberry obviously haven't used one. everything they say is true the always on connection of the blackberry is so much better then any other solution that there is no other option
- Harlequn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think the President owns one. And if he uses one, you have to figure everyone in his cabinet uses one. And if they're all using them then you have to figure.... etc...
Anyway, I have heard that R.I.M. already has a workaround that they can apply to their servers that will solve this whole problem. no patches need be applied to blackberry devices. Only thing is they'd probably have to shut their servers down for who knows how many hours (days?) - loveandrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Blackberries are pretty much standard issue for utilities workers in California. I know quite a few people both private and public sector who rely on these to tell them when something is going wrong somewhere and they have to fix it immediately.
- TuxFan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe they'll reform patents so they won't be a vague as my upcoming patent. Mine is "allocating rights based on paperwork for a technological concept." I just patented the patent office.
- CraigNobbs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Funny how patents work in the US. Maybe someone should patent this, "A device used to extract oxygen from air and then infuse the oxygen molecules into another system via tube-like conduits." They're called "Lungs", and even though they existed in prior art, they were never patented, and therefore a US judge could issue an injunction for the immediate cessation of this technology. That's right, no oxygen for you!
- phobet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It really blows when some company does a "patent ambush" on another company when they have become successful with what ever product they have implemented. While I do believe in patents, today they are used to by unscrupulous companies to avoid the cost of marketing and developing their idea, and reap the benefits as if they were developing it all along. All while not carrying any of the risk of failure. It's not as if the Blackberry was some state secret that all of a sudden everyone knows about. The damn things were common knowledge, and it would seem that NTP choose a time when Blackberries became successful to enforce their patent.
- INHUMANITY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I heart my Treo. :)
- terafunker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Fine, then make BlackBerry services a regulated public utility! Great idea, eh? Suck it up.
- czack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ clickwir:
Blackberry is not the only way, you are correct that there are other options, but my company chose Blackberry as the way for upper level management to communicate with our exchange server. And you are also correct that my boss (and the other corporate heads) do think its cool (crackberry).
However, when management is in an airport, walking around the office, or wherever they may be during their business hours, the blackberry is much easier (and quicker) to just whip out of their side pouch than open their laptop, power it on, and use wireless (whichever platform cell/wifi/other you chose to use). Its the convince that is the biggest issue. It wouldn't be the end of the world for my company, but it will create problems if the service is shut off.
Oh, and by the way, they are actually used, not just to play games or f*ck off. I had a very important customer issue which required the attention of an account manager, who, while hiking in the mountains on vacation, used his blackberry to help me resolve the issue and make our customer happy. In the end, our customer is all that matters, and the blackberry is an effective tool. - tifosiv122, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I've worked for multiple companies where all the executives, cio, vp, president, ceo, etc. used them to communicate while being scattered all over the world. You'd paralyze top management for many many companies by shutting it down."
BS, most huge companies like Citicorp have had a dual solution for well over a month now just in case RIM goes under. No major company would risk a loss like that. The cost of setting up dual solutions is pennies next to the loss of their backbone overnight.
I do believe they should shut it down...justifying infringment with the good of society is complete crap. - CiXeL, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've worked for multiple companies where all the executives, cio, vp, president, ceo, etc. used them to communicate while being scattered all over the world. You'd paralyze top management for many many companies by shutting it down.
- bentwookiee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Hopefully this company will win.. take back the technology and develop something that doesn't suck with it"
dierien2001, what the heck are you talking about? All NTP wants to do is make money off of RIM by doing nothing. They have no intention of ever building/selling anything. They just want royalties. - billyocean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0RIM sez shutdown of their product would mean the terrorist have won. Microsoft and Palm partnership looking better n better. Blackberries r solid but buyin extra HW and SW for devices to talk to Exchange is getting old.
- dierien2001, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have been using Blackberry's for about 3.5 yrs now and I have used 3 different models in that time..
I can honestly say that the concept is great.. at least for messages and the free Exchange Server software is a plus!.
The hardware however is quite a disappointment.
I have had both Cingular and T-Mobile for my carriers over the past years and each of them have been of little assistance when the unit just stops working and needs to be reset for no logical reason. (even with full cell coverage)
I currently have a 7100t and it is a piece of crap.. T-Mobile has replaced it with a new one since my company complained. However they stand firm that "its not the service but actually the sub-par hardware in the unit". (an actual quote from a t-mobile rep)
I guess this is why Pizza hut was giving them away awhile back...
Basically what I'm trying to say is that my Blackberry on average has been more like a clock that I get to pay a monthly fee to carry around and less like an extension of my office that will keep me connected. I say good riddance to them!!
Hopefully this company will win.. take back the technology and develop something that doesn't suck with it - Angryviking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good riddance, blasted blackberries...
Sick of fixing those pieces of crap all day. - squeakyg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I place phone/pda device into two categories. Those geared toward entertainment and those geared toward business. The Blackberry of course i s a business device and is the best, hands down. I am sure NTP is getting corporate help through this process. It would be a different situation if there were ever other products that could take it place and do as good a job.
NTP is definitely waiting for the big payoff or they have plan B to work with another company for the big payoff if RIM goes under for some strange reason. - scbysnx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Actually you can just simply use a laptop and verizon wireless EVDO service. It's cheaper and more widely avaliable.
So having a blackberry for that situation is just "cooler". Which of course is oppinion.
So the argument that your boss can do things quicker and more efficent and ONLY a blackberry can do that ... is wrong. It may be his/her prefered way, they think they are special, but it's not the only way.
It's become too much of a cell phone type status. 5-10 years ago, having a cell phone was a status symbol. Now it's the blackberry. I say down with the crackberry, half these schmucks don't even use them. Just play games and show them off on their belts"
are you freakin serious? how ON EARTH is a laptop like a blackberry?! - elrawtic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It serves these large corporations right for depending so much on one product.
- czack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dude, I don't know a single person who has a Blackberry.
"jesusphreak posted by jesusphreak (14) at 10:12 PM 1/18/06 "
Jesusphreak, Blackberries are very prevalent in corporate societies. While unfortunately I am still a peon in the face of the corporate monster that employs me, and have not been given a blackberry yet, all the managers, account managers, and senior management do have them. Now, while my boss is in California trying to convince a new customer to use our services (we are the number once rail and intermodal logistics tracking company in the US), he can at the same time answer emails from our current customers that are demanding an immediate response. Could this be done sans blackberry? Well, possibly, but it would be much less efficient and elongate the lag time between the customers email and my boss making it to an Internet connected laptop. Even if you don't know anyone that has a blackberry, these are very important devices demanding the attention of our nations highest courts. (Which, IMO, this is one dumb ass patent infringement case by a gold digger extortionist patent holder) So, even if this case doesn't affect you directly, it will indirectly by the companies you do your consumer business with. - maisis00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Psft!!! For Pete's sake who needs a Blackberry when you can get a Treo.
...sings to cheese 70's music... I am loving my - my - my TREOOOOOOO!!! - shiftless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They can't shut down BlackBerries. They're the reason why NOBODY cared about the MTA strike. All of the rich, important people in businesses were able to telecommute with Laptops, Blackberries, etc. while everyone that worked in retail were forced to suffer days without pay to feed their families.
- mtupker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was looking at a Blackberry for the first time up close the other day at the cellular store and frankly I can't stand the deisgn.
- clickwir, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@czack
Actually you can just simply use a laptop and verizon wireless EVDO service. It's cheaper and more widely avaliable.
So having a blackberry for that situation is just "cooler". Which of course is oppinion.
So the argument that your boss can do things quicker and more efficent and ONLY a blackberry can do that ... is wrong. It may be his/her prefered way, they think they are special, but it's not the only way.
It's become too much of a cell phone type status. 5-10 years ago, having a cell phone was a status symbol. Now it's the blackberry. I say down with the crackberry, half these schmucks don't even use them. Just play games and show them off on their belts - eTron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just got one about a month ago. This would suck. :(
- test5477, on 10/12/2007, -0/+07290 user and I don't think the Govt. would allow the shutdown, like everyone has said there would be a major problem in the business world that could hurt the eceonomy and that is when the Govt. would step in.
damn NPT - teacher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah Right !!!
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