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- rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah he had a great idea, I can see the day in which we can watch what we want on demand for a fee by using the internet and bittorrent. I then think each person who seeds files for lets say a 10 to 1 ratio should be paid a small fee by the copyright holder for continuing to seed after that 10 to 1 ratio. Only of course after the person has paid to view the copyrighted material, only then would they be eligible for a small re-imbursement for sharing the bandwidth so others can pay a fee to view the same copyrighted material. Go ahead steal my idea, I just wanna watch new movies legally the day they come out while in the privacy of my own home.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just because they offer the stuff for a price doesn't mean you won't be able to get it for free ;) Let the man make a few bucks. The rest of us will continue our crusade against the **AA Mongols.
- rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0P.S. I dont just mean movies or pay per veiws like we already can watch on demand .....kinda but television shows etc.
- theavidgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0use bittorrent to download bittorrent when this happens.
if ypu know what i mean >:) - Piper7865, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Much as I'd be pissed to have to pay to use BitTorrent that guy probably does deserve some cash .
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0rewritable: "I can see the day in which we can watch what we want on demand for a fee by using the internet and bittorrent. I then think each person who seeds files for lets say a 10 to 1 ratio should be paid a small fee by the copyright holder for continuing to seed after that 10 to 1 ratio. Only of course after the person has paid to view the copyrighted material, only then would they be eligible for a small re-imbursement for sharing the bandwidth so others can pay a fee to view the same copyrighted material."
That sounds a lot like what the guys over at Peer Impact are doing: http://peerimpact.com/
Right now it's only music, but they're working on making it a platform for movie, games, etc... - CoffeeBean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wonder how this will be seen by current BitTorrent users. Are they selling out or will this improve bittorrent?
- BASK1104, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I dont see how making money off a great app = selling out. Bram deserves some cash for his creation.
- stynesteen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Let's just hope they take some of that 8.75 million and spend it on developing a decent, usable client. I hate to say it, but take a cue from apple on this one.
- ranjur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'd venture that a system like rewritable mentioned would be ideal, but the problem is, you wouldn't get everyone onboard. I think you'd have the usual squabbling over rights and whatnot, and we'd never get a unified, cheap source for all our digital content (especially TV shows). If anyone from the 'industry' is listening, the reason I download TV shows currently is because I can't get a good source of High Definition content. And no, I'm not subscribing to one of the services because for $10 extra they give you about 10 HD channels.
I'm yearning for the day everything goes to HD, so programs won't look like ass on my widescreen television. - sielk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Something people may be missing. Soon as they start to charge for the client or make money off ads, then the RIAA and other lawyer types will claim they are making money off illegal distribution and sue them like Napster and others and get them shut down.
- gizmola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This sounds like a really half baked idea. Bittorrent is not a network, it's a protocol. It's a good idea, that in actual practice doesn't tend to work all that great, but in terms of the situation where Joe Average has something great to share with others, Bittorrent is the best thing going.
The entire point of Bittorrent is *not* to have a centralized hub. Furthermore, advertising as a revenue model on the web is the fastest way to go belly up, and I thought that venture capitalists would have figured this out by now. - jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lol. "Communication purposes". If they just wanted a way to communicate, why not just build a road instead of wasting time with a wall?
- Aooogah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't mind paying for downloads through commercials in television shows and movies. I can always skip ahead in my media player anyway if they get really annoying. Music downloads, on the other hand, should have a fee since it would be simply wrong to stop for a commercial break in the middle of a song.
- hipsterelitist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0am i the only one with privacy/riaa concerns about this? i think this might be the beginning of the end (it'll take a while though, regardless).
- azuldude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"The rest of us will continue our crusade against the **AA Mongols." -- adml_shake
I'm not sure you meant for this to be funny, but it is freakin' hilarious. Instead of crusading against the Mongols, maybe we should do like the Chinese and build a big wall to keep them out:) - zforrester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You know what? This is FANTASTIC! Bram will make money, the RIAA will calm down a bit, and we will be able to download better, more reliable content. Rock and Roll! And yes, paying for crap sucks, I know (I dont think I've bought a CD in 10 years), but I definetely be willing to put up with a little advertising here and there, hell even in the middle of a movie. Can you imagine if FOX or any other TV network gets behind this? TV shows distributed via RSS+Torrents at the same time as cable or satelite?! Its the future, suckas!
- diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this is great. content needs to reach people at the fastest speed possible, and relying on individual networks to supply that content is just insanity (read as: some ISP in kentucky should not be the only source for a single file, etc). with more and more distributed networking via torrents we the people of the net should be able to retreive content as fast as we possibly can.
all thats needed now is a real streamline OS and browser. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sellouts
- borb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't think I'm alone when I say...
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! - stevey5036, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bittorrent isnt a "company".. I dont understand this article.
- Dropscience, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This better be just the BitTorrent site. Not bittornado, azeurus, and isohunt, pirate bay, torrent spy
- dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I don't think I'm alone when I say...
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"
Indeed,
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Lets just hope they do the same sorta thing as some of the podcasts are doing now, and advertising in the programs
I think selling TV/games etc online via bittorrent is a great idea (And thought of it a year+ ago, like iTunes Music Store for videos)
But they better not change how Bittorrent works now, but instead offer "legal" torrents...
I don't quite see how that will work.. You can count the secconds on a slightly mutated hand till those torrent files appear in another torrent on Pirate Bay...
Unless they make their own torrent program that you can only download the payed torrents from it, and it's.. meh, I don't know
But, the good thing is they can't really "break" the torrent system as it is justnow, and if the companys are getting money via the adverts, not people downloading it.. hmm
- Ben - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Alright lets all pay for something we can just take. I will be the first one to pay for this service!
http://www.geek2us.net
Coffee - theavidgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01 question comes to my mind....
wont programs like azureus or bitcomet etc still be free?
so how is this even gonna be possible? Cuz i know BT is not based on a central server... - TopGaler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If they charge a fee for the files, it needs to be smaller than the normal fee, otherwise it would be a rip-off. I'm a long-time Bit Torrent user and for non-commercial/creative commons content, I can justify sharing the file. Why should I help foot the bandwidth bill for a company I'm buying or licensing something from?
- marvngardn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Revrend!
- motionblur, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is totally selling out and I'd be the first one to hop on that bandwagon too!!!!!!!!!!!
- pkscout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Two things come to mind. This appears to position BitTorrent against other distribution systems like Akami (sp?). In addition, the article didn't mention another industry the BitTorrent folks will need to lobby, namely ISPs like Verizon and Time Warner. Technically, neither of them allow any servers of any kind, and that includes BitTorrent. Basically, the ISPs don't want you to use your upload pipe for anything but email and web requests. If I can't do upstream with BitTorrent, the whole system falls apart.
- thetron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It won't work. If they let people use any bittorrent client with DHT enable client, It means the non-subcribers could bypass a pay subcription system
However using their own BT client without DHT. Would snarf this - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Boo-urns... Free Bittorrent will never die... well, hopefully.
- b0b0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It better remain open-source.
- pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0BitTorrent is not going to dissapear as a free version. BT is friggin out. it is out forever. it cant be taken away. what we have now cant be changed by any laws.
- RichMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As long as you have a choice between using the free bittorrent clients we have today or using the commercial clients (with restricted use of private trackers), then I don't mind.
- JubbaG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, paid p2p isn't exactly a new concept. Peer Impact (http://www.peerimpact.com) and WeedShare (http://www.weedshare.com) are two programs that do paid p2p, the former using LX Systems (the one used to distribute America's Army) as well as giving sources a small commission fee for their bandwidth.
- Fatalis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0No, you are a dumbass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0great wall of china is not for keeping people out, dumbass, it's for communication purposes.
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