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- metalica77, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Until they get 24 and CSI on or any other major show i don't give a rat's ass. But that's my personal opinion
- marshall007, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32"Instead of paying for a download, BitTorrent ’s customers now see ads before and after watching an episode."
Ads > Paying Money - EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26You don't understand...
Bittorrent is a company that goes by the same name as the protocol it created. The protocol is going better than ever. The company itself is selling stuff via bittorrent, an action which will have zero (0) effect on other uses of it. - defaultprophet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I'd be willing to have ads at the beginning and end of a show if it's free and legal.
- androothebear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17how do you enforce someone watching an ad after a show...?
- ZogDog, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Yeah I agree about the shows they have, but you know what, I wouldn't mind watching a freakin ad for 30 seconds before my show begins. I just hate the times you HAVE to watch tv shows, downloads work better for me.
- tobikow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15goes to note that bittorrent isn't always piracy. Even without ad's ill suport a tv show as well as all forms of media, and I encourage other bittorrent users to do the same. If pirates really wanted to, they could easily avoid these ads too.
- kevin_qnn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19because the ones with the ads are legal. the ones without ads aren't free if you get sued
- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12When you download the file, a representative of the studio comes over to your house and physically holds your head and forces your eyelids open until you've watched the entire ad.
You know they'd do it if they could. - Glauck006, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6so where do i click to see ONLY the free content?
- JollyR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@ androothebear:
I know it's a little different on TV, but they can't enforce people to watch them either. I usually go do something during commercial breaks... - Blandyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The thing isn't whether we can get them for free... it's, do we want to get them for free when we can just sit through 5 minutes of ads?
The reason I hate watching TV (sometimes) is because of the times. I have to wake up for school at 6am, and by the time I get to watch whatever program is at 10pm, I'm just too tired to care, or if i pay attention, it's even worse because then I'll be extra-tired the next day.
I don't mind the advertising, though. Seeing an ad for a tampon in the middle of when Rachel will find out that it's actually Ryan's evil twin, doesn't bother me. I just don't want to have to stay up late to find out the same information, and if they can offer me a free (as in, no direct monetary cost, $0.00), ad-supported (just like the actual thing), version that allows me to watch it anytime of day... what reason do I really have not to do it?
Also, another thing... 5 minutes of advertising seems like a horrible burden in your world, but consider the extra time you'd spend downloading from a private tracker or some tracker on the internet than an official, only-one-version-of-this-file tracker? The extra time spent would probably far outweigh any godawful time with the ads. - fourcylthrill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I like the idea so much I'm trying it out.
Ohh wait, no seeds... - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7They don't need to enforce it. Most people don't actually care if they see/hear an advertisement. Some will do other things during the commercials, many will watch them.
The ad-hating, copyright-hating, give-me-everything-for-nothing demographic is actually a "minority" thankfully. - xNaquada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They use my bandwidth for uploading/distributing content,.... and I have to watch ads? 1 or the other, not BOTH. BittorrentInc should be paying ME to use MY upload bandwidth. Go back to the drawing board BTInc. Untill then its tried and faithful HDTV+HRHDTV/x264[yummm] scene releases.
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5People exactly like yourself joebob. As soon as you make a purchasing decision based on an advertisement, you become one of the hundred million suckers. Enjoy the feeling.
- manageMyRights, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Downloading TV isn't illegal. There has never been a court case involving TV shows. They've already made their money on advertising before the show ever airs and I pay a cable bill each month. Don't buy into the propaganda and use their language.
- mpdickso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree this model is much better than paying for downloaded content (something I'll probably never do). Looking at both ends, the producers and viewers, this seems to the most viable solution. For unlimited content I can watch when I what...I'll settle for a few commercials. I haven't had cable/satellite for over two years...the idea of pre-scheduled programming just didn't work with me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5If I could download the shows I download for free with the commercials in them like on TV, and it would be legal? I'd do it. Commercial breaks aren't a big issue for me, gives me a minute or two to go take a whiz or get another frosty adult beverage.
- anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Most likely they are better seeded so they download faster. Also since they come from a trusted source people could set up RSS feeds hooked up to a client and get the latest episodes automatically. That is harder with illegal torrents.
- Vision2098, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Great question.
- coheedcollapse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'd be incredibly willing to do something like this for the ability to download all the shows that I'd want to watch at any given time without the fees. As a broke college student, torrenting is really my only option when it comes to watching TV (no cable and I'm too far from the local broadcast stations). I'd love to be able to do it totally legally and I definitely wouldn't mind a few commercials in the mix if that's the price I have to pay.
- Cabal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2they've been doing this for along time, it's called product placement.
- Takami826, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree with ftljohnson, I would rather directly pay the content creators. I skip commercials when I DVR, which is why I feel there's no problem in downloading a tv show - I would have had it commercial free via local or paid for by my monthly cable bill anyways. So ad supported is fine by me before and after a show download cuz I'd just skip it anyways.
I do my own research for whatever it is I'm looking to buy. Sure, adverts alert me to potentially interesting things, but other than letting me know something is out there, it doesn't affect my purchases. My own research and consumer reports guide my purchases more than some screaming halfwit in between acts. - fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4So what do you do when you're shopping Joe? Do you have a checklist of stuff to avoid? If you see something advertised in a window or on a billboard or whatever do you add it to your list?
Despite whatever you may think, you're the exception. Advertising works. It really works. That's why billions (probably trillions?) are spent on it every year.
I think it's great to have an ad-supported and legal way to download the content. To the people complaining about ads, you have several options:
- get it legally without ads by paying
- get it legally and free with ads
- get it illegally and suffer any consequences
It's really not a tough choice. - nigelelliott394, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i like this concept...if without the Ads it means that the bittorrent community is non-existant (of course this isn't the case and may never be) then i'm all for it, if anything it'll only help the community grow a bit and allow for better features or something amongst clients and the site.
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Oh Xplay...how i miss the good old days before you became G4 *****.
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Other than legally owning a copy with ads vs. illegally owning a copy without ads. You may think the "no ads" is the obvious answer but there will be no defence when the MPAA does a RIAA an starts suing people downloading the illegal copies.
- phaed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1p2p - DirectConnect network (DC++) is live and kicking and its bigger than all the other networks combined.
torrents - check out torrentleech.org, bitmetv.org, bitme.org, granted YOU cant get in cause its invite only but 0-day scene releases and 0-hour tv show rips with speed to max out your bandwidth abound. - jackyyll, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Because we have magical things called video editing and cropping.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it doesn't matter what the industry does. . I will always be using P2P or something like that. .. In my case the industry has lost before they started.
- frontbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They are big on Cisco as well. The only time it really bothered me was last season or maybe the season before when in the middle of the episode the CTU network was being attacked and they Cloe or someone said something like "That's not a problem or Cisco firewall has built in blah blah blah, we are safe", and that was a little too blatant that it took away from the show and made me think of the Truman show. As long as it isn't that blatant I am all for product placement, as long as it makes sense in the context of the show (like it might be weird if in some sci-fi movie there were dell logos on things that are not really dell products). That is another thing, they need to really be real products too, or that bugs me.
- phaed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1turn on your sarcasm detector ffs. btw. I wouldnt touch btjunkie or any other public torrent site if it were the last tracker on earth.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They're going to need awesome shows for me to watch ads and give up my bandwidth. Ads are lots of money and they can afford fat servers with big tubes instead of trying to use my 100kB/s DSL upstream while cashing in on me watching their crummy ads.
Ads, or I pay money. I refuse to let the greedy bastards have both because I loathe TV ads. They are so dumb they make me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon. - m1carbine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0definitely
- richejc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There is a lot of free content without ads, but the ad-supported content is here:
http://www.bittorrent.com/users/g4 - xvertigox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If they have a large amount of webseeds for every episode/torrent they release then I'll be on board but if not then there's no reason to download those episodes over illegal torrents with thousands of seeds.
- ayalrosenthal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This does make some sense as an easy way to monetize files in order to compensate copyright holder. I like it. If you want something for "free", then time should be your cost. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
- ashwinnavin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0here's the video, take it for a spin: http://www.bittorrent.com/users/g4
- kutza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Too bad BT is blocked here...
- AMERICANcitizen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0the idea of torrenting is great...but add loaded torrents will not win the war against torrents...the winner will be something resembling the Truman Show...adds built in to the show/movie
we are already seeing this to a limited degree (Jack Bauer/CTU drives Fords...well, thats about all the TV i can keep up with, but i'm sure there are more doing it)
i predict we will see much more built-in adds. - captaincoconut, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Considering bittorrent is illegal, I am suprised that ads would be placed on the site.
- Krovvy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I don't get it, I can download games such as Jade Empire or Hitman: Blood Money for "free"? This can't be right...
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -13/+11Ads > Paying money... for who?
If I want to watch something... I'm gonna download it "illegally", or buy it on DVD, or netflix it... or hell.. even watch it on a TIVO... depends on whether it deserves support.
Sorry, I just don't watch commercials anymore. I don't give a ***** about TV Networks, or any other middlemen - and If I could - I would give $ directly to the content creators... every time. - j2crux, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4totally agree with you.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5"We all prefer ads to paying money becuase we get a free show out of it.." Had to stop you there.
Is your time worth nothing? One could argue that the only thing that is worth anything at all IS one's time. - shaun1018, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Why don't they sell advertising for the corners of the screen or a side bar (hopefully something that doesn't make the video look like *****)?.
This way they don't have to worry about people skipping ads (mainly because you can't) and the more people who download the better for both advertisers and the producers. - joebob, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3"... and a product which we may be interested in buying. "
This is where the entire concept of advertising loses me. Out of the sum total of all advertisements I've ever seen I can probably count on one hand the number I have actually purchased due to the ad. Including all commercials, web ads, etc... thats probably somewhere near a 1,000,000 to 1 ratio. Is America truly full of people that run out and buy things simply because they saw it on tv? - Falldog, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Why download a video with ads for free when you can download a video without ads for free?
- Kujila, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3'Paid torrents'.... *snicker* Oxymoron.
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