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- radison2, on 02/16/2008, -1/+83I have a method of bypassing their system. I cancelled my account. So far it seems to be working perfectly.
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -2/+48This is great news, power to the people to have the freedom they deserve. I'll happily support the new encryption and I don't even use Comcast. :P
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -2/+44This was on the front page YESTERDAY
http://www.digg.com/software/BitTorrent_Developers ...
Piss off Babyman. - sgtcaboose, on 02/16/2008, -1/+21Suck it Comcast!
- albiniak, on 02/16/2008, -0/+16please call me when they go from "introducing" to "releasing."
- jmhyer51, on 02/16/2008, -1/+16There are a plethora of reasons you should do that anyway.
- zad1, on 02/16/2008, -0/+14The link and the description of the article are exactly the same. Shame on you MrBabyman
- antivibe, on 02/16/2008, -1/+15never doubted you for a moment
- akkibaba, on 02/16/2008, -5/+17Soon, encryption will run into an unsurmountable problem : Comcast will introduce hard bandwidth limits. It's sad, but that's where this situation seems to be heading.
- kman922002, on 02/16/2008, -0/+11Didn't I digg this yesterday?
- zad1, on 02/16/2008, -1/+9Buried for being duplicate
- jayathecat, on 02/16/2008, -0/+7Sadly I think all of us stuck with Rogers in Canada will still have throttled connections due to throttling of ALL encrypted traffic :(
- TheOther1, on 02/16/2008, -0/+7It's also the most effective method for getting their attention.
- Culyt, on 02/16/2008, -0/+6You need a version of bittorrent that transfers over http packets :)
- phybere, on 02/16/2008, -0/+6Don't they already? If you're paying for a 5mbit connection, your limit is 5mbit.
If you're talking about monthly bandwidth limits - yeah, I'm surprised if they don't have that yet, as many ISP's already do. - KnightMareInc, on 02/16/2008, -2/+8the sheer number of dupes that make the front page is driving me away from digg.
- modnar, on 02/16/2008, -1/+6This is why companies should keep going after BitTorrent. In the end, BitTorrent evolves and pwns them.
- zephyr42, on 02/16/2008, -3/+8The title is dumb, it's simply a PROPOSAL that will formulate into reality because they can do it it's just a matter of time. Sensationalist title to get to front page.
BitTorrent + Comcast = INSTA-SUCCESS! - Sparhawk2k, on 02/16/2008, -0/+5In some places that tends to throttle you NEARLY as much since you no longer have any Internet...
- digitalarcanum, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4some of us don't have the option to vote with our wallet, Lord knows why. If any competition ever came to my area (Detroit) they'd make a fortune. Comcast has extraordinarily ***** service in Detroit.
Perfect example was just this monday/tuesday they had contractors out in our area to fix a failed hardware issue. Suddenly my connection drops and my router indicates that there isn't a carrier signal (read: the cable light is blinking, meaning there is no media/layer 1 connection) I walk outside, sure enough a comcast contractor is out on a pole ***** around with something
Me: are you with comcast
Him: Uh. Yes I am.
Wasn't entirely sure what was going on so I drove around and found his truck. by this time I had to go to school. three hours later: still no TV or internet. We call comcast and tell them what's going on. They ***** wanted us to wait until thursday to get back online. we told them no. they said they'd call us back in an hour with the supervisor on the phone. No phonecall.
We call back. they say they'll have someone out between 2 and 5pm the next day. they show up right after 5pm that day to fix their *****.
Honestly if it takes that much ***** effort to fix a simple cable connection issue that resulted because of THEIR blunders, any ISP with half a brain and decent customer service could swoop in and get customers in droves.
Honestly, when I get out of school, I'm thinking of buying a fractional T1 and skipping this ***** altogether. - andycr512, on 02/16/2008, -0/+4Yeah, they already do. http://digg.com/tech_news/Comcast_Unlimited_Servic ...
- SiegeX, on 02/17/2008, -0/+3I just finished reading the actual proposal at http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0008.html . It appears to me that this 'Peer List Obfuscation' is still beatable by Layer-7 packet inspection hardware. Since the pre-shared key is a known value made up by the info_hash of the torrent, a 'smart firewall' could sense a client connection to a tracker, say by inspecting the packet payload for '.torrent' files, and could then snoop in on the resulting traffic to replicate the key calculation. Once the key is calculated, the peer list is now in plain text and RST's can be sent as normal. Yes this would be a much more expensive (both CPU, memory and monetary wise) operation to do than what Comcast currently does, but as long as the cost of hardware to successfully send RST packets is cheaper than the cost to expand their network to accommodate terabytes of BT traffic/day on their network, it *will* be implemented. The cat and mouse game will continue.
- npsken, on 02/16/2008, -1/+4I'm pretty sure they already have a limit of 600gB per month.
- nicatron21, on 02/16/2008, -2/+5Finally, I can download the Ubuntu 7.10 Live DVD...... And a whole lot of other stuff.....
- stickyboot, on 02/16/2008, -6/+9This only means that comcast will probably lock down their connections even more. This is only good as a short term solution and will likely make things even worse.
- skyzophrenyk, on 02/16/2008, -0/+3It's 200GB if you live on a node with a lot of heavy traffic users. For those of us who live next to a bunch of old people who don't download anything, you get as much as you want :-D
- form3hide, on 02/16/2008, -0/+3I'm waiting for that opportunity to come to me, but unfortunately, my only option is Comcast or Verizon DSL. I ditched DSL about a year ago because it absolutely sucked in my area.
- kylere, on 02/16/2008, -1/+4Have to love unlimited accounts with limits.
- jayathecat, on 02/16/2008, -0/+3Does that exist? and get around throttling? very interesting...
- daihard, on 02/16/2008, -2/+4It is time for Comcast to learn a lesson. People rule, not them!
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -1/+3and worse and worse, until people wake up (finally) and realize that the internet needs to be free
- JimXugle, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2Can't Wait.
On a related note, is any other comcast customer noticing a lack of reliability in their connection? It seems that Comcast in Pittsburgh goes dark for about 6 hours every week, seemingly at random. - signorescuro, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure that I saw something on The Consumerist that it was somewhere around 200GB for most "unlimited accounts"
- mirzmaster, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2Yeah, but is this also going to bust Rogers Canada's anti-P2P technology?
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -1/+3Some of us don't pretend to have a life.
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -1/+3Surely, what with his band of loyal (mindless) followers, it would have gotten onto the front page with a few minutes of it being submitted?
- emt41, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2plethora is a great word
- franl, on 02/17/2008, -0/+2Where will these mythical SSH daemons be running? Are you saying build an SSH daemon into BT clients? I don't see this happening.
- MikeCampo, on 02/17/2008, -0/+2I really hope so. Two years ago my Roger`s Extreme connection was giving me insanely high down speeds and now I`m lucky if I can average 30 kB/s.
- YourMaster, on 02/17/2008, -0/+2Find me ANY technology that "anatomizes" me and I'll either be really happy or really sad, depending on what it's doing to my anatomy.
- jgzman, on 02/17/2008, -0/+2Dug down for intentionally mis-interpreting the word 'free.'
- skyzophrenyk, on 02/16/2008, -0/+2I never had a problem getting good speeds on Comcast. It varies by your region. If you have a great deal of heavy traffic users on your node, they have to rate limit, because they don't have enough bandwidth to go around, but if you don't, you can get excellent speeds on bittorrent.
- cliffski, on 02/17/2008, -0/+1and taking stuff from others without their permission is theft. Sorry to burst your bubble little kid
- andycr512, on 02/17/2008, -1/+2Bittorrent has nothing to do with providing Comcast service to non-subscribers; wifi access, we both agree, does. At any rate, you did not address either point I made.
- kylere, on 02/16/2008, -1/+2Not sure why you have been dugg down, it is clearly the next step for Comcast. I am willing to bet an examination of the diggs from an IP perspective would show that a Comcast PR firm is digging you down, no one not a corporate shill would believe their was anything wrong with your comment
- drdepoy, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1i assume they are just going to require that all peer and seed connections run through and SSH tunnel. Thats how I beat Comcast ATM, set up a tunnel to an SSH server and use that as a SOCKS proxy. WOrks great, but it would be nice to have that built in.
- skyzophrenyk, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1Comcast is rolling out 100 megabit Docsis 3.0 over the next 2 years; I doubt its going to be as much of a problem as you think it will.
- Rizzen, on 02/16/2008, -1/+2Like the bible!
- maddog39, on 02/16/2008, -1/+2Corporations dont have rights.... we do!
- inactive, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1Actually, you should try Shaw internet if it's available where you are. It's way better in my opinion.
And they don't throttle any traffic either... -
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