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- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -6/+67*rubs this in MPAA's face*
- Thagor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+35quote from suprnova:
This is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future.
y'arr! - samurimaster, on 10/10/2007, -4/+34Put that in your pipe and smoke it RIAA
- lesty420, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27Movie, TV and music companies should develop some kind of monthly fee where you can download as much as you want becuase they have no chance otherwise.
- Stratochief66, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18I think you misunderstand me. I mean that it should have a preference to share with people locally, but not exclusively. If the person you would have been connected to doesn't have a similar group of local people near him to share with, then he will connect to the folks nearest him. Everyone gets to share but the seeds and peers you connect with will be more logically chosen. For a small number of seeds and peers, nothing different would happen but for very large swarms, like the ones that contribute more to the packed pipes, the bandwidth burden will be more local.
- meepus, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19It's theoretically possible, but also kinda mean. Why would it be in the interests of sharing to be picky about who you share with? That's a contradictory concept, as sharing fundamentally is about making something freely available. Kindergarten 101 pops. Besides, people won't adopt a new client unless it's better than the one they were using before, and nobody interested in making an anti-sharing filesharing client is likely to do sharing better than someone with sharing in mind. slash-mouthful.
- Stratochief66, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18In the age of massive file sharing, isn't it in the best interests of bittorent to be more picky about who you file share with? I don't mean to protect you from the MPAA, RIAA or government, but to show a strong preference for local peers. If bittorent selected the peers closest to me, wouldn't that cut down on much of the traffic problems? Is there a client that does this already or is planning to do it, I just think it shouldn't be the hardest thing to implement because IP's are connected to a region, if bittorent can tell what country someone I'm sharing is from, can it take the next step and choose my neighbors over Botswanian filesharers?
- ThreeDee912, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11What does this have to do with private trackers? Private and public trackers both create internet traffic.
- kohner86, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Keeping the traffic local places a smaller load on the network since the data will travel through fewer hops.
- MavRevMatt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9No see, idiots like Emachine think that private trackers are elite and use their own traffic source.
- felderado, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9This would be more feasible with IPV6 where the IPs will be sorted better and be organized in a much cleaner fashion. Right now with IPV4 you can have two adjacent subnets on different sides of the planet. It's awful hard to tell just by IP where someone is actually located at.
I do think this idea is kinda neat -- possibly prioritize your "local" P2P connections to cut down on the traffic across the globe... but they still should NOT neglect those that are not considered "local". It would be a tough thing to implement. - Duncan3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+850% +/- 50%... That means P2P is somewhere between none and all internet traffic. Talk about some serious error bars.
- betobeto, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That, and spam. Both make up like, uh, 90% of available internet bandwidth. Or something. Isn't technology wonderful?
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Please tell me you mean porn produced by the MPAA and NOT porn featuring the MPAA. DO NOT WANT!
- jkharris07, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4To say that "BitTorrent traffic is generating somewhere between 25% and 65% of all Internet traffic" is a huge general ballpark estimate. Stats like that should be taken lightly without any sources.
- Kyrgizion, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hahah, and the rest is porn...
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I think many clients automatically pick the "fastest" peers from the swarm, which are typically those who are closer to you.
- nexus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4except my cash says otherwise. Im not paying you to pick and choose what i do with my bandwith, you know that same bandwith you allot to me for a given price.
- acidbass, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah, most bt apps have you peer with peers with low ping times....usually they are the ones closest to you. This problem is trivial and has already been solved.
- fusama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Except a large number of users live in areas with only 1 broadband provider. Even those that have some choice usually only have a small number of choices.
- blup3ace, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3isn't all internet traffic file transferring?
therefore isn't all internet traffic file sharing? - HydrogenOxide, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2....Has anyone sent this to NBC?
- sl123000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Exactly.
- Stratochief66, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Exactly, kohner86. There is a big difference between sending that 100mb across your city vs sending it to singapore from north dakota. The problem large ISP's have with bittorent is that it 'clogs the pipes' largely due this geographic indifference. Local traffic is dirt cheap to an ISP while it costs them money to transfer data in and out of their district.
- cplkai, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The other 60% is porn.
- Stratochief66, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Right, just like shutting down napster killed the sharing of music, or the death of kazza stops me from downloading tv and movies. There is no way to block p2p traffic permanently as people will always work to find a way around it.
- SteveMax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, you need no downloads to see porn featuring the MPAA. You see it ***** many people every day on the news.
- mexicanman07, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no the majority of the file sharing is porn
- crapmatic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Judging by the comments here, it's mostly MPAA porn flicks.
- CYR1X, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2They might be able to block the default way to use P2P but they will never ever completely stop it.
- mgithens, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'd say that 50% of it is people updating their WoW installs... about 2gb per install of just updates, a few million users and voila... (for those uninformed, Blizzard is using user's bandwidth to supply the gigs of updates to new installers)
- j0keR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I believe utorrent 1.7 was the first torrent client to behave like this. Many trackers have banned utorrent from 1.7 up for various reasons, but you'll notice that going from 1.6 to 1.7 will greatly increase the speeds of your torrents from public trackers.
- Disfnord, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is a local shop, for local people!
- Giga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Buried for being overly excited by the word "dominate".
- mikeazorin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1If Bittorrent is responsible for 40% internet traffic, and 50% of P2P traffic, wouldn't that mean the net P2P traffic is 80%? I don't believe that.
- JBrozetti, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0These studies which say that BitTorrents use up between 25-60% of all Internet traffic is amazing. This just shows that no matter how business try, people still would rather connect with EACH OTHER. In order to combat the power of BitTorrents, companies need to come up with innovative business models to make their services better than those offered by BitTorrents, otherwise they will always ultimately lose.
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Yup. That's what the EFF supports, by the way. Something similar to what BMI/ASCAP do now.
- spamzor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1no, of that 40%, 50% is from bittorrents IE. 20%
- Dasmitch, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0there's always DSL, or hell, be an entrepreneur and start your own isp providing unfiltered traffic.
- BayAreaKing, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I agree
- kakwakas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Uh... Napster?
- Giga, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0You could argue that with dynamic sites using php, you aren't downloading a file. You are downloading text output from an executed script which is not stored as a file on any file system... similar argument applies to webcam streams et al.
- vonskippy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3It's all fun and games until most of the ISP's block P2P traffic. Why, because they can (and it's almost a sure bet with the numbers discussed in this article).
- mozartpena, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0p2p filesharing rules.
i agree ... y'ar! - spudnic, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1too late for an edit, but to clarify what I'm asking, if 100 people are sharing downloading a 1mB file 100mB has to be transfered, who connects to whom doesn't change how much traffic there is
- BulletsforRingo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1How do ya like them apples?!
- aceman87, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Bittorrent FTW
- harvardjanitor7, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1... this is stupid how did they come up with those statistics
- spudnic, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1Why do you want it to be local?
- katherynne, on 10/10/2007, -5/+0Dugg for use of "dominate" in title.
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