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- Mabeshark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2BitLord should be banned, it's an exact rip-off of BitComet, and the only differences are ads and other bs-crap. From my understanding, BitLord was compiled from the stolen source code of an old BitComet version, and just has a few things changed. Since the core and interface were ripped off, you can't expect many new updates or feature additions. If you're going to use BitLord, just get BitComet, there are improvements and bug fixes in BitComet, and BitLord does'nt even support DHT!
I don't understand why someone would want to use a rip-off client that was stolen from BitComet's source code. - MellerTime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not bad. It could use a chart to sum up comparisons, but it's got some good points.
Oh, and it's totally unreadable unless you go to the print view: http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/templates/print_template.htmlt?meta=/webmonkey/06/05/index2a_meta.html - RomieZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually, when you spell utorrent right (µTorrent) it wins against Azureus in google fight.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Azureus&word2=%B5Torrent - DarkEnder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Everyone but you, it seems.
uTorrent all the way. - Quantic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Im a BitComet man. I tried uTorrent once and was that impressed and Im quite used to BitComet already.
- siggyfawn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1utorrent is simply the best.
you can run it while gaming, working, voip, whatever.
I can notice a different when gaming with Azureus running. I'd have to constantly shut it down. As most Java apps, it's a mess.
utorrent is tiny, small memory footprint, low cpu usage, great performance. i love the new rss features. super fast development cycle. trust me if you're using Azureus and have not tried utorrent, go try now. you won't go back. - tarun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1uTorrent 4 Life :)
- randomjohn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1stfu you moron. there's nothing illegal about p2p, it's just when you use p2p for getting copyrighted content. there's plenty of good legal content distributed over p2p, including many linux distros
- CaptSnuffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1µtorrent is the best
- darkvad0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1BitComet is the only torrent client who doesn't give me the infamous NAT error, would anyone know why? uTorrent is great but it only worked like 2 times before it started givineg me the fking NAT error (using the same port BitComet is using)
- HightechLowlife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Unfamiliar with utorrent. Bitcomet is great though I like having a list of 20+ sites built in to search. But from all the talk here I may have to check out utorrent when I get home.
- snugsoho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree but it does seem to have serious flaws such as it refuses to seed back to the tracker and once the download is complete it disconnects from the tracker - essentially hitting and running.
- compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lame becuase it talks about 5-6 good linux clients and names one. I'm looking for a gui alternative to azureus on linux...
- wyoung, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I found it interesting that one of the disadvantages listed for utorrent was the UPnP, but for the other clients it was listed as an advantage.
After I saw that, I pretty much gave up on the rest of the article because of that imbalanced feature reporting. Having a matrix comparison would be nice. - Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, I've been reading up on uTorrent, and I'm a bit more impressed than before.
It seems that while it uses the mainline DHT network, it DOES use it like Azureus does, as a suplement. And it DOES support peer exchange (PEX), just only with oher uTorrent clients.
From what I understand, they intend to support Azureus peers for PEX in the future. That satisfies that complaint.
The other complaint is the mainline-vs-azureus DHT issue. Azureus has a much larger install base, so it naturally has a MUCH larger DHT (number of users). Apparently, according to the uTorrent forum mods, Azureus's implementation is also better. Now, word has it that uTorrent might one day support the Azureus DHT too, but they don't seem committed.
If the PEX thing is true, and they intend to add support for Azureus PEX, then that complaint is dealt with. My remaining complaint about DHT is reduced, since uTorrent DOES use it to supplement, but the complaint is still present because it has a smaller DHT network than Azureus.
I do intend to give uTorrent a try and see how it compares to Azureus in action. - userundefine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All these comparisons are quite useless when they don't take into account BitVomit's hostile activity towards other clients and trackers.
I'd like to see someone write THAT article. - number8888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I like the clients that has a single interface for all the tasks. I tried Azereus for a while but even with 1GB of ram the client slows to a claw. Bitcomet on the other hand takes little resources and it is damn fast. Takes a while though to get the high DL speeds. However after reading so much good stuff about uTorrent I guess I have to try that.
- Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In reality, a REAL shootout is brewing between the clients as their featureset grows more and more diverse. They've all got different incompatible DHTs and other peer-location methods, and they all support different proposed BitTorrent extensions.
Personally I'm still using Azureus because of the effectiveness of it's DHT and PeerExchange. That's the main think keeping me from switching to uTorrent. uTorrent uses the mainline DHT, which is essentially useless (It only kicks in for trackerless torrents). Azureus uses it's DHT whenever a tracker doesn't respond. This helps immensely with most trackers, since most trackers that I see seem to have poor availability.
So, if uTorrent implemented Azureus DHT (and connected to the Azureus DHT network) and peer-exchange, I'd give it a fair try. The lower resource usage is extremely attractive, but the lack of a (usable) DHT is a dealbreaker. - klinean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone use Sharaza?? I've used them for at least 2 years now, and I've always had good results.
- waynebob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1like utorrent for its small footprint, but still using bitcomet and not having too much trouble connecting to trackers.
- joincamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I would like for a few Azureus users to explain in what way they use Azureus that they cannot use utorrent. The only thing I liked about Azureus before was one plugin, Safepeer, but then I discovered Peerguardian. Safepeer caused Azureus to load like a butt, and only handles BT traffic, while peerguardian is lightweight and quick, and handles all traffic. Apparently the DHT is better in Azureus, but that does not really affect me afaik, although I would like somone to explain a situation where it is more useful. Are there any plugins which really make Azureus that much better? The only other useful plugin I saw on their list was one that sorted files into different directories, but utorrent does that out of the box. I guess if you really want a text message sent to your phone when something finishes, or other inane things like that, Azureus is for you, but what real features does it win on for you?
- massa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0No digg -- forgot MLDonkey
- Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0massa: MLDonkey isn't a BitTorrent client. There is no reason to include it in a roundup of BitTorrent clients. I mean, seriously, are you blind?
- boscorelle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0uTorrent -- blocks bad ip's too
and is hands down the best client out right now - G0dzzilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you only use Wind0ze, then uTorrent is for you.
But you have something more in your head, Azureus will blow your mind.
Features that run in background helps you download your files faster.
Azureus is not only a bit torrent client, it's more than that. - Shinku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0utorrent is the best client I've ever tried. I carry it around on my flashdrive keychain :)
- Guspaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0joincamp: I'm going to give µTorrent a shot, but I actually do care about the DHT. Rumour has it that Azureus is going to switch over to the mainline DHT, though, so this may not be an issue.
SafePeer is another thing. I don't want to use PeerGuardian, as it causes a lot of issues with other software, and it is a kernel-level blocker (Very dangerous if something goes wrong). SafePeer only interferes with one program, Azureus, and I like it for that. µTorrent actually supports the IP filtering aspect (SafePeer doesn't block IPs, it just gets lists of IPs for Azureus to block using Azureus's normal IP filtering), so an external application that does the same thing as SafePeer is possible (Get the IP lists and update the µTorrent IP filter lists).
The IP blocker should not cause any performance issues, because even if there are millions of IPs to block. For one thing, using a hash table means you don't need to search through the list at all. For another, if the IPs are sorted, you CAN search through them very quickly. A weighted binary tree search (Weighted in that due to the large number of IPs, you wouldn't divide in half, but would choose segment sizes based on how close the current IP was to the desired IP).
For now, I'm hoping that Azureus and µTorrent use the same file format for the IP list, so that I can grab the SafePeer list from Azureus and use it with µTorrent. - randallb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Azureus may be a bloated Java program, but the wealth of plugins for it is great. Especially the SafePeer plugin, which blocks suspicious IPs (including ones related to the RIAA and MPAA).
Plus it's multi-platform. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I like Azureus' extra features and plugin capability.
- thejam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0my vote is for uTorrent
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"never found what was great about uTorrent other than the size"
Have you tried uTorrent? It's incredible...All the features of BitComet/Azureus. And I get incredible speeds with it, you just have to tweak it... - dbr_onix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I tried uTorrent.. I found a torrent, set it to use the port I forwarded for Azereus. I started downloading, the DHT had all of 125 peers.. The torrent was going to take about a day..
Opened the same torrent in azereus, with uTorrent taking the DHT port opening (So it was using normal tracker), it was going to take a few hours.. With the DHT, Azereus completed the torrent in an hour or so..
I want to use uTorrent (less resource usage, for what it's worth), but it's slower, so no..
I might try a few other clients..
As for the article
"Coolest feature: µTorrent gives you charts that show which pieces of a torrent you've already downloaded and which ones are on their way to you right now." Err, don't most clients do that?
"Coolest features: Has a built-in yellow status light that indicates whether or not you're behind a firewall.".. again
Anyway, I think I'm going to try BitComet again (First client I ever used, aww etc)..
Anyway², the article isn't that brillian/original/usefull/accruate etc..
- Ben - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Azureus is an awesome client with great plugins, but yesterday I tried utorrent and I'm never going back. That half second load time impressed the pants off me. Literally. You don't want to know.
- Veredus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hate this phrase in any review: "It really comes down to what you want in a client and what kind of hardware you run." What's the point of a comparo/shootout when you don't choose a winner? In a real shoot-out, someone dies!
I'm not much into torrents. I've never heard of the uTorrent client. I think I have ABC installed. - schurkenstadt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0utorrent does about 98% percent the stuff azureus does with only 2% the resources.
- bigpeeler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There's no contest. uTorrent wins.
- frickindeal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Because µTorrent is so light, it encourages me to leave the client loaded and seed the torrents I just downloaded. It's so light it doesn't interfere with anything else I might be tempted to shut off other clients to do: surf, play a game, etc. It uses less than 6MB. That alone keeps me using µTorrent.
And it's damn fast, clean and again, light. Definitely a top USB drive app.
This article, though, doesn't really tell you much in terms of choosing a client. There's no real wrapup, although he does say that he when on PC he uses µTorrent. Therefore, dugg. He's helping spread the word. - n3xu5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0bitspirit
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is there any way I can switch my currently downloading torrents from Azureus to my newly installed uTorrent?
- csansbury, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My fave was utorrent...but it kept causing my pc to BSOD. Never found out why, but went beck to Azureus with no further probs.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i used azureus for about a year, and always loved it, but hated how it hogged resources.
a couple weeks ago i made the switch to utorrent and i absolutely LOVE it!! mimics most of azureus' features but in a super-responsive, remarkably efficient package. just great. - captainnico, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow, this guy thinks that bittornado isn't for linux/unix or mac. Even though they offer the source code for you to compile on *nix or mac. I'm guessing he's a windows user. I like bittornado because it's light and it scrambles the data feed so my isp will have trouble assembling the data to see what I'm downloading.
- lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was stuck on azureus for a long time. µTorrent changed my mind in just a few hours. Almost as fast, and you don't even notice the small amount of resources it takes up, even on my laptop which only has 256mb of ram.
- MoneyFist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0This artical would of been allot better comming from someone who dosen't keep pissing and whining about Mac this Mac that!
Get the fuk over it! No one uses Mac! - DrunkNomad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For Mac OS?
I recommend Acquisition. Simple and attractive layout, relatively small footprint, syncs with iTunes, and you get the best of both worlds; p2p file sharing thru major networks (shareeza, limewire, etc) and a surprisingly stable torrent client.
Check out http://www.acquisitionx.com/ for more info - MonkeyFit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I tried µTorrent when i reinstalled windows and decided to try something other than Azureus. I had never checked the mem usage on Azureus but I liked how quickly µTorrent loaded. I told my friend it seemed like a pretty cool little client and asked him what Azureus was using in terms of memory. He told me it was only using 2MB while µTorrent was using 10MB on my machine. Then I asked him to check what java was using since Azureus was the only java app he had running. He said Java was using 74MB of memory. That pretty well sealed it. The only thing I miss about Azureus was the swarm. But that was only mildly entertaining and I like µTorrent since I only needed a basic client with a nice GUI.
- snapcase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Yes, Azureus has bazillions of features and support for plug-ins, but the trade off is that the application hogs system resources and screen real estate."
Screen real estate? What the hell is this guy smoking? It minimizes to the system tray and takes up the same amount of screen space as utorrent when it isn't. I've been using Azureus for a long time, and I've never had any problems with it. I have no problems with it hogging resources. I've tried utorrent, and I have the latest version on my computer, but I don't like it as much as Azureus.
The person writing this article, like just about every other article comparing bittorrent clients, is giving a biased opinion. Stop digging so-called "comparison" articles that are just some dumbasses opinion. - RADicalSatDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I occasionally monitor client stats via Azureus, and majority of the clients I see are using Azureus and BitComet, to be honest it does tip in Azureus' favor at times.
Its great to see people can use whatever client suits them. Unlike the DUMB browser environment. I never had a prob with Azureus. - MonkeyFit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ weesee
The bittorrent program itself is completely legal. In fact, it is a very efficient method of distributing large files such as free linux distributions. You just have to make sure you don't use it to download anything illegally. The difference between Bittorrent and other P2P is that someone has to actively create a torrent to share a file and you must actively download the torrent to download the file. The legality lies with the user. The program itself is 100% legit. - kewldude606, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"When you're transferring data at rates of 1MB per second (which is totally possible with BitTorrent), your hard disk is going to have problems keeping up. Most drives simply can't write that fast, and drives that can are put under stress while doing so. " from the article...I would take whatever this guy says with a grain of salt.
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