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- wiifm69, on 10/10/2007, -5/+172that better be some quality hentai for $3500.
- TheRealToma, on 10/10/2007, -3/+137Isnt that extortion?
- kindrobot, on 10/10/2007, -5/+102A single drop of water just appeared to the right of about 3 million anime fan's faces.
- enivid, on 10/10/2007, -4/+85That's a lot of tentacles...
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -6/+86You know what I'd say to a letter like that? "Hello garbage" *toss*
- ezstan, on 10/10/2007, -7/+58Sorry, an IP proves nothing and a letter like that is called EXTORTION.
- AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -4/+54I wonder how they value the anime at $3500. At most, the RIAA and this company and any other should only be allowed to require payment equal to buying it legitimately in the lowest-priced format.
- kazamx, on 10/10/2007, -2/+49Turn up and ask them to please prove that it was you that downloaded the content. They only have your IP address which doesn't prove *****.
- Yang1205, on 10/10/2007, -7/+43...and then you'll get another letter. Which will be your court date
- dericko, on 11/01/2007, -1/+32I don't know about you.. but I typically don't greet my garbage.
- kpwells, on 10/10/2007, -0/+28[pan across still image]
- AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29When you either pay them or have to pay attorneys to represent you, then yes, it becomes extortion. Many innocent people would likely pay because an attorney would cost more.
- rulezgetbent, on 10/10/2007, -6/+32"In 2007 a decision was made in the company to start targeting people who share their material via BitTorrent after they claimed their sales had dropped 60-70 percent in just 2 years."
Maybe this is because these anime shows are cheap, lame, and are played on adult swim, and really have little to no adult appeal. - inspecality, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26or they're just greedy
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -9/+33This ***** always cracks me up. If these pirates were a little smarter they would know that this company has no proof even if their ISP narced them out. "I have a wireless network, prove I downloaded it." My IP does not exactly show proof.
- remccain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21hm.
1. rent post office box
2. *send out fake RIAA / MPAA letters
3. get rich.
There. I solved #2 - Virak, on 10/10/2007, -6/+24This is disgusting and a horrible affront to anime fans everywh--oh, they're suing over Bleach? Never mind then.
- Alnora, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21What you get for watching Bleach.
- remccain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Should I forward you the letter when it arrives in my mailbox?
- deadbaby, on 10/10/2007, -9/+24They're probably factoring in how many times you share the file to others.
- remccain, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Dug back up and a tentacle shoved in your bum ;P
- Tweekster, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Never ever respond to these letters.
never even admit you received them.
throw them out, never sign for a letter either. - Shogi, on 10/10/2007, -7/+19I think it's fairly obvious that all these anti-piracy lawsuits from Odex, RIAA, and MPAA are more concerned about collecting easy money than protecting copyrights.
- MaTT2011, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Did they also ever stop to think that the "In your face, young male lead, discovering his inner power and becoming magically stronger and stronger on and on into infinity" formula might just be the lamest thing ever concocted?
- TrevorBradley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Actually, the problem could be solved right here... If enough MPAA junk mails were actually sent out, who would ever take a real one seriously? It would be the new Nigerian spam.
- Salgat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13In all fairness, the punishment has to be more than the original cost of the item, otherwise there is absolutely no deterrent for stealing music(even if selling music is wrong) and videos, since it would mean you would only have to pay when you got caught.
- gforce42, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18Dugg down for obvious reasons.
- CLShortFuse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10I'm going to have to say it because no one here has. They are only targetting ISPs in Singapore. Starhub and Pacific Internet are in Singapore. If you're not in Singapore, you're not affected. Also, on the list, is Fullmetal Alchemist which isn't a POS anime.
- andyrobo60, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11How do they expect them to pay anything. Whoever got the "threating letter" that they link to can't even afford a good internet connection. They have them downloading the same file on dates 07/02/2007, 19/02/2007 and 25/02/2007. If they can only afford an internet connection that takes 18days to download a file that is properly under 200MB, then how can they pay $3500.
- KingGorilla, on 11/01/2007, -1/+10You obviously don't live in Bedrock
- 1337zork, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Yes it is. If they did it to me. I would throw the letter out. And if they came to Denmark and tried to do something about, I would sue them!
Just like the RIAA and MPAA thinks that US laws works for the whole world, Odex thinks that they can do stuff like this?
***** Odex, RIAA, MPAA. - remccain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9That is obviously neither fair nor legal. The punishment must always fit the crime. Otherwise, why not just make every crime punishable by death?
- sexyflanders, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10F U ODEX! Yes I understand you may be losing money but c'mon since when has anime been popular? It doesn't rank nearly as high as box office movies people aren't clamoring for the next Haruhi Suzumiya boxsex or waiting inline for the Bleach boxset.
I'm a anime fan and I've paid for my fair share of things I spend atleast 100 or so dollars a month for anime I support it but like someone else pointed out I don't want to wait for my anime. I'm enjoy an awesome show called "School Days' thats currently running in Japan as I speak and god knows if the US will get it!
So your killing anime even more now its not like anime is the biggest thing in terms of popularity it has it's niche and I believe we do a lot for the anime community and you give us back some good and some bad quality anime. I mean sheesh we pay though the nose for ONE VOLUME of anime that typically is only 100 minutes and sometimes there are 10's of volumes. Ranma 1/2, inuyasha, Bleach all going over 10 volumes easy yet you charge us 20, 30 dollars each.
These lawsuits are pure B.S and baseless until you get names that match the IP address point blank Keep enjoying anime and support anime but I believe these companies have to get into the digital age and embrace the internet that goes for all companies, RIAA, MPAA stop being greedy ass holes who use underhanded tatics to line your pocket with cash. - DontSayFanboy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Sorry, but that doesn't really matter.
A civil case is different than a criminal case. In a criminal case, the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you are guilty. In a civil case, there is a different burden of proof. This is how, for instance, OJ Simpson was found not guilty in his criminal trial (by reasonable doubt) and didn't go to jail but lost his civil case and was ordered to pay the families a ton of money.
The fact that your wireless connection was used by someone for copyright infringement can still make you liable for their losses, just like you may be found liable if you leave a weapon out and someone uses it to commit a crime.
But $3500 is probably nearly what you'd pay in court costs anyway, so do you want to bother taking it up with a judge or ... ? - windwaker, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11why are people digging this down? he's right; you can only be punished through a civil suit.
- HaltingPoint, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Looks like the fans have spoken...just check their wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odex
Also for those concerned about what titles they might have been tracking, the wikipedia page has a title listing as well. - Osjpr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7it's impossible for them to know how many times you've shared it or the extent you've sharred it to each person.
- BrandonMills, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Are they considering subbed anime that Japan is freaking *years* ahead of the US in? What's my 'option' to buy those animes here? Should I just be a good little boy and wait forever for the anime I want to see to reach the US in a poorly-dubbed fashion?
What a load of crap. - pipedreambomb, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Should have done
- KyjL, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11You like current Bleach.
Instant bury. - TrevorBradley, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8***** anime still abounds, but extremely high quality stuff is out there to be seen.
Case in point: Naoki Urasawa's "Monster", or "Mushishi", or even "Death Note" (well, *I* don't quite rave about Death Note, but it was at least decent.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php - Elranzer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Not sure about the others but Nintendo just shuts down ROM sites, or at least forces them to remove Nintendo IP roms (Mario, Zelda, etc). Have yet to hear aout Nintendo suing Torrent users.
- Dunge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Why that? Maybe you are confounding anime with hentai. There are some really good anime series.
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11No... I betcha they will get their money.
- lowbot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7What should be 'cracking you up' is the idea of liability. In some jurisdictions you may be liable for what goes over your wire/wireless. Just saying 'it wasnt me' is meaningless.
- SevenTwo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Needs moar desu.
- qwuinc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Sounds awfully lot like someone has been learning from MAFIAA strategies...
- kpwells, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6death for speeding? jaywalking? smoking the reefer? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkk
- asianlikerice, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Man, anime is my Lifes blood! I can live without Hollywood movies but targeting anime....that is just heresy!
- down4twenty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6yea just allow valve in the PG2 menu. If that doesnt work just turn off torrent when yo play, it makes the game lag anyway.
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