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- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They are getting attacked on all fronts...Linux is becoming more and more user-friendly by the hour, and OSX is coming out for the x86 (this may not affect them now, but u just know Apple is going to shrinkwrap OSX someday...). Then there is Google and Yahoo kicking MSN's butt in the search engine market.
- uclatommy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow.. MS, Yahoo, AOL and Real Networks teaming up. That is the absolute worst business partnership EVER. Nothing good can come of this. I expect that in the future, we'll be bombarded by advertisements on our computers with no way to turn them off. Advertising and spyware mechanisms will be standard and hardcoded in all future applications. You will have to login to an online database connected to your yahoo/aol/real/mspassport account everytime you want to use your computer. They are like the axis of evil in the technology world.
- ziffel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Gates: "but Internet search engines are still in a terrible state compared to where they could be"
What's so terrible about them? I almost always find exactly what I'm looking for on Google, in about 0.3 seconds. Seems ok to me, certainly not "terrible". - BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"lol... thats the irony of this atricle "search engines are in a terrible state", so i am curious... what should they be doing? crashing, prone to viruses and rampant spyware? An OS that novice PC user now has to take in every 6 months to get cleaned of gunk that the user has no idea is being put on there? I don't really see how you could improve googles results much... maybe billy G just don't understand how to properly search... or... he is using MSN"
As a student in a major focused almost entirely on searching/search engines/computer-user interaction I know where he's coming from. Search definately has a long way to go. Just a few examples of things that can (and should) be done (or done better) are: categorical searching like vivisimo, advanced boolean logic like dialog, searching within fields like dialog (this means being able to search by author, year published, etc), much better keyword expansion and suggestion, and possibly natural language processing.
Sure, google and search engines like it have come a long way. But they definately have a long LONG way to go. As the internet grows the problem is becomming more and more difficult, but I think there's alot we could do to make it better. Based on their current search performance I doubt microsoft will be the one to do it. Perhaps google will with the amount man power they pour into research (although I'm not sure how well their model lends itself to major changes), but it's hard to say. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+1"Will the entire world change to Apply/Linux/Google OS just because its more user friendly?
No, publishers and workplaces are already content with Windows.
It does what it needs to do."
Couldn't agree more! - z0zin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't understand why people are bashing MS. I mean they're the reason people use Firefox, they're the reasons Linux is available, and they're also the reason Google is so ***** power hungry. I think it's called BUSINESS!
One company makes something, they monopolize, another company pops up makes it better, everyone sides with the new company cause they're "innovative"
Please, if MS wasn't here, then another company would have taken its spot! It's called competition, it means we get better ***** to play with! - crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Will the entire world change to Apply/Linux/Google OS just because its more user friendly?
No, publishers and workplaces are already content with Windows.
It does what it needs to do. - TheTrueSora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I almost always find exactly what I'm looking for on Google, in about 0.3 seconds."
Damn, it takes me 0.4! Google must like you better or something. - saggygrandma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Gates: "but Internet search engines are still in a terrible state compared to where they could be"
NO F**CKEN COMMENT ON WHERE YOUR PRODUCTS SHOULD BE! - Flyngwalrus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ironic that this article appears on Yahoo! News. It's nice to here Bill finally admit how much he wants to destroy Google.
... Sun Microsystems takes a collective sigh of disappointment. - crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0PS: Meant Apple of course
- Jaysturn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1...begin Microsoft bashing
- crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, google has a loong way to go to compete with Microsoft.
- NoUse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They are how many months behind schedule on Vista and they are trying to compete with Google? Windows used to be their strength and their core. I think they need to find their focus again.
- vikramkr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sun is going nowhere. Solaris sucks. Nobody uses it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0We have some Sun workstations at my university, what OS do they run on it? Win2000
- pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Results 1 - 20 of about 3,000,000 for porn
1 - 20 of about 3,640,000 for cat
Which proves there are more cat images on the net then porn? Google really needs to fix image search :) - Homerowed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wait until they get an OS. And is MS really going to be able to improve the search engine world.
- crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sun and Solaris is used alot in the business for servers and whatnought. Never used for home use.
- maloney_633, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and microsoft isnt terrible
- person, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good job Microsoft, step 1: identify the problem: your search sucks.
Now let's move on to step 2: do something about it. Hmm, haven't we been waiting for a decade or so?
Sure, MSN Search is in a terrible state... I agree! - lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Google's image searching sux ass"
..And so it begins, the bashing. - crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1They are "terrible" since it barely indexes the entire internet. Google like indexes only a tiny percent of the entire internet.
- addisonj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lol... thats the irony of this atricle "search engines are in a terrible state", so i am curious... what should they be doing? crashing, prone to viruses and rampant spyware? An OS that novice PC user now has to take in every 6 months to get cleaned of gunk that the user has no idea is being put on there? I don't really see how you could improve googles results much... maybe billy G just don't understand how to properly search... or... he is using MSN
- Osiriscky3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Godly
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Empirical - KillSudo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0agree, someone is always evil.
- BlueStarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"There still a lot that needs to be done."
Yea like fixing your ***** Operating System so that every other wack job with a hardon can't get into your system.
LoL - antiwmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0quote from some site was on digg
" As a really simple example, take this arbitrary exercise: You want to move five lines (paragraphs) from the middle of a text document to the end.
In MS Word; MS WordPad; or MS Notepad; all “user-friendly� Windows text editors, the quickest way to do this is:
- Ctrl-Shift-Down
- Ctrl-Shift-Down
- Ctrl-Shift-Down
- Ctrl-Shift-Down
- Ctrl-Shift-Down
- Ctrl-X
- Ctrl-End
- Ctrl-V
That’s assuming you use the keyboard. Otherwise, you need some Click-and-Drag mouse operations and a reliable autoscroll.
In vi, however, it is:
- d5d
- Shift-g
- p
There’s no comparison: Vi, which is about as user-unfriendly as it gets, beats Microsoft’s offerings hands down. Why? Because vi was designed for functionality, while Microsoft design to be “user-friendly�. Microsoft break everything down into easy steps, and so it takes far more steps to accomplish the same task.
" - jedimasterchief, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If Microsoft buys out Yahoo and AOL and takes them over then you will be using more Microsoft then ever before. If that happens if will be Microsoft vs Google in a battle for the Internet and computers. Microsoft needs to get a better search engine to get rid of google once and for all.
- popetorak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0d38as3r your a idiot
> Let me see "you will never need more than 128k of main memory"
Bill never said that. Or 256 or 512 or 640. And if he did, it was correct for its time. I had a whopping 640k in my computer in 1985. I put Dos in high, made a 200k Ram drive, and still had more memory than i ever needed.
> finally some people are waking up,
Not waking up, just being stupider people
> (Bill was rich long before he did anything, its called daddy, so if you think he is self made, do the research)
Do your research and stop guessing. He didnt use his parents money. He quit harvard to make programs for a toy. Because he saw what that toy could lead to. He took pride not to use his parents money.
> then I could say meaningless things and not care about looking like a fool.
You already are - burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Google's image searching sux ass"
Unfortunately, this is all too true. IMO, they have the best image search, its just that the best isn't all that good. - antiwmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so,
MS brain's user-friendly: anything that you can do with click click
OpenSource brain's user-friendly: anything that you can do it easily, quickly
anyway, has google ever officially announced Microsoft is their enemy or competitor?
I guess no... - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Google will soon conquer all and everyone knows it :)"
Hell no. - fordistumley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It seems rather suspicious that he opens the discussion with "we're not afraid of Google". Perhaps he's hiding something?
- aluminumpork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sorry, I can't see my grandma or parents or majority of my friends using Vi or Nano (my fav). They don't care if it takes longer, they care if it's easy and visual. The "I just want it to work" crown is bigger than any other other market. The person who just wants their computer to work. There will always be a market for a Windows product as long as you need to run commandline apt-get's or have to through any effort at all to get anything to work. Depending on what computer I install on, there's a good chance something won't work on a Linux install out of the box. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux. I do all my hosting on a debian box, didn't even install the GUI. Didn't need it.
- xelizer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google will soon conquer all and everyone knows it :)
- jdgtrplyr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google making an OS just does not seem like something I'd convert to.
Don't get me wrong, I use Google for e-mail and my primary search engine, and they both work excellent! But I'll still stick with Windows, OS X, and Ubuntu (or Debian) linux distributions. - mcpaige, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0filtered?
- lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Bill Gates's main competitor is his own hubris. And a bald, chair-throwing monkey.
- Flyngwalrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Sorry for the double post.
- d38as3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1 Let me see "you will never need more than 128k of main memory"
hum,
Once again Bill is starting to sound as stupid as George W. Its kind of like saying Michael Jordan is their major competitor. not even in the same vein of the business, I would say MS is MS's biggest enemy, they're idiots, screw MS, screw Windows, its all over, OSX is far superior, and any of you Linux fans I got news for ya, computers are meant to be used for work, not to BE work. and apple is climbing the ladder, finally some people are waking up, obviously Billy ain't one of em, I wish i was a spoiled rich kid (Bill was rich long before he did anything, its called daddy, so if you think he is self made, do the research), then I could say meaningless things and not care about looking like a fool. (heh, maybe i do anyway!) And it seems to me that google is aimed at being the Interpol of the next decade. Questions, contradictions... by all means. Bring dat ISH! - raining_west, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0hehe...eat is MS.
- angelwspr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0yahoo must feel insulted... ;p
- crazyfan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Thanks for the article!
Like the entire article - BlackMamba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Google (98bn) doesn't compare with MS (270bn) at all. Though they might be competitors in search market, but MS has a wider platform to perform.
With you, Bill! :) - Flyngwalrus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Ironic that this article appears on Yahoo! News. It's nice to hear Bill finally admit how much he wants to destroy Google.
... Sun Microsystems takes a collective sigh of disappointment. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Google's image searching sux ass
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Google's image searching sux ass, i can never find any good porno pictures
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0search for "anal sex", only return 25 page of results, wtf!!!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Google's image searching sux ass, search for "anal sex", only return 25 page of results, wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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