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- joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -14/+65a DoS attack involves hundred or thousands of compromised 'zombie' PCs. anyone even having control over one other person's computer has already broken the law.
The only people that DoS attacks actually hurt are large corporations that need their websites online 24/7 in order to make money.
this isn't 'Hackers' and you're not LordNikon or ZeroCool. Don't you have a myspace you need to be on, or something? - joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30al-qaeda is currently down for server mainenance, please come back in 12-24 hours
- datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30@joel2600
Isn't a Dos attack simply malformed packets coming from a single system slowing an internet connection while a DDos attack is a distributed denial of service attack involving thousand of systems? - astatine, on 10/12/2007, -9/+26If you want to fight terrorism through the internet, use it to persuade people there's no God, religion and nationality is an irrelevant distraction, and that humanity can prosper and survive without using superstition as a crutch.
Well, either that or sign them all up for World of Warcraft. - Elohir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19http://www.al-qaeda.com
HTTP Error 404: Osama not found - optimusfx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"the Godfather of cyber-terrorism"
Gotta love the marketing that the press does for Al Qaeda. - Zoids, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I bet these terrorists who hate the western world so much use windows.
- returnofmalv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I guess I must have missed that part in the Quran speaking out against computers and the Internet.
- noamsml, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12"a DoS attack involves hundred or thousands of compromised 'zombie' PCs. anyone even having control over one other person's computer has already broken the law."
Not necessarily. There are types of "good" DoSes into which many people enter voluntarily. A good example of that would be a utility called (I think) SpamVampire, which repeatedly downloads the largest possible file from a certain spammer or conman's website.
Sure, one geek running that kind of utility may not have an impact, but if thousands of geeks decide to run it at the same time, your talking business.
(alternatively, you can just post the link to the terror org's website on Digg and Slashdot at the same time, and then just sit back, relax and wait for the server to burst into flames) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11You think terrorists are bombing people cause they want to get rid of barbie and coke?
No.
It's because of the west's(mainly UK and US) attitude that they can go and create democracy where ever the hell they want. The US is not even a democracy (it's a republic) but hey who cares about the facts when you can just sell your children's future to pay for control of the oil?
//end rant - MattH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Im amazed that these guys are not using TOR and other tools that encrypt and hide your identity .
http://tor.eff.org/ - noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The "honey pot" sites thing doesn't surprise me in the least. It also strikes me that selective compromises of DNS servers by the FBI (or whoever) would be one way to find out who was trying to access irhabi007.com; transparently route requests through an FBI proxy server to the genuine machine so that no-one twigs what's going on (unless they're paying close attention), and record every access in a log.
- hagrin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'll be modded down for offtopic, but where else should this go.
This is a perfect example of why meta moderation doesn't work in its current form. Here you have incorrect information being modded up over 20 times because uninformed users have the same say as someone who knows a topic "expertly". Maybe, there needs to be another level of meta moderation (like Slashdot and their Karma score), but instead base it off of technical/subject matter knowledge. Honestly, I'm not exactly sure how to accomplish this and it sort of sounds like the *shudder* MVP system, but without reading every comment (inefficient) you can't easily garner the additional value added content that comments are supposed to be giving users. - acceptab1euname, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@joel2600: I take issue with the statement that DoS attacks only hurt "large corporations who need to be online 24/7". As an IT worker, I think I can safely guess that you have clearly never been the victim of a packeting. DoS attacks hurt everything involved, from the origins of the packets all the way to the target of the attack.
You must have never had to share a residential broadband node with a bunch of rooted computers being used in a DDoS attack...guess what that does to the connectivity of the people who are responsible when it comes to computer security? Heh, and good luck trying to get tech support to do anything about it. If you telecommute, you're out of luck. That's productivity and money lost.
On the other end of the attack, you've obviously never had to share network space with a DoS victim. Collateral Damage really sucks, you know. Maybe e-mail isn't designed to be reliable and shouldn't be used as an essential means of communication, but that's not how it works in reality; and if your work e-mail server is offline because somebody else in the hosting facility pissed off a packet kiddy, well...you're out of luck. That's money lost.
Oh, and all those networks between the zombies and the target that the DDoS traffic travels across? They get to bear the load of all that garbage data, which means that their pipes can't carry legitimate customer traffic. Pushing bits around isn't free, you know. Bearing the traffic of a sizeable DoS could potentially financially ruin a small ISP that provided hosting as well as local DSL/dial-up services.
And of course, being the actual *target* of a DoS attack is an exercise in pure frustration, even if your ISP is responsive and helpful. If somebody wants to knock you offline, most likely they can, unless you can afford expensive DoS-mitigation services. Cleaning up after such an attack costs time and money.
DoS attacks suck for everybody involved. - NerdyNinja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The Godfather of cyber-terrorism is a... webmaster and a forum junkie? Are you kidding me?
- sorti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5World of Warcraft super idea! And pizza delivery, and all the other junk food we can give them for about 5 years they will all be as fat as me, and the bomb belts won't fit anymore.
- DannoHung, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What's a safe bomb like? Does it explode hugs and kisses? Or perhaps marshmallows?
- noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So you're saying that Al Qaeda are now experts in that 80s BBS crap that tells you how to destroy your teacher's car when he gives you detention?
- rdas7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I, for one, welcome our accountant overlords.
- paragonconcept, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3he hax0red t3h g1bs0n !!!!!!!! sounds like a bunch of irc BS - my little sister can post crap on you tube and understands the need for load balancing - does anyone else think that this article seems blown completely out of proportion? since when is an irc warez / script kiddie who can take advantage of pubs and post on a BBS system a national threat.... (to anyone other than the RIAA/MPAA)
- shutdown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4What a load of bollocks this article is. I love this quote...
"Al-Qaeda became, in the words of a BBC2-TV series last year, "a global brand driven by the power of the World Wide Web.""
That documentary was pointing out how a ramshackle group of loosely affiliated terror groups saw a rebirth as the all powerful - all frightening 'Al-Qaeda' - simply through the scare mongering and inaccurate reporting on the web / blogsphere - by articles just like this! - AtheistArmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good to see that UK press is finally keeping up with US news sources. The impartiality was starting to bother me.
- nnonix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey, give the guy some credit. Downloading and cataloging terabytes of Goat-Porn can't be easy. I guess movie night at the Al Qaeda Training Camps is about to get very boring.
- Juledu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3al-qaeda doesnt need to be expert in anything... they just have to exist...the media does the rest.
- annonimality, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"whilst helping them load rocket launchers into the back of their car". That's not an exaggeration? Wow, things are worse in the UK than I had thought.
~oops, this was supposed to go under gagravaar - crazyjeff0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Irhabi007 is such a lame name. It reminds me of those lame 12 year-olds in CS
- Fenster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I am assuming there is an opening for that position now, and I expect to see that posted on Monster within the day......."the Godfather of...." Finally, a title I would gladly take in place of a raise.....
- noksok, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Or better yet. It doesn't have to exist at all.
From Wikipedia: "The lack of any significant numbers of convicted al-Qaeda members despite a large number of arrests on terrorism charges is cited by the documentary as a reason to doubt whether a widespread entity that meets the description of al-Qaeda exists at all."
Little 1984 for everyone. - epilonious, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"The fanaticism of the enemy drives them to be very creative, finding new ways to use our own technology against us."
If they ever figure out how to encode secret terrorist messages in Whiny Dramatic 1337-speak on LiveJournal... the US is screwed.
"PerkyWhiny227: I am all w33py because my mom said I couldn't go to gothapalooza2007. She did say I could go to the prom tho *barrrf*"
-translation-
"They are onto us, move to target plan B!" - int19h, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm just waiting for the movie...
- msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Already on the fp.
http://digg.com/world_news/the_Godfather_of_cyber_terrorism_Man_who_put_Al_Qaeda_on_the_Web - wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3And shortly there after... *Sound of hammer / slide being drawn back... blood splattering across tent.*
UBL ~ "Next geek... fix my BSOD." - AsciiAnsi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"From Wikipedia"
Right, because the wikipedia is known to be 100% accurate as well... - mult1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This whole article just reeks of BS
In 10 years of using the Internet I have never been subjected to any AL-Qaeda
information ,propaganda
But mind you I have never gone looking.
there was that first beheading out of Iraq and a few announcements made by the AL-Qaeda spokesman that made to the web before hitting the mainstream
But pages on how to build bombs I have seen have been around since BBS days
that came from mostly American neo nazi sources. When the AL-Qaeda IT dept finally got going they had plenty of stuff to copy
and translate into Arabic
see: « constructive chaos »
http://www.voltairenet.org/article142429.html - riverside71, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Al-qayda seems really smart.. they can post announcements, photos, videos interviews of Osama on the web freely.. without ever getting tracked down.. and when they do.. the "jihaadi" websites usually trace back to Langley Virginia or some military contractors in Dallas Texas ...
stupid useful idiots ... all of you.. Deserve to be drafted and sent to be killed thinking you're fighting the 'enemy' and 'for your country'... best damn way to clean the gene pool. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That is pretty much what the article said, and why they don't shut more sites down.
- djhash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@returnofmalv: Thank you for an amazing and hilarious yet true and to the point comment.. kudos..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so its dupe
- chubbymidget, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Bet those bastards don't get outsourced
- eliasg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6It's funny how some of the extreme fundamentalists would normally be very against computers and technology. Seeing how some of them want to revert to a way of living that mimics the dark ages. Yet, it's OK for them to "dip into" technology breaking their own moral codes/rules to terrorize us.
- sailor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, they keep the poor, uneducated masses in the dark so that they will not realize that the terroists are nothing more than common criminals, led by even crazier psychotic self proclaimed holy men.
The reason it doesn't bother them to use the tools of the "infidels", is because they are no more a Muslim than I am!!! Religion is no different than the weapon in their hands.
Unfortunately, people will continue to be used and killed for following these lunatics until they come to realize the truth of it all. - Emrecall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Interesting article to wade through, and with no print function or whole article view, I do mean wading from page to page. The fanaticism of the enemy drives them to be very creative, finding new ways to use our own technology against us. Securing systems you're responsible for has never been more important.
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Irhabi007 started appearing on radical Islamist bulletin boards and in chat rooms. For his user I.D., he melded "irhabi," which means "terrorist" in Arabic, to the code number of the world's most famous, albeit fictional, British secret agent. "
Wow... he uses "terrorist007" as his handle. We're lucky MI5 is really good at spotting those guys, even with the most subtle appearances. Surely, a guy with a web page and several post on a forum is the proof that there a large organization with unbelievable power and skills is ready to storm our world.. I mean, once he stops ranting on forums and chatrooms.
Ben Laden must be sooo pissed. - AtheistArmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I (cross-posted) a link to this documentary yesterday.
http://digg.com/world_news/Orwell_was_wrong_BBC_documentary_on_the_sham_that_is_The_War_on_Terror
We're all tools... - cedrick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1al-quaeda can use the internet. see? thats why this whole "series of tubes" nonsense was born. theyre afraid of al-quaeda clogging the tubes with bombs and blocking our porn. BEWARE!!!
- nsmitchell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can just see this guy telling Osama some instructions to type on his keyboard, while hovering over his shoulder like Nick Burns, the Computer Guy from SNL, then saying, "MOVE!"
- blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow.. you mean they let a computer saavy guy enter Great Britain? Heads must roll!
- moeq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The guy who wrote this article knows nothing about terrorist networks. There is no overarching organization that directs all terrorists: That's a fiction that the US government has perpetrated on the world. In reality, there's just little individual terrorist groups who all share the same general goal: Kill all non-muslims. There's no great conspiracy organization directing them all. They just hate the west and hate the jews. They don't need anyone to tell them which group to hate, it just comes from their clerics and their culture.
- norm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm amazed that the police were able to find incriminating evidence on his computer with all the free encryption apps around. He's either very ignorant or not very paranoid. Well... maybe he just picked really stupid passwords
- NoNom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Officially the US is an Indirect-Democracy...
which translates to democracy on a state level and a republic on the federal level. If you have any doubts about the federal govt being a republic recite the Pledge of Allegiance. -
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