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- inactive, on 11/03/2007, -7/+44I was banned because I was referred by a person who was banned.
WAS NOT MY FAULT - giantAppleCore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28or, what do you do about malicious banned adsense users who click on every ad they see in the hope of banning more users?
- BenWhitey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27How do you prevent other people from spamming clicks on your site (making it look like you asked people to click when you didn't) ?
i.e. Your friends see new ads on your site, so they click on them thinking that they are doing you a favor. Are we supposed to tell our friends not to click on them? That seems counter productive to everyone. - binnyva, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23You might be editing the code
You may be using competing advertising products on the same page.
You may be using copyrighted content.
You could be using inappropriate language.
...
The list could go on for a bit.
The Google AdSense Program Policies...
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=48182 - fauxpaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Hrmmm... I checked your profile and went to your website. Then I checked the other websites in your Network. If these are the sites Google doesn't want to display its ads on, I gotta say I'm not surprised.
Personally, I don't have an issue with your content. But I know my boss wouldn't want our ads running on a site with the tagline "Napalm sticks to kids." - Redth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19The truth is, this article is looking through rose colored glasses. Sure, these are all reasons and good reasons to get banned, but there are other causes for adsense bans which are in many peoples' opinions unjustified.
As mentioned above, we have competitors, or just malicious users in general out there click spamming other sites' ads so that they get banned from adsense. It's not so easy to guard against this type of activity.
What it boils down to is. You can get banned for doing things against the TOS set out by google. You can also get banned by following the TOS perfectly. There's a lot more problems with Adsense, this is just the tip of the iceberg, but this comment is not the place for exposing it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14"No, Website Magazine wasn't banned from Adsense. We don't even use it! If we did though, we'd follow..."
They aren't qualified to post anything about Adsense. This article is worthless trash. Google can ban you for anything they want and it's not necessarily your fault. - BionicBeefpile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10That's exactly what happened to me. Google wasn't hearing my appeal either.
I actually DID tell my friends not to click on the ads, and to just go about business as usual. Maybe they thought I was joking, but unfortunately I was not. - neoian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10What if you are on a large network, like a company or something? If everyone clicks on the ads, and it is all coming from the same IP and PC setup how does Google know that they aren't fraudulent clicks? I have always wondered this...
Are there any providers better than Google for online ads? - Phantom784, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@Jrr6415sun Yes, it is against their policies to offer incentives to click the ads.
- bkool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The article picks out several obvious violations of the TOS and comes to the conclusion that these are really the only reasons that members get banned. Here are a few examples that can get you banned, and you never violated the TOS.
1. Your jealous competitor clicks on all your links and has its employees do it as well.
2. Your relatively unknown site suddenly gets on the Digg frontpage and some Digg users decide to click all the ads on the page out of spite to Google (or just to be *****).
3. You get trapped in a bot spam war. Where the advertiser's/spammer's competitors bot your site and click on all the links. Don't cancel the site's account. Track the bad guys down! - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10every reason was the same, reworded
- secretivecoward, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Google is EVIL!
I worked for google adwords as a temp, and Google set quotas for number of accounts we had to ban. I kind of felt sorry for people with lots of money in their account, but it was either their money or my job. - LarianLeQuella, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Story burried as lame. Way to insult millions of users who were banned, and getting them to visit your site (which has AccessoryAds.com for some reason, did these folks get banned too?).
- BenWhitey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@altf4me: same here. I appealed, but I wasn't surprised when it was denied. They don't even share the evidence that "proves" you did not follow the ToS. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Ah, I remember my first click-fraud scam back in high school.
geocities account + some random porn images + one usenet post +some javascript and a fake AdultCheck login form == $150 before they pulled the plug on it, and a hell of a lot of free porn. - dalooo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Hey Secretivecoward,
Why did google do this? I believe you, but I just find it strange they would ban adwords accounts.
I started using Yahoo and MSN search more, I think google's don't do evil slogan is long past. I would like more competition in search and don't want google or any single company to monopolize search and control the internet. - altf4me, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I got banned and I hadn't actually talked to anyone about the ads. The last thing I expected was to get banned, and it was right before a payout. I emailed them but received a generic pre-written email.
- dmron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7All the reasons are obvious and all have to do with click fraud. Gee, click fraud gets you banned? Who would have ever thought. Why does this crap get voted up?
- OBCENEIKON, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6chalk another one up on the board, appealed, denied...
- flink405, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6And you know that even though you get banned Google is still going to collect the money from the advertisers for all those "illegal" clicks.
You really think Google sends an invoice to advertisers that says:
"X" clicks - "Y" fraud clicks = Amount you owe us for legit clicks.
Nah. Google bills them all, but doesn´t pay the people they ban.
It´s a scam and it will all come tumbling down. - trenchcoat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9One of my sites was banned from Adsense for the following...
Our program specialists regularly review sites in the AdSense program. We have reviewed your site, (site name here), and found that we are unable to display ads that would provide a valuable experience for your site's users or our advertisers. As we feel that the site isn't a good fit for the AdSense program at this time, we have disabled ad serving to the site. - chris4404, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@Ranferi
I just visited your site, not so good. - teknotant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5If you see a high CTR and abnormal amount of clicks just contact Google (email) and explain the situation. They can and will check for fraud and adjust your account accordingly. I have only had to do this once and they replied very fast and explained the situation to me.
- EmmSee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Jeezus, I think it's hilarious that people in this thread have clicked on their own ads and been banned... how hard up for a few dollars are you? It's the #1 DON'T of AdSense.
Also.. you're banned for life for your SSN / Tax ID ... good luck! - Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Here is why I was dumped from adsense.
Got the account, thought it was cool, started developing my webpage with the ads turned on (should have left them off until I was ready to publish). In the mean time, told a few friends and Dad about how I could make money by posting ads on my website. Dad and friends thought it would help me out to go to my website every few hours and click on all the ads. I might have clicked once or twice to see how the system works and what kind of "profit" it generates.
Made $3 and change in my first week from adsense, Google rerported me as being in violation of their "policies" because obviously my clicks were coming from suspiciously the same ip, especially since my friends work in the same office network, so my account was axed.
Made a plea to review the decision, basically Google considered me small potatoes and wouldn't re-instate my account. A year later and they still won't consider my original account valid (not that I care now really, setup another account for another website).
Wow, I supposedly ripped off a multi-billion dollar company of $3 and change. I am such an evil person because I was excited and curious about how adsense worked, and clicked on my own website ads a few times. I mean, even though my friends and dad clicked repeated on my website, how could I really be blamed for OTHER people clicking repeatedly on the ads, isn't that the whole point of adsense, to get 3rd parties clicking on web ads?
So, is it my fault? No, its Google's overly sensitive analysis tools that will smite a small time website owner in record time, but allows and ignores spam websites with obvious phishing scams to proliferate as high ranked and sponsored websites.
F*ck google, its bubble will burst, believe me. - Rekzai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5f*ck adblock
- amaris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I happen to use both of their services, I serve and purchase clicks from them, and you're right, they'll collect the money from the 'illegal' clicks, and you won't believe the hoops you have to jump through to just contest a bad click.
Google is REALLY good at tracking down the little guys like the $3 example previously mentioned, but they SUCK at tracking down the large bot farms that actually drive up the costs. - saladtossser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7is it ok if you explain how adsense works thus appealing to the generous surfers?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I'm sure cookies play a big part.
If they're using the same actual PC (and thus same cookie), they're probably not going to be using it fast enough to look like a bot. - puthor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you click on your own ads
if you ask someone to click it for you
if you use a bot to click the ads
if you are not smart enough to understand that BIG BOTHER IS WATCHING..Then you get banned! - mianos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It gets voted up because the same people digg this guy's stories every time. The only way to fix this is be diligent in your mark as lame.
- BrokenBeta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5What, you think Google uses cookies to work out when the same person clicks over and over?
Try "IP Address". - Skitzzo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4No, you'll still get banned. You just will have more evidence to aid in your defense. The only problem is, even if you offer up evidence, they might not restore your account. Read this article for more http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2006/09/19/get-any-adsense-account-banned/ and look at the digg story here (http://digg.com/business_finance/Get_Any_Competitors_Adsense_Account_Banned_Permanently) for more discussion.
- zach382, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8@Ranferi
I just visited your site also, to bad i have adblock on and cant see any of the ads to click on. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6According to Google's "TOS", they can you bann you for any reason that they wish. And they do.
Dugg down as lame. - Pyrogen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They could, but from the comments above, its easier and more profitable to simply not pay "illegal" adsense account holders and keep the money they generated.
Those $3 accounts that they seize add up quickly. - dalooo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You should look into Yahoo's Publishing system, I have a Yahoo Store and the support Yahoo offers is excellent in my opinion.
But I have no idea about their TOS for their publishing network. But from my experience if you have problems level 1 support can't answer they atleast transfer you to level 2 support. - ramdizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think this just reveals another area where the Internet is testing the moral (or immoral) actions of people. I commend google for trying to keep illegal clicks from happening, but like most things, their detection will not be 100% accurate. At least they are trying to keep people honest. I just hope they are honest in the method that they are using to detect these illegal clicks, and it's not just the engineers censoring sites.
- perral1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@teknotant
I believe that they were talking about the other way around; as in, they don't want to get banned from putting adsense ads on their page when malicious people just randomly click their ads over and over.
And BTW, I agree it's BS. Innocent until proven guilty indeed...
-Perral1 - Ogopogo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2.. banned from digg , but you can still post comments here?
- webguru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Adlogger ( http://www.adlogger.org ) is a good open-source ( free :D ) program that I use to control malicious users that click to often on an ad.
This prevents click-fraud so I won't get banned for that reason that easily. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A lesson for anyone who's worried about adsense:
http://www.richgentlemenhide.com/comic/quack-mega-blogger-tron-indigo/ - nakani, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm planning on launching a website with lots of original content using AdSense to generate revenue, but now I'm starting to worry if I get banned while following the TOS (jealous competitor or some other fluke) will my entire revenue model have gone to waste? This scares me. What are some other programs similar to AdSense to fall back on?
- casemac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It seems kinda rediculous that companies will do this when they know their advertising on google is a huge source of getting people onto their websites.
- fauxpaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, that's unfortunate. I think that's what annoys so many people that are commenting here -- the lack of consistency on Google's part.
At least your sites have legitimate content. My boss is really ticked off right now that our ads for medical equipment are showing on MFA sites like OldTrucks.com. As we speak, one of our employees is digging through logs and systematically excluding every MFA site she finds. - zoom1928, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3nakani, you probably don't want to use AdSense anyway. They don't pay crap. For just over 412,000 impressions we made less than $3:
http://users.upstate.net/zoom/adsense_fraud2.gif
I don't see why anyone bothers with it. - sooperdooper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2...How much change, exactly?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Good article. A lot of people seem to regard AdSense as some sort of game to squeeze the maximum dollars out of their ***** sites with no regard to their users or the advertisers.
It's nice to see an article putting the blame right where it belongs instead of kids whining and blaming Google because they were banned for stealing from advertisers. - Barnonski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Sounds like Google could be far more effective in their selection/banning methods for the Adsense program.
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