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- inactive, on 05/01/2009, -6/+44Say NO to DRM! - http://www.defectivebydesign.org/
- RoboDonut, on 05/01/2009, -1/+22The point is that it should be LEGAL.
Also, it is, metaphorically, "rocket science". You just don't think it is because you didn't write the software. The people who develop these things are skilled cryptographers and reverse engineers, and their entire field of study has been at risk because of the DMCA. - shutaro, on 05/01/2009, -6/+22***** THE RIAA!
- SOS84, on 05/02/2009, -3/+16***** the DMCA, we have a constitutional right to crack DRM and nothing these hacks can do will take that away. Intellectual property is the one aspect of commerce specifically mentioned in the COTUS but it strikes a balance between property and fair use. The MPAA and RIAA have violated our rights as Americans and be forced to pay. CRACK away my friends, it is your right.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -1/+14Yes, when large numbers of the people (millions) are breaking a law, the law is wrong by default, unless of course, the law is protecting the health and welfare of someone else, but that isn't the case here. Here we have a law that is only protecting the business interests of a small handful of companies, whose interests are in stark contrast to the interests of their own customers. This is not a law the public demanded, this is a law enacted through corruption and lobbying on the part of the few against the many.
Therefor, the law must be changed. - theaceoface, on 05/01/2009, -0/+13Where did that come from? A bit uncalled for, no?
- theaceoface, on 05/01/2009, -2/+14How have we gotten to a point where corporations can decide what you do with a product... even after you own it
- mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -0/+11I own the copy, plain and simple. If i want to sell the copy i have a right to do so (first sale, it should and does, in my opinion, apply here). I can also destroy it, or otherwise do whatever i wish with it within my own house. Any restrictions on what i can do with my copy are overreaching.
- Travelsonic, on 05/02/2009, -1/+11Why?
I don't give a ***** if you feel threatened by piracy, if I feel like the creation of a backup copy of [software, movies, music] is necessary, I should have the right as a consumer who has seen this practice continually proven legal in other circumstances - to expect that cracking DRM for this purpose be defended as well. - mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -1/+8The characterization of DRM cracking as a '"right" is incorrect. Rather it should not be criminal to do so.
- SOS84, on 05/02/2009, -1/+7Not is not an uphill battle because virtually every EULA attached to media is unconstitutional because they violate individuals rights to fair use.
- Myztry, on 05/02/2009, -0/+6By purchasing an item (including a CD) you are entering into a sale contract (as deemed by Government) and are granted rights by the Government. The government alone stipulates what your rights are at this point. You can use the item in any legal manner.
Where this falls down, is the Government is not preventing technically enforced adhesion contracts that remove access to these rights under duress. It is quite valid to refuse to enter a contract without modifying any pre-exisiting rights or contracts (of sale). Refusing to enter a contract does not bind you to it's terms.
Many of the terms in EULA adhesion contracts are unenforcable and void even with acceptance. Many "unfair terms" are simply unenforcable. For example the jurisdictian I am under disallows http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ ...
The problem is that the technological measures enforce the terms even when they are illegal, or not accepted, and that needs to change at the very least. - inactive, on 05/02/2009, -0/+6They (RIAA and others) what to make this security by obscurity.....if it is a crime, their encryption is "safe".
Here is an IDEA: No DRM because in the end it is just wasted money in Research and Development which in turn gets passed to the consumer as increased product cost.
Honestly, when I buy something outright, I don't want anyone dictating how I use the product. There are already laws regarding pirating and from what I can tell, this DRM crap does nothing to prevent pirating but everything to increase the cost to me. - Travelsonic, on 05/02/2009, -0/+6Of course, contract law isn't cut-ant-dry, provisions of EULAs have been struck down. Hopefully the ones created that prevent backing up software, and the provisions that (allegedly) allow for the BSA's shady auditing practices will be struck down.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -0/+5@khast, thats how things play out right now, but regardless of anything else, DRM, ridiculous laws, etc, I own the copy.
- Khast, on 05/01/2009, -1/+6You don't own it, according to the EULA you are just given permission to use the product. (And if you violate any part of the EULA then in most cases your copy becomes illegal...as the agreement is thus terminated.)
This is definitely an uphill battle...as the software, music, and movie industries have lobbied to have this much control over their medias...and I highly doubt they will just give this power back to the people. - 1packer, on 05/02/2009, -0/+5I'm pretty sure they were heavily involved in writing this legislation... So anything they are exploiting is something they put in to limit consumer's freedoms.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -2/+6Which constitutional right?
- xexx, on 05/02/2009, -0/+4Seems like it's about time they legalize cracking the DRM on printer ink so companies can produce cheaper alternatives. ~$40 ink is nuts when there's no need to plastic ink containers to cost more than one dollar.
- nullcodes, on 05/02/2009, -1/+5How can they be allowed to make cracking DRM a crime?
It's mathematical curiosity and hobby, to crack DRM. Now disseminating the crack to others who you know will use it for the purpose of circumventing copy protection AND make unauthorized use of a product.. may be that could be made illegal (I still disagree, but I see some validity there). It also shouldn't be illegal to inform someone how to circumvent DRM if they aren't going to utilize the knowledge to circumvent copy protection and steal something. - SOS84, on 05/02/2009, -1/+5And yeah, if I bought it, I own it.
- dent42, on 05/02/2009, -1/+4Dude, this is something pretty important to all of us! Who cares if Mr. Babyman submitted it?
- Khast, on 05/02/2009, -1/+3@ SOS84: So it may be unconstitutional..doesn't mean they can't scare the ***** out of you with a cease and desist order. And if you refuse, and by the off chance they want to pursue? Can you afford lawyers which actually could defend you against theirs?
@mesteveman1: And why is it that digital downloads have all of a sudden become a more popular media distribution? It isn't to be environmentally friendly... It's to prevent you from selling it...You don't really own it...you are merely renting it until they say you can't. Same can be said for the draconian DRM which was used in Spore. - KibibyteBrain, on 05/02/2009, -2/+4I used to think that too, but if you think about it, the RIAA are not the real problem, and being distracted by attacking them is sort of a red herring that will hold back progress.
They are just doing what any company would/should do and exploiting their legal avenues to the maximum effect. What we should be doing is crying out for a fundamental reform of the copyright system and not relying on the goodwill of for-profit companies not to abuse obvious exploits of a law that was meant to promote Freedom, not diminish it. - mulling, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1Apparently people don't like me pooping on drm?
- LostSoul83, on 05/02/2009, -0/+1A version of the song "This land is your land" for the DRM age:
"This book is your book... It is not my book... Even though I bought it, you can still control it... This is not moral... but that does not maaaattttter... you are the one with all the cash." - drakeshe, on 05/02/2009, -1/+1I hate the DRM. I mean WTH? We bought it so therefore we should own it...
I can't believe that corporations are allowed to use it. I'm glad that finally people will be able crack it.
Drakeshe
http://drakenscripts.co.cc - mrsteveman1, on 05/02/2009, -4/+1You're keeping track?
- inactive, on 05/02/2009, -4/+0Constitutional right?.
What utter nonsense. - inactive, on 05/02/2009, -7/+1His ***** tastes extra delicious today.
- tj_walker, on 05/01/2009, -9/+3Digg it up!
= : )K - thetruthis, on 05/02/2009, -13/+6187 diggs in 9 minutes? You guys ride babyman's nutz!
- DannySpace, on 05/01/2009, -8/+1Cracking DRM is so yesterday.
- mulling, on 05/02/2009, -12/+4DRM is great.
For me to poop on. - liorgalanti, on 05/01/2009, -12/+2The funny part is that they are asking for permission to do something that has already been happening for years on a vast scale... i mean ripping a dvd is so easy today anyone who knows how to use google can do it and sim unlocking a phone is not exactly rocket science. who exactly. they must be feeling awful stupid to discuss those things
- inactive, on 05/02/2009, -11/+0Just do your work!! work work work!!
cheers,
http://workingatemc.blogspot.com - inactive, on 05/02/2009, -14/+0Crusaders?.What a joke.
Cracking DRM is one thing, but asking for such a thing to be a perfectly legal "right" is just retarded. - rnawky, on 05/01/2009, -17/+1Grats, this is your first comment that has ended up with a positive digg count. Lets see how long it lasts.
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