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- krystalo, on 06/10/2009, -3/+18More blogspam from TC?
Actual Source: http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/2009/06/use-m ... - teh_spazz, on 06/10/2009, -2/+9Only for Google Apps Premier users...my free Google Apps domain doesn't benefit. Oh well!
- BoneStamp, on 06/10/2009, -0/+6Ya, and a hosted open source Exchange compatible solution is still cheaper than google apps premier if all you want is push email, contact / calendar sync.
- BoneStamp, on 06/10/2009, -0/+5I dunno, I appreciated the first paragraph being almost entirely about how Arrington had to wake up at 7am! OMG... The HORROR!!! /s
- MWeather, on 06/10/2009, -0/+4Isn't your exchange server both bandwidth dependant, and a single point of failure?
- MWeather, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3For companies that large an internal network is usually a WAN spread over multiple sites, so the local email server isn't exactly local. Unless you are at corporate HQ, you're going to need to rely on a telecom company's wire. That's not much better than relying in an internet connection. In many cases it's worse.
- MWeather, on 06/10/2009, -1/+4Care to name one? Last time I shopped around Google was the cheapest email provider.
- KibibyteBrain, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3Isn't this the opposite of this? Google says you can keep your own apps and OS if that floats your boat: they don't care. They just want to supply the services.
- edzilla, on 06/10/2009, -1/+4Does it work with windows mobile?
- BoneStamp, on 06/10/2009, -0/+3@MWeather
The article quotes Forrester research that says the average Google Apps Premier customer pays $8.47 per user per month. The company I use, costs $5.99 per user per month and it basically mimics an Exchange server, so you get push email on iPhone, WinMo, Outlook, Thunderbird...etc along with contact and calendar sync. Here is the name since you asked...
http://www.getsyncd.com/ - ThsGuyRightHere, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2Everything is automatically archived for 90 days for premier users, not sure what goes into longer archiving requirements.
- ThsGuyRightHere, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2If redundancy is a priority for a company, chances are they're already using redundant ISP's. A company for whom internal email and calendaring is high priority, but communication with the outside world is not, might be better running Exchange on redundant servers internally. Of course if redundancy is important than they're running on servers with multiple procs, and IIRC Microsoft licensing on multi-proc servers is pretty expensive. And when those servers are due to be replaced, the option of scrapping Exchange entirely and moving those services to the cloud for $50 a head + whatever network upgrades are necessary could be pretty attractive.
- DrCheese, on 06/10/2009, -1/+3wake me up when the free version can do this
- briLo, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2Managing an exchange server for a small biz sucks in what way?? It's simple to setup, simple to administer and simple to backup giving you've done a bit of research.
You'll offload this task for a fee and no control?? Enjoy telling your boss you're email is down because........well, because you have no idea!!! Then get on the phone and call Google Support, good luck with that! - se7en11, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2I do wish this was available for all Google App customers, but we do get a lot for free anyway. :)
One concern I do have is over the backups. How is it handled and what control do you have over it. - trevorjez, on 06/10/2009, -2/+3Yeah - because the Enterprise world wants all their information in the cloud...
- Rudegar, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1doh! and here am I trying to move to thunderbird and looking for ways to sync
with wm phone, ipod touch, google and facebook :S - plzhateme, on 06/10/2009, -5/+6This will be nice on my G1
- bunnybash, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1your gmail, gcalendar and to do lists will sync fully with outlook now... instead of using exchange... afaik i think it is only google apps accounts though and not regular gmail accounts.
- PxCxG, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1It's not similar at all...
- hitkaiser, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Well you can sync the calendar for free
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer. ... - BoneStamp, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Ya, that's cheaper then. It doesn't look like you get push email for your mobile phone though. I'd consider switching if they offered true Exchange compatibility.
- Jareth86, on 06/11/2009, -0/+1Am I the only one baffled by the absence of a touch-friendly gmail client for Windows mobile? So far there's one for blackberrys and even regular cell phones. :/
- plzhateme, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1I just based that on the fact that most firms issue blackberrys solely on the basis of great exchange support, which is focused with outlook. My dad, my brother, my uncle, my friends are all required by their firms to use blackberrys.
- r00fus, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Outsourcing work only helps if you're good an negotiating service contracts and putting the pressure on your service vendors. The good part is, some semi-tech people (sales, finance, etc) have these skillsets, so if you're short on the IT skillsets, it's a good option.
Not to mention, you still need that skill when managing other services like your internet pipe, your telephony, etc. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Is it really that complicated? If you use Gmail, GCal, etc you can use Outlook as the frontend, *IF* you subscribe to Google Apps Premier at $50/user/year. This lowers the barriers to entry for a company that wants shared messaging and calendaring, and it also gives Google an offering where they can potentially displace Exchange installations.
- MWeather, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1"The article quotes Forrester research that says the average Google Apps Premier customer pays $8.47 per user per month."
Well they're wrong. It's $50/year, or $4.17 per user per month. - TimDigg, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1If you have a gmail account...you have access to all the apps with that....at least I'm 99.93% perecent sure..
- tonmil, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1I prefer Outlook. I like the basic features such as sorting on any field.
I would be concerned about response times when the server is in the cloud vs having data on my PC and syncing to the server. It sucks with MS Exchange and probably does with Google. - tonmil, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1But does it sync Outlook Tasks? If not, then I'm not using it.
- CraigHwk, on 06/10/2009, -0/+0The only reason why my company gave up on the idea of Google Apps was due to the lack of Outlook sync. This changes everything and we're more likely to give it a go now.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+0lol thnx
- CraigHwk, on 06/10/2009, -0/+0OMG it's about frakin time.
- briLo, on 06/11/2009, -0/+0I thought you might need it......ur welcome.
- zbeast, on 06/10/2009, -2/+2I think this is a great Idea, if you've ever had to mananged an exchange server for a small
company it sucks.. I would do anything to off load that task elsewhere. - plzhateme, on 06/10/2009, -1/+1The only difference is that most firms require you to use outlook
- empath, on 06/10/2009, -2/+1I don't think most firms care what client you use, they're more stuck on Exchange as the back end. You've got a whole support staff and infrastructure built around managing Exchange, it's hard to just pull the plug on it. And people who make a living managing exchange for enterprises are going to find all kinds of excuses to not switch to google apps.
What google really needs to do is help people get a mixed exchange/apps infrastructure working, so they can set some people up on exchange, some on apps; some people on outlook, some people on the web front-end and everything still interops smoothly. - briLo, on 06/10/2009, -1/+0iOSX = one cool ***** to equate articles to being 'gay stuff'
- briLo, on 06/10/2009, -3/+2"He says that Google is focused on transparency on any issues. And that Google is getting better at managing enterprise customers so that they have less downtime."
Was this the same Google Email service that was down for a couple of days just last month?? - inactive, on 06/10/2009, -2/+0m$ article = gay stuff
- empath, on 06/10/2009, -5/+2I dunno, using an Outlook frontend for gmail seems kinda wrong, somehow.
It's like running Windows Mobile on an iPhone or something. - r00t3d0ut, on 06/10/2009, -7/+2This is a very good move on Google's part but with one (obvious) caveat--single point of failure. I love the idea of cloud computing but the state of bandwidth inside of the United States is so poor that I couldn't recommend this solution to clients until bandwidth improves.
- masterstan, on 06/10/2009, -6/+1can someone put this in english.. without all the images and stuff... I'm having difficulty reading through all of this and making sense of it.
- failedsubmissio, on 06/10/2009, -8/+1Good move by Google.... they did something similar a few weeks ago with Hotmail and Yahoo --> http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/05/13/stuck-on-hotm ...
- andre1987, on 06/10/2009, -9/+0soon google will release even the operating system)))
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