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- Simen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+79Maybe it's a code of some sort....
You should write a book. - duxor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Worth a look for the use of the brilliant word "zoomify" alone.
- caffiend, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Really does look like a woman (Mary) to Jesus' right when you can zoom in like this. Still can't place that lone hand with the knife either.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"Well, I'm off to the Louvre to look for "something" ( if you have read the Davinci code, then you understand)."
I already went,let me save you a trip...it was just a "Waldo" doll with a note that said "Congratulations" - asdren, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17never bring a knife to a God fight
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14This is better than visiting it.
I was visiting Venice and decided to make the train trip to Milan to see the Last Supper. I made it all the way there, went to the church, bought my entrance ticket, asked them where it was and got directions to it, walked over there and the freaking thing was covered in black velvet.. couldn't see it at all. It was only then that they decided to tell me that it was only viewable certain days of the week.
You know what a bummer it is to be standing next to one of the world's greatest pieces of artwork and not be able to see it.. knowing that your chances of ever being there again are rather slim? It sucked. - kevinmtu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10a little bit of history for you all as well....from about.com
Why doesn't Jesus have any feet?
Rest assured, Leonardo intended for Christ to have feet and, in fact, painted them. Around 1650, some unnamed, woefully misguided soul - on a mission to insert another door into the refectory - apparently decided that the only logical spot for said door was smack dab in the middle of that wall. We probably shouldn't grumble overmuch and just consider ourselves lucky that he wasn't engineering windows.
whoops.... - brhad56, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Sorta like how the bible was written by someone who was not there.
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8It's a temperature/humidity sensor. The room is climate controlled to preserve the fresco.. remember this thing is made of very old plaster. I also discovered, to my chegrin, that they limit it's exposure to light by only allowing viewings on certain days of the week between certain times.
- mushoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Wonderful! Now that you've recognized "The Davinci Code" is a work of fiction, take a break, because it seems like you'll have a harder time in coming to the same conclusion about the bible. Good luck.
- kevinmtu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7before restoration in 1979 http://www.initaly.com/regions/artists/lsup.jpg
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15Let me introduce you to something. It's called the thumbs down button. See it up there to the right? Click that and the bad people go away!!
- TylerDurden0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6That's Jack Bauer. He's about to ask Judas, "WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?!!!"
- Simen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6(Jokes aside)
@ warmonger48:
The DaVinci Code was indeed great fiction. Inspiring to say the least. As a matter of fact it got me to study more of DaVincis works more closely. And, although I obviously was biased at that point, it seemed clear to me that the artist had an agenda indeed. How to interpret those signs however, is open to dispute. - fani, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is just one of several.
http://www.zoomify.com
You're welcome. - Sp00nMan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Hello people.. this is a painting by someone who WAS NOT THERE.. I love how people think this is some sort of factual picture of the last supper. Has absolutely no factual value.
- gorkster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Also, let's not forget that DaVinci painted the Last Supper about 1,500 years after it happened. This painting is his interpretation and shows his artistry and imagination of this event. It isn't like he observed the disciples and Jesus first hand and captured actual nuances of this event. The Last Supper was a common subject for art and DaVinci made his painting unique.
- dashifen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Proof of hoax? Not saying I don't buy that it's a hoax, but if you're going to vilify someone for spreading "facts" the best you could do is try to help others be sure that you aren't doing the same.
- zaren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have always loved QTVR stuff, but this is just another level of wow.
- meatstack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Why is TDC such a big deal? Big enough make sites out of debunking it? It's FICTION. No one started a debunkHollywoodNinjas.com or debunkEarthGirlsAreEasy.com.
Relax, it's just a book/movie. If this really upsets you, make it a double-header with "The Passion of the Christ"
Next stop: Riots because Monty Python puts pictures of God coming out of clouds. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Using the Firefox extension 'LiveHTTPheaders', one can see the source URL for the images contained inside the flash navigator.
Example: http://milano.arounder.com/media/zoomify/IT000005356/TileGroup5/6-31-20.jpg
It appears their naming convention is TileGroupX (where x is 1-6, I think)
and X-XX-XX.jpg, where X is the coordinates for the tile.
If you change the numbers in the above link, you will see a different tile of the image.
Also, and forgive this for being off topic, you can use LiveHTTPheaders to obtain the URL of mp3s that are played through the Pandora interface.
Link to the extension in question: http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/installation.html - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Strangely enough, when I went to the Louvre, I of course went to go see the Mona Lisa. Having read TDC I wanted to see what the pattern of the floor looked like, and see if the Madonna of the rocks was really opposite the Mona Lisa. When I was there, they had moved the Mona Lisa to a different location.. Still in the Denon hall (IIRC) but off to the side of where it usually was, and the Madonna of the Rocks was not opposite it. Also, the floor was rather uninteresting.
It turns out the day I was there they were filming TDC movie. I didn't even know they were making one at the time.
BTW, if you're ever there, check around the corner from the Mona Lisa for a portrait by "Lampi".. it was one of the most haunting images I've ever seen. - djhomeless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Uh, whats with the gray carbon monoxide meter on the wall on the right side of the picture.
- heymark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3when i "zoomify" my myself in, i see that the painting is much more distressed than i ever thought. Interesting, yet sad i guess.
- Dharmamooch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Nobody knows what really happened over 2000 years ago. Please. We will never know. There is nothing (including the bible) that proves anything. It is all about the perception, bias and motive of the person(s) who recorded their version. This includes every person from the person wrote down a gospel 300 years after the supposed event to Dan Brown. If I believed in a particular religion I'd want to foster the "origins" of the religion so that I would be supporting my own beliefs and convincing others to join me. This creates safety in numbers and back then safety was hard to come by and still is in many places. Why people feel the need to convince others to "believe" in their particular religion is a psychological simplicity. Something so ethereal as religion needs to be propped up by something tangible so we have the bible and all of the other human creations that are used to support an illogical belief.
- brhad56, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I think it's funny that people find the need to disprove all the "facts" in Da Vinci Code, yet there's noone that seems to care about the "facts" in Angels & Demons. I suspect it is because in Angels & Demons, they try to save the church as opposed to trying to expose some dirty secret. Many of the people who feel so strongly against the "facts" havn't even read the book. It's like they had a bible study class dedicated to nothing but countering Da Vinci Code references.
Dan Brown has said in interviews that he honestly believes his "facts" to be true. So of course, he is going to present them as being true in the book. It's up to the reader to decide validity of claims. Regardless if you buy into them or not, the book is very entertaining and I am definately going to be there for the opening night of the movie! - tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3digg didn't seem to like my post, here it is without special characters...
First of all, she is called Jesus' "companion" in this text. Some people are quick to bring out (this is in Dan Brown's book) that the Aramaic language has a word for "companion" that means "wife." The problem is that these were written in Coptic, not Aramaic, and they were translated from Greek. The word for "companion" here is a loaned word from a Greek word used in Luke 5:10, where James and John are described as partners in business with Peter. So, "companion," in other words, might not necessarily mean "wife" here. - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Is there a site where they actually have high resolution scans of paintings? Also, it would be easier if they just linked to the picture rather than forcing viewers to zoom around in the web browser.
I guess it would be expensive tho, bandwidthwise. - dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4People like to believe that the Jesus isn't who he said he was. Then they feel justified in not examining the issue for themselves and coming to their own, educated conclusions.
- eyreka, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@ Sp00nMan
"I love how people think this is some sort of factual picture of the last supper"
I hope no one frequenting this site thinks Leonardo was actually there but some do thing he 'inherited' suppressed knowledge.
@ tommajor
"the Bible is extremely accurate in that there have not been any mentionable mistakes"
Neither are there external sources confirming New Testament stories plus, if you're going to accept the books of the New Testament as truth, how about the Gnostic texts suppressed in the mid-2nd and the 3rd centuries. They do seem to have been fairly mainstream in at least some branches of early Christianity. - giveer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Check out Da Vinci's last known painting, 'John the Baptist', if you ever want to see confirmation of Da Vinci's habit of making some male figures look androgynous... because.. whoa.
- jewcantdenyit, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@ Simen, the da vinci code is a work of fiction and should be treated as such.
- warmonger48, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Notice how Jesus has a dark red shirt and dark blue sash(?) and the "woman" has a light blue shirt and light red (pink) sash?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@jkendel,
He's right, The Da Vinci Code is a wonderful book. Yet it is a book of fiction, not a book of fact. Discuss the topic with any theological historian and you will hear the same. That doesn't mean the book can't be a great book and very enjoyable to read, but one should not mistake it for being a book based on historical evidences. - mushoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1thx for the links birdman been looking for something like this for a while.
- haow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1More available at http://www.arounder.com/ Great photos there with amazing details
- deinspanjer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2My thoughts on "The Da Vinci Code" don't matter in the slightest when considering whether to digg this link. It is a fantastic look at a fantastic work of art.
I also like the 3D panoramas. That's come quite a long way since the last time I've looked at one. I especially like the ST:TNG like loading sequence for them. :) - wayjer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Where can I get the wallpaper in this resolution?
- CharlesMay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I saw that too, kind of looked like a digital controller we used to use on Heat Treat furnaces. haven't been able to zoom in on it yet though.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4The counter to that is that John has always been painted as young and "feminin". Others who have painted him and the last supper have also painted him the same way Leonardo did.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it was painted on WET plaster.
- mcewen98, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Is there a site where they actually have high resolution scans of paintings? Also, it would be easier if they just linked to the picture rather than forcing viewers to zoom around in the web browser."
Because the original source file could be a 50 or 60 megabyte jpeg2000 file... or they just don't want to distribute images at the maximum resolution. - bingbing, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5No! Pink only became a feminine colour very recently, see:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733 - redeemed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4If you look at the sketches Da Vinci's did before painting (yes they have been preserved) he wrote the name of all the subjects and surprise John is written under John's face
- warmonger48, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Here's how I view Da Vinci Code. There a connect the dots puzzle. Dan Brown connected those dots. If he connected them in the right pattern is what is disputed but the dots (events in history) are there none-the-less....
- elint, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My browser tells me this "Apple Quicktime" software is required ... Is there an image of this rather than something that requires me to install software that will invariably crash my computer? I'd love to see this detailed photo as a static image.
- SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I don't think anybody is claiming to have discovered anything. They are just agreeing with some of the points made in the book.
Sounds like you haven't read the book. - keane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1direct link (no need to click orange 1): http://milano.arounder.com/category/fullscreen/IT000005356.html
- tommajor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2in addition to what t0pher has said... there are very few manuscripts available of, for example, the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas. I have personally read the Gospel of Judas, and it is filled with spots that say there are a certain amount of lines of text missing. So, the gnostic gospels don't have much going for them...
1. there's not nearly as much manuscript support for them (last I heard was 1 or 2 for the Gospel of Thomas). compare that with thousands of manuscripts, as I said, for the four accepted gospels.
2. The manuscripts we do have are laiden with missing sections that just make it even more difficult to understand what is being said. - artofwar420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1*apocalypsis background music*
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