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Allofmp3 to be closed
ustr.gov — The US and Russia have agreed on actions that Russia will take to address piracy, i.e. shutting down AllofMP3.com (on page 2 on top).
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- amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -3/+242It was only a matter of time... Great link to the source instead of some random blog!
- mttcee, on 10/12/2007, -34/+13i think they'll will move the server location, put a new skin on (compare alltunes) and that's it.
- jeromeerome, on 10/12/2007, -37/+15I agree. This will end up being a big waste of time. If AOMP3 is shutdown they will simply relocate and be back up and running in less than a week. Much like we witnessed with The Pirates Bay earlier this year.
- CasaMan, on 10/12/2007, -11/+64@mttcee/jeromeerome
AllOfMp3 is a normal company, not some underground site like TPB.
They can't say "a well, let's pack our things and move to [insert country here]".
This requires some serious planning for at least some months. - Winters, on 10/12/2007, -18/+94Makes me think of fark "having solved all other problems" line.
Does not the US have better things to do? We are at war after all. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -13/+37"The allofmp3.com staff have been summarily poised and their servers removed," Putin said, "We're unsure of how but look forward to better relations with our DRM overlords."
- Aewheros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40TPB is not an underground site, they put back new servers at the same racks the old were taken from. They are hosted by a normal webhost.
- garreh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20@CasaMan and if they were smart, they would have already been planning such a move for months by now, as this has been going on for a while.
And if the TPB can do it, I have no doubt allofmp3 CAN do it. It's if they will or not. I think not, though. :) - 955701, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31@casaman
Planning they are almost certain to have started over a year ago while being threatened by authorities. Either than or even worse: They'll eject their entire music library onto said offshore server as a massive middle finger to the RIAA & others.
Can you imagine *their* library as a torrent feed and on the peer to peer networks? - jus1haz2, on 10/12/2007, -15/+78PDF WARNING!
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -21/+9TPB is also a legit company!
- CandidateZero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+79It's nice to see the RIAA using national governments as a hatchetman of its own agenda.
- djlosch, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37what tpb and allofmp3 are doing is totally legal in their countries. allofmp3 was using a legal loophole in their distribution/compensation law. tpb was linking to infringing material, which is not illegal in sweden, even systematically. hell, in sweden, merely in the 1990s, copying for any non-commercial use was fully legal, but some US lobbied swedish politicians changed that law. the RIAA lobbied US politicians to throw some elbows with the WTO to get russia to change the law.
tpb and allofmp3 arent evil thieves - they're smarter, faster, and better than the *AAs at their own game. both sprung up out of nowhere with little funding, while the *AAs have had countless complete failures. hell, the best things the *AAs have are ITMS and emusic, and tpb/allofmp3 are still vastly superior. - glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12I agree it was bound to crappen sooner or later. I am just happy with my Napster subscription and a simple conversion tool to get that DRM crap off. Although it does sadden me to see how much pull the RIAA has worldwide...
- handband2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12In one corner we have the RIAA:
http://www.riaa.com/News/newsletter/021306.asp
In the other corner we have Allofmp3:
http://www.allofmp3.com/press/centre.shtml?s=993&d=18191974
Let ANOTHER battle begin!! - skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47Okay then! Back to pirating from Bit Torrent sites. Great job RIAA! You've effectively removed a potential source of your own income.
- bowels, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34Good. I was tired of swiping pennies from the penny tray at the qwik-mart in order to cover my Allofmp3 bill. Now I will just go back to using free p2p.
- JimV, on 10/12/2007, -14/+33I truly despise the sentence "Doesn't the US government have better things to do? We ARE at war." As if the US government should stop functioning and every department put on hold because there's fighting going on in Iraq. The DoD and Pentagon aren't putting things on hold in Iraq to go after copyright violators in Russia. It's not their job. There are other departments in the govt that do that. And those other departments have no affect on what happens in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country we are at conflict with. Should the govt stop paying student financial aid, paying social security, collecting taxes, etc because we're at war?
I didn't think so. - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Never used them, but here are some clones:
www.mp3search.ru
www.mp3sugar.com - matthewaaron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"Fighting Internet Piracy
• The United States and Russia agreed on the objective of shutting down websites that permit
illegal distribution of music and other copyright works. The agreement names the Russia-based
website allofmp3.com as an example of such a website.
• Russia will:
- take enforcement actions against the operation of Russia-based websites; and
- investigate and prosecute companies that illegally distribute copyright works on the Internet.
• Russia will work to enact legislation by June 1, 2007, to stop collecting societies from acting
without right holder consent,
• Russia will also work to enact legislation implementing the 1996 World Intellectual Property
Organization (WIPO) Internet treaties." - jerickson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+40The sad thing is the RIAA probably still doesn't understand that the average customer of AllOfMp3.com was more willing to purchase more music than any other music store because they could get the music in the format THEY want without all that DRM that locks you into a single format/vender.
- j0c1f3r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12such BS has to stop....people dont understand this "rich get richer" scam...WE MUST STAND UP AND REVOLT AGAINST.....oh nevermind....
- compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I almost wanted to buy this as lame, just because it's so lame that this is happening...
- sinurgy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10If I were the people in charge of AllofMP3.com, I'd leave a nice parting shot in the form of the entire AllofMP3.com library "accidentally" finding it's way on to the various bit torrent networks!
- jakeadams, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Boris Yeltsin wouldn't of stood for this!
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Does not the US have better things to do? We are at war after all"
Yeah like wiretapping its citizens and dodging questions like "where in our consitution does it say that taxes are mandatory by law?"
- mttcee, on 10/12/2007, -34/+13i think they'll will move the server location, put a new skin on (compare alltunes) and that's it.
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -35/+14::::: PDF ::::::
Those using Foxit PDF reader don't have to worry about it, but for those stuck with Adobe... you've been warned.- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -33/+23Or those with Macs, no problems.
- dareiff, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20Didn't have a problem at all with adobe, btw.
And damn. Allofmp3 was almost legit. And by almost I mean I felt better about spending about 40 bucks there... - gootdude, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7or those whose computers don't suck, no problems either.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -29/+10drlha I'm sure you were enjoying the smell of your own fart as you typed that.
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -22/+23i've never had problems with adobe.
time to upgrade your piece of *****. - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10sockpuppet: I can see the cloud of smug forming above my head right now.
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2Haha.. "spending" .. rather feeding the russian mob ..
- PRlME, on 10/12/2007, -12/+10um fox is better then adobe -=)
i wont even wast my time telling you why....i'm just going to lets u suckers be
- Iffrat, on 10/12/2007, -38/+20everyone knew that site was illegal as could be... so i dont think anyone was shocked when this was let out.
- Omega697, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32There is a difference between "illegal" and "against the will of the copyright holders." You should learn the difference.
- Jak231, on 10/12/2007, -16/+177All your mp3 are belong to US!
- SpoBo, on 10/12/2007, -37/+3All of mp3 are belong to RIAA is more like it. or perhaps even Russia .. or even democracy.
- GravyTrain6, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25I hope everyone else can appreciate the humor in that line.
- glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3@SpoBo :
NUB ! - ExSlashdotter, on 10/12/2007, -6/+57In soviet russia, the...
Oh, never mind... - ScornForSega, on 10/12/2007, -11/+52No, no, go ahead.
"In Soviet Russia, the mp3s DRM you!" - soapboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27"In United States, you shut down US companies. In Soviet Russia, United States shuts down YOU!"
- ScottAG, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7All your balance are belong to us!
- bdrydyk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Set us up the lawsuit!
- cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The should have been call "All Of No DRM.com" - that's why I gave them $$...
- tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, mp3 means no DRM. The reason they were patronized was because they had no DRM, just mp3's.
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -35/+6Obligatory:
"In Soviet Russia, Greedy Capitalists Shut You Down."
Or something like that...- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31You actually have to reverse something to make that work, Forrest.
- dontera, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7@sockpuppets
Seeing as my name is Forrest, I was left for a few seconds wondering how the hell you were talking to me when I hadn't even commented on this article.
Still can't get used to the Gump jokes... - aluminumpork, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5My name is Forrest too! We must unite forces in the battle against Forrest Gump jokes!
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31You actually have to reverse something to make that work, Forrest.
- billflu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+83Maybe "real" online music vendors should remove DRM and lower prices (below $.99/song) This is what made allofmp3.com so popular.
- egingras, on 10/12/2007, -1/+76For me it was the option for higher than 128kb/s songs, not the price.
- jcapogna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24But with allofmp3 out of the way, they can still charge high prices for content that you don't really own.
- djdocremixed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Why would they do that? Now there is no legal(-ish) competition to DRM plagued music sites.
- MaVeRiCK42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2How about just selling in USD all over the world. The record companies are based in the US, so it wouldn't matter whether the exchange rate varied.
I believe the current iTunes song price in the UK is still 79p or £1.53. - davebushe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23www.emusic.com
- JAWS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1^^davebuche
XXX downloads/month is NOT a good deal. I want to pay what I want, when I want. Subscriptions-types suck. DRM sucks. RIAA sucks.
- dscx, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Does this mean http://www.mp3sugar.com is going too? :( Noooooooooooooooo!
- PhrosTT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I'm not too well read on this matter.... Does this mean the shutdown of Alltunes as well?
- plusmedia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's the same company so I imagine so.
- xavier01, on 10/12/2007, -10/+11Nooooo!!
allofmp3 was a great source for music but to be honest we all knew it wouldn't last.
RIP- kbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I still have money left on my balance. I just logged in and it says I can't refill my balance. But can I still spend my money? Or is that going to go away too? I guess I'll be spending the rest of my balance as soon as possible.
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just come in from a proxy or vpn server and you'll be able to order; your IP just needs to show from outside the US.
(Take a look at relakks.com) - Ahnteis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Spammedy Spam Spam Spam.
I had no credit card trouble with AllOfMP3.com, but I DID get LOADS of spam from them. Luckily, I used that email only for their site, so I just disabled it.
- dustyshadow, on 10/12/2007, -25/+9Never understood why anyone would buy from that site anyways... The only reason to buy music these days is to support the artist and buying from that site did none of that. You may as well just download the music from bittorrent or other sources.
p.s. yes i know buying from regular sources doesnt help the artist much but it least it counts as an album sale.- dscx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13There are certain situations where you cant use bittorrent/p2p effectivly (firewall?), and also the quality of stuff on allofmp3 is generally superior thanks to online/custom encoding. However I'm sure most people use the site because they believe it to be legal, which I assume is what you were driving at.
- brbubba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I forgot, because buying music in retail or at the apple store actually goes to support artists. If you want to support an artist you like, go to their concert.
- paperhat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Convenience and a large catalog was the key for allofmp3. If somebody wanted a 256 or higher mp3 of an album that wasn't currently on billboard, it was much easier to find it on allofmp3 than torrent.
- Nysul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48Uhg, now I am going to have to resort to shader ways of getting music. There is no way I am going to:
1) buy entire CDs for 2-3 decent songs
2) buy $1 tracks that are low bitrate and have DRM- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Agreed. I've been using AllofMP3 for a while now, and it's just an all-around great music service.
Guess I'll be going back to using BitTorrent while I wait for a reasonable way to purchase music. - glmory, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, I have bought maybe 5 CDs in my life. They are not worth it by any means. If I can't download without risk ill listen to internet radio stations. They are still quite free, and much better than the crap you get on any other non XM radio stations.
- doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+301 - Don't buy DRM
2 - Don't BUY drm
3 - DON'T buy drm
4 - DON'T BUY DRM!!!
Go to your local library and check out the CDs that you like. Listen to them (or whatever else you feel like doing with them). Return them to the library. You already paid for the right to listen to that music by paying your taxes. Fair use says that you have certain rights to that music. Take advantage of it. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Paying allofmp3.com for your music is no less shady than downloading from a p2p network. It's just more convenient.
- shakeeb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8My local library doesn't have the latest hardcore/metalcore CDs. :[
- bubba9999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Phong-torrent is a shader method of getting music.
- BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Agreed. I've been using AllofMP3 for a while now, and it's just an all-around great music service.
- lordmetroid, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6I find this outrageous... Companies and governments taking liberties and censoring the Internet! I can not accept this!
- thebrokenlight, on 10/12/2007, -2/+91AllofMP3.com shut down? Well then, back to pirating music.
- dancurranjr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I already have Limewire fired back up. Sad, because I spent a LOT of money at AllOfMp3.com -- anyone know of another DECENT pay for music site?
- dpchi, on 10/12/2007, -26/+4Umm... I think you are confused. "Buying" music on allofmp3 is not going to help the artist. As far as they care, allofmp3 is worse than piracy because it puts $ in the pockets of the pirates.
- redington, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If you're into jazz, classical or independent music there is always emusic.com
Unfortunately they increased the price per track about a week ago. - doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12@dpchi
The RIAA and Labels don't give the artists any money either. Which pirates are worse? The ones that *legally* make 20 times as much as the ones that aren't "legalized"? Besides, Allofmp3 sends that required money to the Russian government (kind of like not paying the IRS. but it's Russian!). It's the Russian government that doesn't send it on to the copyright holder (who is not the artist in MOST ALL cases). - mike17032, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2On the plus side, maybe this will improve the quality of what I am able to find on Limeware. It just hasent seemed to have the selection that it used to.
- ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If you want choices of formats (mp3 m4a wma and flac) and lack of DRM there is http://musicishere.com
They don't have a huge library, but they're growing and it's a start. - morilo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with Arthur, www.musicishere.com seems to become a nice place.
- JAWS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://musicishere.com/
whois:
Riga, Lavtia......Anybody know what Lavtia's copyright is like? Maybe the country's too small for the ass-hats at RIAA to find?
- ibeetle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+69Wow... a single website brought the entire World Trade Organization to its knees.
Something every terrorist in the world could not do. Hear that Al Qaeda. Want to bring the U.S. down? Open up a music download site.- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+59Sometimes I think if Osama Bin Laden was running a P2P website on the site to fund Al Quaida, he would have been captured and sued years ago.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Can I just point out what a fantastic idea that is..
If only terrorists would realise that they actually would achieve more, by choosing forms of economic terror (targeted at our rulers, who we can't sway) than murder aimed at us (who can't do ***** about their beliefs/opinions/problems)... I always thought just slowing down traffic on a major motorway once every hour for a week would be so much more effective, and actually get people listening...
anyhow
It is true - I just used allofMp3 explorer on my comp, and it wont download (was going to squeeze my last credt out).. - drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26You don't think an attack on the World Trade Center was an attack on our economy? Plus look how much money the US is throwing away because of 9/11. They're attacking our economy all right.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -22/+8Excuse me?!
Afghanistan has got ***** all to do with 9/11, nor Iraq. God you're not one of those morons are you?
What's up with your economy is all the one brain-celled rightwing fanboys who voted for a neocon crook, who - with his cronies, has ***** your country sideways for God knows how long.
You are a moron - I mean, this is a small point I make about how it would be better for people to make (sometimes very valid points) in an appropriate manner - such as social disobedience, rather than using evil violence, and you - hit me with the 9/11 stick.
***** man - you work for fox news? Bush administration? Microsoft Zune? - justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -22/+4Though I'm glad you acknowledge exon Mobil. Sorry Haliburton. Sorry - that's it: you're government are throwing money away [On the war(s)].
How many people don't get proper health care or proper education in your country because of the money that's gone down the pan there?
No need even speculating what side of the give-a-*****-about-anyone-except-your-self-and-perhaps-the-church-that-brain-washes-you-be-it-media-or-some-whack-religion fence you sit on. - wild, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@ justgeorge,
I really got a pleasure out of being the digg that pushed your comment below the viewing threshold. :) - justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3Well if it's just that you whack off when you do that kind of *****, then you've got problems.
However - I did think about it, and if I caused offence with the last sentence, which in hindsight was silly - then I apologise for mixing something silly with the rest of the point.
However - my point stands.
That guys was insinuating all of this money had been wasted on counter terrorism - I still stand by my point- he' talking ***** - if anything George w Bush has made the world a far unsafer place.
For ***** sake? How can George Bush ***** up 2 countries (4 if you include the israel *****) possibly be an economic attack on your country by terrorists.
I pity my good American friends, coz they too acknowledge that there are far too many ***** imbeciles in your country - you'd have to be totally mad to actually support any of these wars.. I mean - there's people in your country who beleive saddam hussein is connected with 9/11 - there are people who when asked to point out iraq on a map point at France (which is kinda funny but)... are you one of those? - badxmaru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The stupid idiotic thing is that we continue to trade with China, and we don't press on them to obey WIPO / stupid IP rules because we buy so much stuff from them. Russia is just being targetted. They should move AllofMP3 to kazahkstan and join Borat.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2@wild
Oh and I enjoyed getting rid of your comment too (came as a surprise, and wasn't my intention - but thinking about it - my points are actually discussing - you're just telling everyone you shot your load while replaying the responses you've been prorgrammed - bye bye robotboy). - jaydj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@justgeorge
Glad to see you are doing your part to promote peace.
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- galupo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I guess it's time for them to move there servers off shore
- shodson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Sealand
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand - edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Sealand was gutted by a fire in June.
http://www.sealandgov.org/
Waitaminute...
ZOMG! RIAA conspiracie!!11eleventyone! - paradoxic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.bobleroi.co.uk/ScrapBook/Sealand_Fire/Sealand_Fire.html
shows pics and more details of the fire.
- shodson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Sealand
- WOTEugene, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4They'll just host it somewhere in the Caymen Islands once their operation gets shut down in Russia.
- americamatrix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+29To be honest,
I feel more people would buy their music from a site like this, then a site like iTunes.
I also feel there would be less pirating of music due to the lower prices.
Why would anyone bother pirating music that
1) It might be a bad rip
2) The ID3 Tags might be messed up
3) It might be the totally wrong song/album you were looking for.
Granted yes it is free, but if you use a site like this, you know the the rip will be done well, the ID3 tags/song/album will be correct.
This site wasn't illegal. It is only illegal in the eyes of the RIAA. This site was about having fair prices for music that we enjoy listening to.
I wish the US would smarten up and have a system like this. They would make a lot more bank (due to more people buying music, because of the lower prices), and there would definitely be a decline in the amount of music pirated.
Not to mention, I hate corporations telling me where and how I can listen to music that I BUY. . .
Perhaps this what the music industry here needs? A site like this?
Gonna miss Allofmp3...Sad to see a good idea go. . .- slickrick2k1, on 10/12/2007, -19/+1You're a joke. Allofmp3 was not illegal? That's a joke. You, and your assertions, are jokes.
- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7its true that the only 20 dollars I have spent on music in the past five years was on their site. If music wasn't so overpriced many of us would spend much more on it.
Other than that I will listen to internet radio for free and say screw you record industry. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@ slickrick2k1
Pray tell how was AllOfMP3 illegal under Russian law? There were serious questions about the legality of Americans "importing" music from the site, but that only puts the actions of customers in doubt, not the site itself.
It is widely accepted that the site was legal in Russia, although not intentionally so. They skated by on laws meant to make life easy for radio stations and were ill suited to handle Internet distribution. There *were* some questions about whether AllOfMP3 had paid sufficient fees to ROMS, but again that wouldn't affect the basic premise, just their accounting methods. - modestmouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, I think we need like a wal-mart version of iTunes. Higher profits through increased volume. Good for the consumer and the industry.
- EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You mean like this?
http://musicdownloads.walmart.com/catalog/servlet/MainServlet
I don't think they're doing well.
- spraguep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well they have to change their laws before the site will become illegal. If they simply strong arm the site into closing another could just open up later and it would be irrelevant because they will already be a WTO member.
On a side note I love the part about the drug companies:
"Protecting Pharmaceutical Test Data
• Russia will work to enact legislation by June 1, 2007, to protect undisclosed information (such as test data) submitted to obtain marketing approval of pharmaceuticals.
• Russia has proposed legislation that would provide a period of protection of at least six years."
So no one is allowed to see the test data of clinical drug trials for at least 6 years after the drug has been selling on the market? Sounds like they have something to hide.... - drowningfish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14/smirks
Here's to the next allofmp3.com clone in some other Country. . .cheers and good-luck - jihadjohnson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18This is just more proof that the RIAA owns the American Goverment (or a large part of it)
- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4This is just proof that some out there actually cares about artist's being properly compensated.
No matter how much you bitch and whine, you don't have a 'right' to demand music/movies/etc for free. - spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6-This is just proof that some out there actually cares about the recording companies to keep to being overly compensated.
There, fixed it for you. - EtherGnat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe not but we have a right to complain that they won't sell us a useful, non-crippled product at a reasonable price.
- akinder, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4This is just proof that some out there actually cares about artist's being properly compensated.
- inturnaround, on 10/12/2007, -15/+6Back to USENET, everyone!
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14The first rule of USENET is:
(guess) - vvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "USE NET". MOVE ALONG, CITIZENS.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14The first rule of USENET is:
- RubberbandLN6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13It actually doesn't say that allofmp3 will be shut down, it's just "they agreed on the objective of shutting down websites that permit illegal distribution" and they will take enforcement actions, but who actually knows when that is going to happen. It could be days or it could be years, who knows? I really doubt this is the last of allofmp3 anyways, they are bound to find more loopholes.
- scotoma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@RubberbandLN6
From the pdf
"Fighting Internet Piracy
• The United States and Russia agreed on the objective of shutting down websites that permit illegal distribution of music and other copyright works. The agreement names the Russia-based website allofmp3.com as an example of such a website."
its a sad day. - ExSlashdotter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Yeah, well try to go order something... Trust me, its shut down.
- Murphys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Use AllTunes and force the d/l. It just worked for me.
- adinb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, to US IP addys, at least.
- scotoma, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@RubberbandLN6
- dashiel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19if the moronic, music industry, moguls understood that music is now a commodity item and not a special or prized object like it was 15-20 years ago, they would adopt the allofmp3 business model immediately.
kids today have so many more options on where to spend their money, video games, movies, dvds, ipods, ring tones, etc... that the value proposition of an $18 CD just isn't enough.
anecdotally, i know of many people who regularly spend $50 and more a month at allofmp3, but haven't spent $50 this year on CDs or iTunes. it's not that they don't have the money, it's the cost associated with music is too high. i know, complaining about the price of something doesn't mean it should be cheaper, but if the record companies are faced with a $50 a year or $500 a year proposition even if it means selling 5000 songs instead of 50, doesn't that makes sense, economically?
selling things cheap enough would pretty much eliminate piracy too. why would i bother with bit-torrent to download X song, when i can get it for 15-cents. sure some piracy would still exist, but you're never going to get rid of it.- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1well thanks for letting me know - fairplay - guess I was trolling a bit there.
and Microsoft do loads of good stuff as well - I actually love working with their stuff.
STILL HATE DRM (in it's current raping the consumer form).
Thanks - I guess it is narrowminded to write that.
Sorry for any offence - especially to employees.
oh and this is a reply to BevansDesign. Sorry it's in the wrong place.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1well thanks for letting me know - fairplay - guess I was trolling a bit there.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -36/+5Hey... guys.. just thought...
Isn't it weird that they've been trying to shut this site down forever, but it's only when M$ enters the market with it's ***** zune player that the industry suddenly has the weight to sort it out..
Jesus - are they that desperate for the business? Do they really think I'll go and buy a Zune now!? ***** YOU M$ - You brown brick, ***** DRM-Fanboy nazis trying to stifle creativity the world over.. "Welcome to the social" - doublethink or what!?.. what's social about DRM - you ***** sucking losers. At least Bill gates gives money to charity.
Do you know what - I'm bald - and it's people like steve ballsner who give us baldies (and other human beings) a bad name... Wankers!- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1just pointing out a coincidence - I think it's people who buy Zune's who are idiots, btw, because they fund this DRM witch-hunting crap.
We need some middle ground here. AllofMp3 was snide - and didn't pay musicians, but this new DRM, $.99 a tune business is crap. It's totally unjustifiable. Do the math, for God sake.. they don't produce anything mechanical..
If we don't get change this situation soon - we'll be giving them a license to print money.
And you might think I'm an idiot, but we'll see who's the ***** idiot when music costs a bomb and is traced, along with your entire musical catalogue, censored, prohibited and controlled thanks to the likes of steve ballsner... - BevansDesign, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Dugg down for use of "M$".
Oh, and everything else that's stupid about your post. - halik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wow the o/p is psychotic...
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1just pointing out a coincidence - I think it's people who buy Zune's who are idiots, btw, because they fund this DRM witch-hunting crap.
- shodson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Good thing I bought 4 albums last week and drained my balance down to $0.60
- tpodr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Coming sooner than we think? For the last couple of days, when I go to refill my balance, I get the message:
"We are sorry, but you cannot refill your balance at the moment. Please try again later."
Is it just me? Someone in the states, please check and let me know.- LetsRok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I was just able to add to my balance as well as download music from allofmp3.com. No problems what so ever.
- frobozzcompany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Imperialist pigopolists. Bah!
Is this really the will of the American people?
How would Americans like it if the UN enforced the verdicts of the International Criminal Court in The Hague? There'd be murder and mayhem, I reckon. - Dou6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The greedy RIAA could have worked with the Russian music federation or whatever it was to receive the royalty payments. Since they refused the payment, because they refused to recognize the "russian RIAA" they got nothing.
What AOMP3 does, certainly has a market, and for savvy customers, this is the kind of price and service they demand, to prevent them from using peer to peer. All the RIAA has done is driven 90% of AOMP3's customers back to peer to peer.
At some point, these idiots are going to realize they either need to increase the quality of the product to justify the price, or lower the price. Times have changed, but the RIAA and other AA's refuse to. Couple changing demands with the fact that artists are now able to directly market and sell their music, and these old suits are scared to death. - cwestpha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17NOOOOOOO!
AllofMP3.com was the way how purchesses should have been. You get to chose the format, bitrate, and you get a flat charge based on the size of the file sent to you. I bought tons of songs off of that service because it was so flexible. I would gladly pay 50 cents or more for a 5 min song in an MP3 @ 192 kbps. it was the best. - Electrox3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i'd rather just buy my non-drm'd music than get it free from usenet, but if i must i must. also more brilliant sites like pandorasmusicbox will be hacked even moreso when non-drm music can't be easliy purchased.
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2at least usenet has quality rips and no uploading required
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ah well...
I'll stick with my usenet with SSL... no way to track me and no logs kept :D
Even though I didnt purchase much, I checked the site almost every day to see new releases.- mav73, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'm not sure what SSL has to do with anything. How are you certain that you aren't being tracked? TOR?
- ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well, the SSL encrypts everything between giganews and my computer. My ISP cannot see what I am downloading, and Giganews does not keep any logs other than the amount of data downloaded, which determines nothing.
- diggumjonez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3still downloading via the website okay. time to stock up I guess.
- ExSlashdotter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just went to use up the remaining balance in my account, and it looks like the ordering is shut down.
If I can't get the money back, fine with me. As long as they use it to move to another country an reopen. - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3And whats their penalty if they take your money and run?
Don't expect to get it back.
- ExSlashdotter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just went to use up the remaining balance in my account, and it looks like the ordering is shut down.
- nogoodreason, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14I think I speak for more than a few people here when I say:
"Ah well. Back to Limewire."
Give me a legal site that offers choose-your-own-bitrate, un-DRM'd mp3 files at reasonable prices and I'll be the first to sign up. But as the RIAA have no qualms about using the US Government as their own personal attack dog I somehow doubt we'll be seeing one anytime soon.
R.I.P Good Music.- shark72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Give me a legal site that offers choose-your-own-bitrate, un-DRM'd mp3 files at reasonable prices and I'll be the first to sign up."
Try magnatunes.com. MP3, OGG, FLAC, AAC support. You get to choose how much you pay (as low as $5 for an album). You're allowed to make copies (this is the honor system, as there's no DRM, of course). And best of all, the artists get 50% of the sale. NOTHING goes to the RIAA, as magnatunes is not an RIAA member.
Then again, "reasonable" is relative and I'm sure that many people reading this will reply with something like "those greedy evil bastards want me to pay $5 for an album? I'm using Limewire." But understand that unlike allofmp3, magnatunes.com actually pays musicians, pays them handsomely, and only distributes music with the artist's permission. - nogoodreason, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@ shark72
Thanks for the link. Obviously their library is nowhere near comparable to allofmp3's (which was vastly superior to MSN Music and iTunes UK anyday), but a lot better than nothing.
I had to smile when I saw their "we are not evil" logo! - morilo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Give me a legal site that offers choose-your-own-bitrate, un-DRM'd mp3 files at reasonable prices and I'll be the first to sign up. "
http://musicishere.com is the place. You can have flac, mp3, ogg vorbis, etc and no DRM.
- shark72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Give me a legal site that offers choose-your-own-bitrate, un-DRM'd mp3 files at reasonable prices and I'll be the first to sign up."
- venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Why didn't they just up their prices to $0.99?
- C0D3R, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@ Why didn't they just up their prices to $0.99?
Because they'd also have to cut a deal with recording companies and add DRM?
- C0D3R, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@ Why didn't they just up their prices to $0.99?
- o2o2o2o2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15 ...............:::::::: IN OTHER NEWS :::::::.............
Iran welcomes allofmp3.com to setup servers in their country. In a statement released by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, he states:
"We have nothing to loose by helping allofmp3.com and everything to gain. We welcome new business. The USA hates us already and I would also like to see the president Bush's face when he hears we are partnering with people who pirate american music such as that dirty little Britney Spears"- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, this wouldn' t surprise me one bit. I don't think there is a damn thing we could do if Iran, North Korea, or some similar state took hold of this company.
- wowbagger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Fundamental flaw in your plan, pardon the pun.
Iran is attempting to ban music from their armpit country, thanks to the crazed Islamo idiots.
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I believe I can summarize the digg community's emotions:
*****.- wowbagger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I thought "***** great !" had at least one syllable the same.
- x3nos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4crap. I still have credits there - use em or lose em I guess.
- JiggNJive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I dislike DRM (in it's present form) as much as the next guy, but what is really crap about allofmp3 is that they didn't pay royalties to the copyright owners. Sure, they use the excuse that they pay some radio-license(?) fee to Russian ROMs, but that's bullcrap - and everyone knows it.
Please sell music online, but sell it on equal terms. Equal terms = both for the producer as well as the consumer. Songs DRM:ed to hell, with lower quality than pirated copies doesn't belong in today's consumer market. No scare-tactics will ever change the piracy behaviour of the masses.
On the other hand; Sites like allofmp3 that are stealing royalties from the artists doesn't belong in the market either.
There are many indie labels that have understood the power of the Internet, without DRM and with high quality. I don't mind DRM, as long as it is fair use and not crippling the product I buy. - gene0915, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2***** the ri ASS of amerika! It's so sad to see that corporations run the us of a. Our ***** sucking, worthless politicians being bought and sold right in front of our eyes. It's so weird to see that a MAJOR sticking point to allowing Russia into the WTO is them shutting down a ***** mp3 site. ***** me that's nuts! Has anyone taken a look at the countries that are already part of the WTO? China....yeah, no piracy there.... Albania, ethnic cleansing anyone? Cuba, dictatorship. Rwanda, death squads. Yeah, the WTO sure does have some high standards and only allows in the finest of countries.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Dude be careful.
there's some fundamental Christian weirdos on this board who think Osama bin laden is committing MP3 piracy in Iraq - they nailed jesus to a cross - so Lord above knows what they'll do to you if they catch you talking like that.
- justgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Dude be careful.
- Pelapp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Anybody enquired about what happens to the remaining balance ?
- zorpedo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I think it gets added to all the leftover zune points, to buy Bill a new boat for Christmas.
- JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2all $0.05 of it?
- Pelapp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm slow, so i still got about $40 in there, and there's not really 10 albums I want to download. So a payout would be better than just loosing it...
- zorpedo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Gee thanks, Uncle Sam. And in time for Christmas.
- firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2iFanboys weep in the streets as their main source for pirate music is shut down.
welcome to subscriptions. - o2o2o2o2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Part 2:
a) Russia is to stop poisoning people with rare radioactive substances.
b) And oh yeah, shut down allofmp3.com. - GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Sometimes I wonder if a social democracy is really the only true path to salvation.
- JockTroll, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2So, nerdinhos, where are your defiant words now? Where's your bravado? Where's that nonsense about Russia "having nukes", like Russia would resort to nuclear conflict to protect an MP3-dealing site?
How does it feel, to be crushed again and again?
How does it feel, to see once again Big Money taking a bite off your beloved internet, while you wring your hands, powerless?
How does it feel, to wait for the inevitable - full commercialization of the internet and suppression of any not corporate-approved content - without being able to do anything about it?
You've been defeated, once again. Geekdom woes while Money celebrates. Come on, let's hear some more self-deceiving nonsense as you try to ignore that steaming pile of warm ***** on your faces.- Dawnspire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Uhh, "Big Money" doesnt get *****, because now we all just download it for free.
- Brandondork, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I would consider myself a "veteran" with Allofmp3 going on a little over 3 years (when Kazaa was pointless and morpheous was.. well pointless too). Spending about $600 bucks. I always thought they paid the artist - atleast whats what they said - but I am sad to see it go. Our wonderful country with our all mighty dollar is worth so much I like the the fact we get "more for our buck" when buying from other countries. Buying music from Allofmp3 is the same as going to Mexico to buy.. well anything. It's sad to see it go. Anyone have an comments or complaints about "Mp3sugar"? From what I read it's a flat rate $35 charge and every song is $0.15
- timtimes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same here. Many $$$. No problems. Always figured I could cancel my credit card if I had any problems. Never had any. Best service out there.
I'm not too shook up about it though. I bought most of the stuff I already owned on vinyl, tape or CD that had been lost or self destructed over the years (that is: I REBOUGHT all the stuff...)
As far as new music goes....well I'll bet I can't even identify one song on the top 50 anymore so I guess I'm not the core demographic. lol.
Enjoy.
- timtimes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Same here. Many $$$. No problems. Always figured I could cancel my credit card if I had any problems. Never had any. Best service out there.
- ericcire, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2In Soviet Russia, All Of MP3 belong to US.
- hamstereater, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0i laughed
- guice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Well, that's a blow against consumer rights and freedom of choice. Sad.
- firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Just curious....
aren't you guys worried that you're giving personal financial information to the russian mob? i was tempted to fill my balance until i saw that i had to enter my credit card info and personal address.
talk about a future nightmare. how are buyers getting around this?- ericcire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I've given them about US$500 and haven't been screwed yet. They're honest in my book.
- glmory, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Safety in numbers... If anything big did happen that involved that many credit cards it would be picked up fast, so your personal risk isn't that big.
- firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1no...I don't mean that they'll take the money you added...i mean, "what about giviing the russian mob your financial information."
what about credit identity theft? these guys could stay out of sight for 3 years and then start going on a shopping spree with everyone's credit....***** up your credit history.
isn't this risky as hell? - phubaba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3any online company you buy from can do that. people from russia are no worse than people from any of country hosting their sites in america.
- dgp1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"what about credit identity theft? these guys could stay out of sight for 3 years and then start going on a shopping spree with everyone's credit....***** up your credit history."
The credit card numbers would (on average) mostly be expired by then. Plus, I use Citi Virtual Account Numbers for offshore transactions. The number generated by that is one-time-use, and expires next month.
For "Identity Theft" (i.e. opening accounts in your name) they'd need a SSN. Otherwise you could open credit cards just by knowing somebody's address. That'd be pretty ridiculous.
- alexguyCA, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2DARN! I still had a $6.23 balance. I may never get to use that.
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