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- luchid, on 04/28/2008, -11/+87I hope IE (even 7 and 8) dies a quick but very painful death. It won't be missed.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -10/+70Death to IE. All Hail Firefox.
Opera/Safari Hailing is ok too. - Rotzooi, on 04/28/2008, -8/+32No, Safari is not ok. The rest are, though.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -2/+25I don't care if IE dies. I just want all the developers of forward facing services (who work for i.e. Banks etc.) and develop exclusively for IE to die. Developing for "the majority" isn't good enough.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+22Living in Europe myself i have to say that the only person I know who uses IE is my boss, and he's a numb-nuts.
Even dear old gran uses firefox. - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+21Go Ireland 30% compared to the UKs 19.1%!
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+24On all the windows machines at my office we have not a single microsoft product running, other than windows itself. We use firefox, Thunderbird with Lightning for email and calendaring, openoffice does all our word processing and spreadsheeting, 7zip for archiving, etc etc. We do still have one guy in the office who insists on using Outlook 2000, but since the IT department does not spend money to get new versions of Office, (since you cannot get Outlook separately), he is stuck with that old version of Outlook. Meanwhile the rest of us thunderbird users get access to free addons which he would have to pay to get in Outlook, its funny to watch him squirm when we all get a cool new addon.
I know our office may be ahead of the corporate curve a little, but if we are any indication, I think a trend is forming of people and businesses that do not want to wait 5 years for MS to release a new version of something, only to find that the old version was better and the new version has no new features, other than more 3rd party extensibility so we can "buy" extras that would be free if we didn't use MS products. - LANjackal, on 04/28/2008, -0/+17IE won't die any more than Konqueror will die. MS will still develop for it as it doesn't make sense to ship an OS without a browser, which just may be the single most important app on any desktop these days.
HOWEVER
It's very likely that IE's use as the default browser for most people will continue to decline aggressively. FF could really take the cake if Mozilla developed tools for managing FF installations on corporate networks similar to what MS has for IE, but everything I've read suggests that's nowhere near reality - killbert24, on 04/28/2008, -5/+20The release of Firefox 3 looms closer and closer with every minute that passes.
- stutimandal, on 04/28/2008, -2/+17I have a small website, but about 52% people use Firefox for coming to my website. It is a non-technical website on poetry. Hope the flame remains alive.
- grimward, on 04/28/2008, -0/+14Yeah, it's amazing that the higher on the corporate importance scale you go, the less IT intelligence you find. It's sort of like a dilbert principle, but with geekdom :P
- BXRWXR, on 04/28/2008, -3/+17No it wouldn't.
- SmellyGeekBoy, on 04/28/2008, -1/+14I'm sitting here writing this on a Mac, and even I'm not stupid enough to believe that Safari is nything other than a tool for downloading Firefox (or Opera!).
- bowe, on 04/28/2008, -0/+13What the hell is this ***** about Apple pushing Safari out through Itunes updates? Isn't that the type of ***** that they were up in arms about microsoft doing.
To download quicktime, they make you to download itunes, and now they also make you download safari? - borez, on 04/28/2008, -0/+13We'll done for mentioning your own site without blatantly advertising it.
- freexe, on 04/28/2008, -1/+14How long are you planning on sticking with Windows for? Do you have any plans on moving to Linux?
- falafelkiosken, on 04/28/2008, -0/+12do your websites surf the internet?
- glinsvad, on 04/28/2008, -0/+10Considering the speed of the current release cycle, FF 6 will probably feature an antigravity module...
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -4/+13In europe firefox is benifitting from the antitrust law suit and billion euro fine on microsoft.But 75-78% world internet population still uses IE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_br ... - bedake, on 04/28/2008, -1/+10So does Firefox 6, way to state the obvious.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -2/+10The IT guys have Ubuntu on all their machines, they are working on making the desktop seem as much like windows as possible so if they do make a transition, its easy for the user to find things. Ubuntu 8 apparently makes the desktop very flexible, so windows may be gone completely soon.
I showed some of the comments to the it guys and theiy laughed, they said its amazing people think MS software is the only way to go for large scale enterprise, pure brainwashing. - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -1/+9Don't blame the law. It was there before IE was even invented. MS knew the rules but dropped the ball on this one.
So more accurately: Firefox is benefiting from Microsoft's incompetence. - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -1/+8Still, this does remind me of the time Netscape Navigator had 85% of the share, and IE was barely existing. 5 years later Netscape Navigator was almost completely gone. I doubt IE will ever completely vanish, since it is sent with windows, but FF's share is going to continue creeping up.
- Dustmuffins, on 04/28/2008, -0/+7Oh, I can't wait for FF 6!
- pukiman, on 04/28/2008, -3/+10You have the option to select your default search engine on the first startup of the browser. You don't have to select live.com
- pongx, on 04/28/2008, -5/+12Microsoft makes plenty of money from their browser, just by having the default search go to Live.com makes them millions. Could make them billions if their search engine wasn't so terrible.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6Yup here in good ol' Ireland IE has hit the skids. Its partly due to Irish banks (AIB, BoI and others) giving certain warnings against IE usage and certain government websites too.
- zantos420, on 04/28/2008, -1/+7as a web developer, i can only hope IE goes away for good.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -2/+8If they shipped their OS with FF, that means they'd want some control over FF. That's not going to happen.
I'm glad that some new computer sellers are automatically installing FF though. My new laptop came with FF installed by the guy selling it for instance, which I really appreciated. I only use IE for the rare stupid site that requires it, and I only bother going to those sites if I really need what's on that site. - Borgcube, on 04/28/2008, -2/+8Yeah, but a lot of people never do change it, they just think it should be that way
- novenator, on 04/28/2008, -2/+8go Firefox! you have made the web an entirely more enjoyable experience for me. Plus, I love the customizable add-ons (Adblock primarily, but downloadthis, forecastfox, etc. too).
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -6/+11While Safari for windows does indeed suck the *****, on mac i hear tell it kicks ass. 2nd only to Firefox 3b5 in standards compliance.
It has yet to be targeted by hackers in any serious way though. - enruff, on 04/28/2008, -1/+6I really dont see anyone around me who is using IE /Bulgaria,Europe/ . Just girls and people that dont use computer often . I use Opera as primary and Firefox as secondary browser .
- pukiman, on 04/28/2008, -1/+6Why it's too bad for IE? It's not like Microsoft making any money out of it, or something.
It's just a tool that available on clean Windows install, that lets you get onto the Internet (and download Firefox, or what ever). - borez, on 04/28/2008, -1/+6As much as I love Forefox, after the last update it ain't half crashing my mac a lot. It's the only time I've ever seen an OSX machine actually freeze solid.
Still not switching back to Safari though
Roll on FF3 - picpak, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5Dugg for even having your username capitalized.
- mijelh, on 04/28/2008, -1/+6I love this kind of elaborated, methodical replies so usually found on digg.
Anyway, I agree with the fact that opera wouldn't be as good as firefox because:
a) Memory usage optimization, the typical stronghold of Opera, seems to be surpassed by Firefox (comparing opera 9.5 vs Firefox 3, both are the last, unfinished version of the browser) http://avencius.nl/content/firefox-3-vs-opera-950- ...
b)Firefox is free software - zeabu, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Is now, but wasn't. Wasn't because they were the only competitor of msie. Which gives a feeling, when being in the position of msie, they'll do the same as ms.
- Jarasmen, on 04/28/2008, -1/+5The only thing I care about atm is working png transparency. Use what you want, just not IE6 (or older).
- mijelh, on 04/28/2008, -1/+5the term "free software" refers to freedom as in freedom of speech, not free as in "free beer", wich seems in fact to be your problem ;)
- WhereAmI, on 04/28/2008, -1/+5By that you mean troll.
- zeabu, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4They are less lucky, but lucky for them this happenes in Europe. We using FF makes sure FF keeps on existing, and when it grows some more, pages will comply more with standards, which in the end is more important than FF being the number one browser. Everyone picks fruits.
- derekJAB, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Not really. I actually dugg up the guy.
Mine was supposed to be a wry comment on the digg effect and his wisdom in not advertising.
Whoosh! - zeabu, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Well, it has been selected for you, as is the browser when you install ms. For you and me, that's whatever, for mum, dad, granmother, granfather, sister, the hot chick working in Wallmart, that's not. They can read the invisible-to-us "choose something else and you will die a slow and painfully death." behind the option.
- SmellyGeekBoy, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Nah... Firefox needs the competition. Don't want the browser market to stagnate like it did in the IE6 era! It was only 3 years or so ago... Has everyone forgotten the lessons of the past already!? ;P
- surKaz, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Yeah, thanks.. I'll be honest. I never really fully understood the differences. .(technical ones..).
I did notice better compatiblity, ease of use and add-ons and stuff with FireFox tho..
Please enlighten on technical side?.. (and maybe bury.) - momsshizzle, on 04/28/2008, -1/+4You are obviously not a high level tech.
- pigfister, on 04/28/2008, -7/+10whats the difference?
Firefox = open source and allows ppl to submit mods for FREE
IE = locked propertarian malware that if you want an add on you have to pay. - Incoming9000, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately this rapid climb in market share make FF more tempting to hackers. In fact there are clear signs that hackers are already developing malware that takes advantage of FF flaws. Fortunately for FF, being open source means it can have it's bugs fixed faster than IE but it shows that it's not good for anyone if FF becomes as dominant as IE once was. Bottom line, I don't believe the death of IE will be a good thing for anyone. FF, IE, Opera, Safari, all have their place in the digital world. Remember: competition is good, dominance isn't.
- init100, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2@grimward
What is a DIT? I guess that DIT is some generic term for the functionality that AD and group policies provide. On our server cluster, we do that with openldap for user account information, NFS for home directories (although I had preferred AFS) and puppet for client configuration information. Sure, puppet does not have a fancy GUI, but the language is not very hard to learn.
And I cannot really understand why this wouldn't work for client systems too. -
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