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- xxmjumpman23xx, on 05/23/2009, -0/+20Current batteries suck, We definitely need some innovation in this area.
- prince87x, on 05/23/2009, -0/+16I have read about countless advancements that are supposedly going to revolutionize the industry for electronics and electric cars but we never see or hear about them again.
- LANjackal, on 05/23/2009, -0/+11I think the term "fueled" is a huge misnomer, but that's just me. Good news.
- gilbertj9, on 05/23/2009, -0/+8There should be a quicker way to say "Ill believe it when i see it"
- spectecjr, on 05/24/2009, -0/+6If this is true, they should apply for an ARPA-E grant - that's EXACTLY what it's there for - to take promising tech and fast-track it into active manufacture.
- dms105, on 05/24/2009, -0/+5Hype-fueled article could fool up to 10 times more people
- KingGorilla, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5Yeah the improvement seems to be in energy storage not energy source
- Zarimus, on 05/23/2009, -0/+5If all the announcements about improvements in battery technology that Digg has seen in the last year were all applied at the same time there would be electric cars with 1000 mile range that take minutes to recharge. That would be nice, of course, but when are any of these going to make it to market?
- mgsdeadcell, on 05/23/2009, -0/+4my laptop would run for a straight ten hour period then!
- greevar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+4The air is not compressed.
- borez, on 05/23/2009, -0/+3If it works and does what it says on the tin, then all good.
- sanman, on 05/23/2009, -0/+3so our battery-powered vehicles won't run on the moon or mars, that's okay.
we'll just have to use different batteries especially made for those environments. - inactive, on 05/23/2009, -0/+3It is an "increase"
save step-change for this.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=7 ... - DahRecords, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2This is an amazing development.
- failtrain, on 05/23/2009, -0/+2"He estimates that it will be at least five years before the STAIR cell is commercially available."
So I guess I may eventually see this in stores in 2020, if ever? - misterenigma07, on 05/24/2009, -0/+2Looks like a condom wrapper.
- blstr, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Remember "Second Reinassance"? Imagine those robots on such batteries. We'd be even less than no match.
I wonder if people will have enough oxygen left to breathe, when it gets popularized... - GlassAgate, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Is this another one of "those" inventions, like the water powered car?
- greevar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1We only utilize 11% of the oxygen we breath, so we should be fine.
- greevar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Well, it "could" last up to 10 times longer, but it CAN last 8 times longer as it is.
- DRNOOO, on 05/24/2009, -1/+2now i'm no scientist but what if one malfunctions and over heats in some way or ignites - wouldn't compressed air explode and feed a fire ?
- retral, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1You know, I keep hearing about all these wonderful battery advancements, but they always include the word "could" and I never really see/hear anything else about them in the years following the story.
- greevar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Dupe: http://digg.com/d1rnpw
- greevar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1The battery can provide 4000 mA per gram. Whereas a lithium cobalt oxide battery can muster 500 mA per gram.
- orville1151, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Failtrain, you Optimist. ;-)
- yerdaddy, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1For this to be worth a darn something (safe) will have to be done with the oxygen liberated during charging, they don't say ***** about cycle life or maximum charge rate. My guess is you wouldn't want to be running something big with this in a sealed area or you'll probably quit first. Sounds too new to even mention yet. They're Way far away from technology that would work in cars or for utility power storage. Thanks anyway
- kkonarik, on 05/25/2009, -0/+1What I'm looking for is the waste of the chemical reaction with the Oxygen.
- evolutn, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Add this to the diggnation list of cool science junk that will never exist :\
- Denelson83, on 05/25/2009, -0/+1Because the oil companies will suppress it.
- inactive, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Just patented it. Pay me now or you will be disconnected.
- mattcurrie, on 05/24/2009, -1/+2IBIWISI
- jpop, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1You usually don't hear anything about them because they don't turn out to be commercially viable (but not in the evil conspiracy way). For example, it may be technically good on a small scale voltage, but doesn't scale up to the level you need to take the place of current technology. In this particular case, there's not really enough information on it. We know that it takes in Oxygen, but we don't know if it outputs anything else (some poisonous gas for example).
- fightclub, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1Price of air goes up :(
- DASK, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1It's ridiculous how often these are described as breakthroughs and 'an order of magnitude better'. It's only one of the electrodes. That means that something 25% of the mass of the battery may be able to be ten times lighter. Therefore saving ~23%. Assuming they can make it work, and find another electrode to balance it (in terms of power curves, expansion, etc)... etc etc etc.
- synapz, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1An unfortunately long time, if ever. They don't reach the market because they were not innovated _by_ the market. Speaking as a government-funded researcher in academia, government-funded research generally goes nowhere because there is no incentive to produce marketable technology - just publishable technology. Taxing market players to pay academic researchers backfires in (at least) three ways: academia produces little that is truly marketable, charges private companies for whatever it patents that _is_ marketable, and takes money from the market innovators that would otherwise be used to research and produce technology that people actually use.
Of course, the statists like to point to the occasional success of academic research (inevitable given the brains and money thrown at them), but the results are a shameful shadow of what advances we would see if the free market were left alone to innovate (especially if we were to remove the unhelpful barriers to market entry that "intellectual property" provides the tech incumbents).
But hey, you guys keep on stealing money from each other and giving it to me. Why should I quit this job just to enter the market and be robbed and pushed around? No thanks! - widgetmaker, on 05/24/2009, -0/+1UK research, I assume you're talking about a US fund, so it probs doesn't qualify.
- Countess666, on 05/24/2009, -0/+0actually they could work there perfectly fine, they'd just need a supply of oxygen to work.
that would make them heavier per watt then they need to be on earth but they might still be better then other batteries. - mrmudgeon, on 05/25/2009, -0/+0This is very early stage and may not amount to anything. If the lab project continues until 2011 (as stated in the article) the chance it will be in the market in 5 years is zero. That information is just plain wrong.
If we see this ever, it will be closer to something like 2018. Mostly though, these things never make it out of the lab. Lithium Ion, which is today's high tech battery of choice was invented in the 60s. It only came into wide use when laptops and cellphones gave the technology the commercial push it needed. - chris1roche, on 05/24/2009, -1/+1Why do I feel like every time I read about a new technological advancement, I am 100% certain to see a comment like this?
- kkonarik, on 05/24/2009, -1/+1What is the out put after the reaction with the Oxygen? I may have missed it but I couldn't find anything in the article?
I'm with Blstr. Humans keep growing in population and more plants and more natural oxygen producing methods of the oceans are destroyed and boom animal life is at a falling point. We are a self-destructive species I'm sure of it. The Earth will have to have a major reboot at some point. Unless something else BIG happens first. - UndeniablyRexer, on 05/23/2009, -1/+1Whew, got me scared, if the batteries are fuelled by air and last only 10 times longer, what does that say about our air supply?
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(inb4 air supply) - Countess666, on 05/24/2009, -1/+0no. the oxygen is already bound.. burned up so to say. all the 'energy' has already been taken out of it. so it doesn't want to react any more. (unless you get to extreme temperatures... but other batteries would have exploded by then aswell so no difference there.)
- nextTopModel, on 05/23/2009, -7/+1Tesla now worth half GM's value
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