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- CrappedCrusader, on 10/18/2007, -22/+196At least Subaru knows they make ugly cars
- Ninjab3ar, on 10/18/2007, -24/+134If only the Mac vs. PC ads were like the Bentley ad
Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac.
PC: And I'm a PC
Mac: ***** You, PC. - Chebyshev, on 10/18/2007, -4/+87VW also owns Audi if I'm not mistaken.
- CapnObvious, on 10/18/2007, -0/+80if that is a real advert from Bently, that's awesome. it definitly is represenative of their target market.
- mongrel, on 10/18/2007, -1/+74Yes, because Imprezas are downright unattainable - you'd need to pull, like, $35k a year to afford one of those.
- SickFinga, on 10/18/2007, -2/+72That's not nearly all of them, here are more
http://rankyspanky.com/2006/11/13/car-manufacturers-ad-wars-9-posters/ - kevinmoore, on 06/13/2009, -1/+69Volkswagen AG owns seven brands which are organized into two groups. The Audi branch consists of Audi, Lamboghini, and Seat. The Volkswagen branch consists of Volkswagen, Bentley, Skoda, and Bugatti. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -8/+52If I remember correctly from Wikipedia, Volkswagen 0wns Bently. (I mean that literally, as in owning controlling shares in the company.)
Any suggested responses? - KevinWhite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32@drunkenoaf
Uhhh, no, VAG does not stand for Volkswagen Audi Group, the AG stands for Aktiengesellschaft, a German company type used as a suffix on company names, the German word meaning "corporation limited by shares" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktiengesellschaft ). This is the same as a corporation in the states. - sv650touring, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29The words "ugly" and "beautiful" are too strong to describe most Subarus. Some are kinda ugly, but in an ugly-cute way. Maybe the spec sheet of the WRX STi is beautiful, but not the car itself.
Try this: Subarus are normal looking cars, just like they try to be and most of their customers want them to be. - rotarychainsaw, on 10/18/2007, -0/+28Bentley can do whatever it wants. I'm sure Bentley owners look down and laugh at BMW and Audi owners anyway.
- noreturn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Never going to touch? It's not like a WRX STi is prohibitively expensive or anything..
- Kericr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23@noreturn - $35k is apparently prohibitively expensive for kids in high school.
- kevyn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25very nice. but is that bently one real? Personally if i was bently, i wouldnt want that kind of advert going out
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21@Muntz I don't think all of them are real:
The BMW one is the only one I can believe fully is real. The Audi one looks unprofessional and like a copy of the BMW one.
Just about any advert in a car magazine will have the tiny text at the bottom, talking about the car and providing sources / legal loopholes for any claims made. The BMW advert is the only one that shows that.
And the Subaru one is definitely fake: Subaru didn't win best engine of the year 2006, BMW did. http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/winner.html
As for the Bentley one, who knows, but most likely fake.
As a side note: I have no idea why BMW's V10 M3 engine is impressive. At 500hp, it does 0-62 in 4.7 seconds. Subaru should have won, as it's 4 cylinder turbo charged engine will do 0-60 in 4.7, and probably 0-62 in a small fraction more. At six less cylinders. - goat2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18im sure its not gonna stop any of their potential customers from buying their cars
- Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19I kinda like the last gen models. The front of the 07s aren't that great.
- purplegrog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I don't think that's the Bentley chairman.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/112_0507_franz_josef/photo_01.html
I don't think the last one is real. there's literally no context to it, unless you know the back story. If those ads were all next to each other, it makes sense, but if you're going to put up an ad, you'll want to know why the pissy old man with the Bentley logo is giving you the bird. - PDave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17It saddens me that it was actually necessary to clarify the correct technical definition of 'own' here.
- VarianX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Congratulations to all you road-loving sissies.
From the winner of World War II
-- Jeep - fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@h2d2
"The Koenigsegg CCX sports only 806 horses compared to the 1000 for the Bugati. So it may be the fastest street-legal car in the US, but definitely not the world."
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hp != mph/kph
Koenigsegg: 1175 kg
Veyron: 1600 kg
takes less hp to move 1175 kg at a faster speed than 1600 kg. - ZoomBoy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18None of these ads are real. It was part of a big discussion over on the VW Vortex message boards, I don't think vehicle manufacturers this large would pull a stunt like that.
- jlylereeves, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"That's not nearly all of them, here are more
http://rankyspanky.com/2006/11/13/car-manufacturers-ad-wars-9-posters/"
The BMW vs Jaguar is the best one of all! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14hate to agree. that ad by itself wouldn't work without the other ads
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12They look down on BMW and Audi because the cars in the ads are the ones they give their kids on their 16th birthdays.
- tugger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I can confirm thats not the Bentley Chairman (I'm a Bentley Design Engineer).
Audi didn't win 6 years Le Mans (at least not consecutively), Bentley won 1 of them. Did they win some back in the 80's? maybe.
If I had the money, I definitely get the GT (60 Yrs Special Edition), but with the Naim Audio update... 3,500 watts (rms, not peak) and 32 speakers. And unlike the Aston Martins, the GT is designed and built beautifully.
..and if I had even more money, the Arnage is in a whole different league. If anyone is ever visiting the UK, you really have to go on the factory tour. Just watching those old boys stitching the interior, building up an Engine, and cutting the leather etc is a joy to watch.
I'm biased obviously, but hell, for the first time in my life I love my place of work.
Finally..
I've met a few Bentley customers, and they definitely have that smug "F*ck you" attitude as shown in the advert. - sv650touring, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15That way Evo owners will have something to chuckle about while they are waiting for the tow truck to arrive.
As someone that has had plenty of experience with both, compared to Subarus, Mistubishi cars are disposable junk.
(please note: I drive a Chevrolet...) - OnymousHero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"What happened to German engineering?"
It came head to head with German accounting... - CraigJ, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@Kericr - depends on where you go to high school...
- jon3k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@betterth
Yes, but will it seat 4 with the same comfort, quietness and amenities as a BMW M5? I've ridden in both. One is a souped up grocery getter and one is a luxury sedan, that just happens to do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Not to mention how badly it would destroy a WRX STi from highway speeds. Not everyone buys a car to race from red light to red light. - kolbyjack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@betterth
You keep saying M3, yet you quote prices and stats from the M5. They are not the same car. - SiNiK, on 12/31/2008, -0/+9I think Subaru needs to do some research....LeMans races are some of the toughest abuse you could put on a vehicle or its motor....LeMans is nowhere near "just a beauty contest"
Ha -Audi wins in my opinion...they have some street cred-
Great ads though!! - catullus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11no, consider the ad out of context, it still makes perfect sense. bentley pretty much saying "***** you" to everyone else out there
- LFAB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9No, it's not real. Bentley owners would have their driver give you the finger.
- Istari6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I can vouch for the BMW, Audi and Subaru ones as I've seen them in magazines here in South Africa. The Ad's appeared after Audi won SA car of the year and they put out a few ads to that effect. (The BMW one was done after Audi won SA car of the year). The ads aren't that recent though. I think it would have been 2005.
BMW have a bit of a history of doing this type of thing and I recall them having a dig at Mercedes a couple of years back. I've not seen the Bentley one and seriously doubt it's for real. - bakkouz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Actually, The fastest street legal car is the Red Victor One, sporting a 9.3 litre V8 Engine and 2200 BHP it goes from 0-60 MPH in just One second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtxfbxGz1u4 - nutsackninja, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Ford should have made and ad and said congratulations to every other car company in the world for producing a more reliable car.
From the most unreliable car company in the world (FORD)
Yes my car broke down and I am mad.. - betterth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Subaru engine award is NOT a fake! Subaru got 2005 award for best engine in 2-2.5 litre category:
http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/winners/2_25.html"
The ad clearly claims it won the international engine of the year, 2006, which, as the link I provided shows, was won by BMW.
The link you provided shows that Subaru won the International Engine (2.0L - 2.5L) of the Year, 2006. BMW didn't win the ">2.5L" category, the won best engine bar-none, which the Subaru ad claims. And another point. If the Subaru ad was real, there would be small print defending this exact point. "The Subaru blah engine won blah's blah award for the division of blah, etc etc"
As for the luxury and amenities of a BMW. I've been in a WRX many a time and the STI a couple of times. If the M3 is what, $50,000 over the cost of the STI, I certainly hope for a little bit more than "Amenties". And the STI is a damn nice ride, and very comfortable. And it does seat four just fine.
Oh, and not every race is stop light to stop light? Very true. But if you're not looking to get yourself pulled over for doing sixty over on the interstate, and try to keep your speed around 25 over tops (any more and they cut your license on the spot here in Georgia), than the fact that the M3 "destroys the STI at 80mph and up" is hardly useful in any real world condition. I think I go 0-60 much more often than I go 80-130.
And we're still brought back to the fact the M3 costs 50 grand more ._.;; - ZoomBoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@ cawpin: Are you nuts? Audi has to thank Subaru for their AWD systems? Hilarious.
"In the 1970s, two vehicle manufacturers Audi and Subaru designed their own all wheel drive systems in passenger vehicles. In the 1980s, all-wheel drive systems in cars became a fad, and other German manufacturers like Porsche, BMW and Mercedes-Benz offered all-wheel drive systems in their cars to compete in the marketplace, along with GM, Ford, Toyota and others...
Today, after over 25 years of class-leading technology and engineering, the name quattro is an identifiable symbol and trademark that shows would-be competitors the level of quality they have to achieve in order to attempt to compete with Audi."
In fact, they aren't even the same by design. Subaru primarily uses a center diff with lock or clutch pack and locking or limited slip rear, where as Audi/VW uses a Torsen center diff or for VW a Haldex based system that is only part-time AWD that is primarily FWD except when it senses slippage it will enable the rear wheels. - wbrooks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@cawpin... wtf are you talking about? Audi AWD has nothing to do with Subaru AWD.
- Alternate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5bionikal: The first 2 ads are real, they were in our South African newspapers and mags.
- junkpunch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@cawpin: What? Please explain how Audi has Subaru to thank for their AWD system.
- Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"The words "ugly" and "beautiful" are too strong to describe most Subarus. Some are kinda ugly, but in an ugly-cute way. Maybe the spec sheet of the WRX STi is beautiful, but not the car itself.
Try this: Subarus are normal looking cars, just like they try to be and most of their customers want them to be."
So you are trying to tell me that this:
http://www.edmunds.com/media/seo/500/2006.subaru.b9.tribeca.jpg
Isn't ugly??? - cbiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I was in Bentley GT last night (my friend purchased the car for his Dad, it was a good year!!) and it is one MF of a car. The car is a two door, ultraluxury coupe - imagine having a LARGE very well-appointed race car. Cool factor includes HID headlights, adjustable suspension damping, 20-inch two-piece wheels and a 2000 watt audio system. I'm not much of a car guy but I wanted a nasty redhead at my side, a BIG fat cigar and the open road for 2 weeks. I now know why the Bentley Chairmen gave EVERYONE the finger!
- clackerd, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12the legacy spec.b looks pretty nice... but i think you just wanted to make a point.
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/04/spec-b-almost-dead-on-resized.JPG - junkpunch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@betterth: "As a side note: I have no idea why BMW's V10 M3 engine is impressive. At 500hp, it does 0-62 in 4.7 seconds. Subaru should have won, as it's 4 cylinder turbo charged engine will do 0-60 in 4.7, and probably 0-62 in a small fraction more. At six less cylinders."
The M5 weighs 4010 pounds. An STI weighs 3300 pounds. That's 800 pounds difference. Also, an STI is geared for sprints, and M5 isn't. There's a lot more to 0-60 times than just the engine output. - trehlo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm pretty sure the BMW and Audi ads are legit, the Subaru one is a fake, and the Bentley one is real.
The Bentley one works just fine on it's own. Nothing says "I have more money than you do" or "I'm better than you" more than a smirk and the finger. Take your pick.
Oh, and from a Subaru owner, Audi was the first company to get AWD onto a passenger car. They don't have Subaru to thank for anything. Hence the first Quattro rally car, which owned everyone at the time. - fishbert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4actually, correct those numbers...
wikipedia lists the Veyron 16.4 at nearly 300 kg heavier than I mentioned above. - deim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@jverber
Damn it, I missed it! :-( You are right - there IS an overall winner, and M5/6 is the one :-) - dreserd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@cawpin
"Do some reading and a little real world research before speaking. You have much less chance of making yourself sound like a complete ass."
Exactly.
Subaru uses a viscous coupling system. Audi uses a Torsen system. And what everyone else said.
And if you did a little research you also wouldn't be driving a Chevy. -
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