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- inactive, on 09/30/2008, -1/+27Anything you view on the internet can be downloaded... And they're suing Amazon for this?
-_- - trodemaster, on 09/30/2008, -0/+18Looks like folks where blaming the tools a little too quickly.
- BoneStamp, on 09/30/2008, -0/+17Looks like the Amazon player doesn't use SWF verification or an encrypted RTMP stream; sounds like Amazon's fault to me. You can't just build something and expect security, you have to actually implement security.
- Lokyho, on 10/01/2008, -2/+10***** you two of my friends died trying to bring back RealPlayer.
(And died rightfully so, stupid buggers.) - foxytea, on 09/30/2008, -1/+8Thats pretty hilarious
All this DRM crap and you can just download it without paying for it. Hell you get a better experience stealing it. - inactive, on 10/01/2008, -1/+6Why would anyone bother to rip it off Amazon? It's much easier through torrents.
- diggduggDOOM, on 10/01/2008, -0/+3I ... buffering ... think that's ... buffering ... a great ... buffering ... idea!
- Otto, on 10/01/2008, -0/+3Amazon has a fairly decent selection and reasonably high quality for some movies. The ripper could also download the stuff hella fast.
- Otto, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2They do use SWF verification now, and will be encrypting in the future.
I'm waiting for somebody to write a stream ripper that simply watches the download as it zips to the player itself, or rips it out of the player's memory. Then SWF Verification is useless. - CarnivalOfDust, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2Ooh, the **AA gonna hunt you down for saying that.
You forget - timeshifting your media funds terrorism. - alphaterminus, on 10/01/2008, -1/+3Yes, let's blame the tools at the MPAA for promoting torrents by making it difficult on real consumers.
- Staplerfahrer, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2But someone could patch the SWF verification, and alter the player to play the whole Content. But on the other hand it's much work and you could use Torrents anyway.
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -2/+4Meh, if a user pays to view a video and wants to take up hard drive space to save it LET THEM.. try to fight it and fail
- SSUK, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2Or have something which masquerades as the SWF making the call.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2Isn't it perfectly legal to rip a stream though? It's legal to tape TV or record radio, I'm pretty sure the same applies to any streaming web content.
- wrek, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2Cool! A thread full of people who didn't RTFA.
- ShiftyBizniss, on 10/01/2008, -0/+2i say the parents are to blame...
- Otto, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1They plugged the hole a day before Reuters released the article, and yes, it was basically Amazon's fault.
And anyway, they're moving everything to Adobe's new RTMPE which is encrypted RTMP, to prevent it in the future. - tumbler360, on 10/01/2008, -1/+2This is stupid. Why are you trying to limit usage of stuff that people pay you for!? (assuming someone paid to get the movie streamed to them)
If someone pays you to watch a movie and wants to record it on their PC, shut up and let them. Jeez. - yourprash, on 09/30/2008, -0/+1Hmm. I don't think any revamps would be happening, however only time has to tell.
- inactive, on 10/01/2008, -1/+2It's only Amazon's fault for providing a service which treats the consumer as trustworthy enough not to take advantage of exploits.
Silly Amazon, I guess.
When this story broke on Digg the other day, it was full of comments saying "SHHH.. buried".... yet when this company that trusted you to do the right thing (however stupid an idea that was) tries to buckle down on their security, people are going to scream rape.
I predict it ahead of time.
It's ***** ridiculous, and none of that is going to help the cause of free information one bit. - Otto, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1Yes, however their crap software let you rip it without paying for it. Basically, they were sending the whole stream whether you paid for it or not, it was just that their software player would stop playing it after a couple of minutes.
- getatmedigg, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1First rule of Fight Club is....
- wakkow, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1As long as you're not bypassing any DRM in the process.
- Haecceity, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1Amazon's "search inside the book" feature is also lacking in security. Using the "view page info" feature in Firefox you can easily print off pages. Just yesterday I printed off an entire chapter of a book because I need it for research I'm doing.
- antdude, on 10/01/2008, -0/+1What's a good program to rip streaming videos? I tried Orbit Downloader for Windows, but it doesn't work with hulu.com and other sites. Works great for YouTube, MySpace, etc.
- desertcoffin, on 10/03/2008, -0/+0Knock it off... even a 5-year-old kid now can rip with ease!
Dugg! - mattearle, on 10/01/2008, -1/+1Why do they still bother fighting? It must be so defeating.
- AlexanderCurtis, on 10/02/2008, -0/+0http://www.xi-soft.com
Can rip pretty much any streaming protocol with NetTransport from XiSoft..That coupled with a few freely available firefox plugins = easy downloads. - benologist, on 10/01/2008, -2/+2Cause it's just *so* hard to buy a movie these days.... especially on a service where you're previewing a movie and deciding whether you want to make that extra click or two to buy it.
- BXRWXR, on 10/01/2008, -7/+2Bring back RealPlayer?
- Phearce, on 10/01/2008, -7/+1Using torrents assumes installing torrent software -- which is risky (potential for malware). Also, in some environments torrents are blocked.
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