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- insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27So rather than acer and gateway competing for the worst computer company in existence, they decided to merge in order to share the title?
- Lyanto, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15I'm personally rooting for HP and their vastly superior style for around the same price. Been using 2 of their laptops over the last few years and they've been rock solid, which is more than I can say for Dell.
- trghpy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Taking all bets, Who will be the last American PC company? Apple or Dell?
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Timex Sinclair. They'll make a comeback, you'll see!
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Somehow I think this combination will be less impressive than the one that results in Voltron.
- mortigon, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Another reason not to buy Acer...
- FutureGuy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Microsoft and or Apple.
In other news China decides to buy California, they wanted to do something with the trillion dollars US consumers gave them for cheap stuff. - idc5, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7so no more cow painted boxes from gateway?
- wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Last American PC Company? HP before Dell, Dell before Apple. I could see ***** or Sony moving on Dell for the brand-fashion it has in the US.
Market cap: HPQ 125.16B; MSFT 267.11B; AAPL 115.01B; IBM 154.32B; Dell 61.64B;
Gateway? 680.03 Million Only one remotely close to being the right "size" for take-overs. - morningmatters, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3My first PC was a Gateway2000, bought back in 1990. So it's a bit sad to see this happening although by 2003 this outcome is fairly obvious. Back in 1997 HP wanted about to pay Gateway 7Billion but Gateway refused. That decision is going to be studied in HBS case studies for sure..
- IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I always knew Gateway would go down. It was only a matter of time.
- ddfall, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Well, in my book Acer was number 1 in that followed by Gateway in terms of bad. Now all we need is a Packard Bell Rebirth...
- nakile, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It's begun! Asia is taking over!
Either way, I've seen strange stuff out of both companies. Local school bought 48 Gateways with ten of them having motherboard failure within a month. As for Acer, I've herd the fair share of horror stories from them too; such as notebook screens with dozens of dead pixels.
Hopefully some improvement will happen. Guess I'll have to wait and see. - sweetskye82, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Has anyone besides me had a great experience with Gateway? I bought my pc in 2002 and it still runs fine.. I had no problems with it! Eventually I decided to do my own memory upgrades but besides that... the computer was the best I ever had and all it cost me was $1000.
- Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Dapple or Apell...not sure yet.
- d00msay3r3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Nope they will now come with roosters and dragons on them!! :)
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A critical mass of Suck? The thing wouldn't need fans...
- geniusj, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2Seconded.. I haven't had one for a while, but when I did, their support was very solid. I recently used them when dealing with the girlfriend's parent's PC as well, and they were very helpful despite the computers warranty being up.
- IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3China doesn't need to import anything because everything there is a ripoff copy of an original made somewhere else.
- strangerzero, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6Apple
- Jeffler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You are, they're from Palo Alto.
- Jammerdelray, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Acer Ferrari notebooks are rock solid.
- brwright, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I can't believe you guys forgot about Gateway buying eMachines! Gateway + eMachines + Acer = (i think you know)
- ddfall, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or Gateway for that matter...
- mcflynnthm, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2Yeah, I've had Gateways since they were Gateway 2000, and have never had an issue with the computers or the service *shrug* Maybe I'm just lucky?
- wageslaven, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow. Let us know when you get through highschool, they cover some of this material there.
- vanden9, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Maybe this will mean even better Linux support...
- Aiwanei, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2May be a dupe but that articles title sucks.
- monkeyrun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Chinese person" (or people in Asia in general) do not have many cars because they don't need it.
They have something called the public transportation system.
Also it's a luxury item to them, parking alone would easily cost them over $50 a day. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is horrible, it's bad enough that Acer makes horrible computers (every single one we sell at Best Buy always gets returned). And Gateway isn't that much better.
- funkytaco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is gonna turn out swell.
- ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Wu Tang is the only one that forms like Voltron. Except Voltron of course.
- justinjstark, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Does this mean Gateway will finally get a grammar check? "You've got a friend in the business. And Carl dun got some wood putty."
- cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ohh that's a WoW thing I guess. Gosh, they really DID rip off every other MMORPG. Not saying it's a bad thing, taking the good parts, but sheesh.
Here's the Everquest translation:
nullcodes delivers a critical blast! (9456) - nullcodes, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Why don't people make stuff for the Asian market ? No seriously they are getting ripped off too by the trade imbalance. Think about it. They have all this US cash and buying power. Wouldn't they be better off getting stuff sent to them. For example ... not every Chinese person has an advanced laptop. Not all of them have cars -- in fact only a small percentage of chinese own cars. China needs hundreds more airplanes in the coming decades for their domestic ait travel needs. Now pretty soon they are going to need all kinds of crap -- and even THEY do not have enough workers to supply it. (google china labor shortage to read how factories are havcing to pay higher and higher wages and benefits to retain workers who can walk across the street to the competition),. Pharmaceuticals -- america leads in drug design. Farming machinery etc. The world needs workers. The world needs stuff. If the work was not allowed to be traded between nations -- we would have to manufacture everything here. With only a 5% unemployment rate today in the US, that means people currently involved in high end design of iPhones or whatever would have to go work in garment and shoe factories instead. Are you going to give up working an office job to work in a shoe factory for minimum wage (you know that is what the pay is)? Are retail workers to leave their jobs to do manual labor in a factory? If you want to go back to living with the same stuff you had in the 1970's that's fine. But some people want to have the inventions that people today are producing such as advanced drugs, computer games, cell phones etc. instead of working in a factory.
- ddfall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Next thing ya know they'll rename themselves Packard Bell...God help us...
- PeaceHope, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1HP, Dell needs to not have everypart of their computers proprietary if they want people to recommend their comps. I who work at an electronics store personally tell people to stay away from dell for this reason alone.
- Killroy1971, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Talk about the weak buying the meek.
- andrew522, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1uhh I have both a gateway and an emachines (both under 500Mhz.) The emachines has had several problems, but I still use the gateway as a ramshackle home media and printserver, since I installed more RAM and a bigger HD. in fact, it's been on 24/7 for at least 2 years since i got a battery backup for it. I am amazed at how reliable it has been.
- cquinnd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You are probably confusing Hewlett-Packard with Packard Bell. The latter was bought out by a French owned conglomerate back in the late 90s.
- blorc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't get it. You said the computer alone would have cost 50% more than one you build yourself, but that you were considering paying 50% more and another $100 on top of that because it would've saved you $400?
Doesn't $2,100 + $400 = $2,500?
Doesn't $3,500 - $2,500 = $1,000?
Isn't saving $1,000 better than "saving" $400?
Why would you even consider a pre-built machine if you know you can build the same thing or better for cheaper? - bromac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1China annexing Taiwan would provoke the US into a conflict. I don't think that'll happen for a good 30 years, and I've been told that by a very good source (oil company consultant...those boys seem to be in the know these days).
He mentioned that the South China Sea's resources are what they're really after. Imagine the whole of Asia squabbling over that, and the US with Japan, Taiwan, the Phillipines, etc on one side, and the Maoist/Communist nations on the other.
Limited resources is the nature of conflict. There's many many many people over there, and we're fast running out of resources. You do the math.
And we've just politicized another technology thread. Go Digg! - Burn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's what his parents wanted.
- blakemsf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1We have Gateways where I work, switch from Dells about 3 or 4 years ago. Quality has went down some with Gateway, but so had Dell but we get them cheaper and with a better warranty than Dell. (4 years vs 3 years) Right now I have a FX530S as my office PC with a 22inch LCD and I am impressed with the unit. These units are assembled in USA which really surprised me as well. (FX530s not the majority of them) Also Tech support when I call is GREAT! I can understand 9 out of 10 people I talk to and get the part I need the next day. With Dell it seemed that they would always try to run me through 5 steps that I already tried even after I told them I did that.
Just my experience. Looks like we may be looking to going with HP now - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1And Bicycles! Lots and lots of bicycles. I was in Shengyang in 1990 and while on my way to the airport was actually stuck in a traffic jam consisting of about 90% bicycles! Freaky
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's 10 years ago. That's quite a good run. I'm sure the Execs are not hard done by.
- cbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right =)
Seriously though, I can't vouch for Acer customer service too much (although a company I used to work for used all Acer servers and customer service seemed okay a few years back) but I've owned several Acer products including a sweet 17" CRT (mind you, this was 1993) that performed well for years.
So I dunno, maybe they'll be better once they buy Gateway. - sethworld, on 10/20/2007, -1/+1Their support is horrid, som of the worse on the planet.
- sethworld, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Wow... now instead of two companies with horrid customer service, we have one. This is great news... eventually we will have just one company with horrid service.
- Tprnyc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Not only are Gateways computers built in the US all the CS and TS Phone support is in the US. It does seem like Gateway has just stopped trying the past couple (or half-dozen) years.
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