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- rycars, on 10/12/2007, -5/+124Don't you freakin hate when you visit a site, and the thunbnails are actually just the large pictures with height and width tags on them??!?
- dignick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+56http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/images/galleries/sealandtrip2/DSCF0207.JPG
Someone is pretty serious about learning java... - keesj, on 10/12/2007, -7/+53It's not about old metal crap.. but about the fact it's a country on his own. So you can basically create your own laws.
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -6/+51@keesj Its not its own country because NO other countries accept that its a sovereign entity.
- mindsnare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+39they look like half life 2 screenshots,
wow there really IS a place where barrels and crates just sit around - fernandez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38rust vs free movies
hrmmm - rosswf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Trip1:
http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/gallery.asp?show=sealandtrip1
Trip2:
http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/gallery.asp?show=sealandtrip2
Trip3:
http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/gallery.asp?show=sealandtrip3
Sealand Video:
http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/index.asp?show=sealandvideos - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30I'm waiting for it to get invaded by MIAA/RIAA ninjas.
- shodanx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31actually, TPB would be better off buying a big boat or just a place in somalia
- 5hop4orce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Those pictures are surprisingly uninformative. There's no sense of scale or context. I can't even tell what I'm looking at, except that it's dirty.
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Who would they pay it to??? The kid who hoses the bird doodie off the windows?
- diggsIt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23Parking's a bitch.
- xxBondsxx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35wow you get what you pay for!
- zlintux, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26That comment makes no sense... if the place cost the same as a night at Motel 6/Ibis, then sure, your comment would be apt.
But when the place costs as much as a Beverly Hills mansion, then it kind of loses meaning... - Walli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Quote:
"On 1 October, 1987, Britain extended its territorial waters from 3 to 12 nautical miles. The previous day, Prince Roy declared the extension of Sealand's territorial waters to be a like 12 nautical miles, so that right of way from the open sea to Sealand would not be blocked by British claimed waters. No treaty has been signed between Britain and Sealand to divide up the overlapping areas, but a general policy of dividing the area between the two countries down the middle can be assumed. International law does not allow the claim of new land during the extension of sea rights, so Sealand's sovereignty was safely "grandfathered" in. Britain has no more right to Sealand's territory than Sealand has to the territory of the British coastline that falls within its claimed 12 nautical mile arc.
Some nations might have tried to use this as an excuse to try to claim all of the territory of the weaker and not well recognized nation regardless of international law, however, this has not been the case. Britain has made no attempt to take Sealand, and the British government still treats it as an independent State. Prince Roy continues to pay no British National Insurance during the time he resides on Sealand subsequent to a ruling by the British Department of Health and Social Security's solicitor's branch. Also, there was another fire arms incident in 1990 when a ship strayed too near Sealand and warning shots were again fired. The ship's crew made complaints to British authorities and a newspaper article ran detailing the incident. Yet despite Britain's severe prohibition of firearms, British authorities have never pursued the matter. This is a clear indication that Britain's Home Office still considers Sealand to be outside their zone of control."
http://www.sealandgov.org/history.html - masgrada, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18So how do they get internet out there? And why couldn't the countries pressure whomever controls what internet they have to stop giving them service?
- chrillen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15They plan on buying it, and make it their own country. When it's their own country, they remove copyright laws, and will put money into high-speed internet. Free stuff for everyone!
- tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14so these people dont have to pay taxes?
- Ozzy73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The reason TPB wants that place is that it already is connected. It has a ping of 3ms with london.
- Voide, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Theres no way Sealand will ever be a recognized country by anybody. And lets think logically...PirateBay buys it and moves their operation over there, they create their own laws that make everything they do legal, nobody can tell them differently. All another country has to do, is send a raft with 2 guys and a M16 and theres absolutely no way for the guys at PirateBay to oppose them. What I'm trying to say is, if you have your own country, you have to have your own army...its common knowledge; and I'm doubting any military that country can produce, wouldn't be sufficient to fight off even the smallest of countries.
IMO, it'd be safer to stay in Sweden. At least that way, no countries going to invade just because of a torrent website.
However, I do agree it'd be cool. If everything was setup perfectly and all that jazz, Piratebay having their own country would rock. Period. - M2Ys4U, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13a pirate ship
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Sealnd is alright, has the advantage of vague nationality, but for mine I prefer "no mans land fort" in the Solent off portsmouth.
I like a bit of civilisation with my isolation.
http://www.ecastles.co.uk/seafort.html
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=18&ll=50.739724,-1.095006&spn=0.002858,0.006738&t=k
inside pics:
http://www.seriouslycoolevents.com/index.php?pages=102 - Anthet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Atleast one of the founders is a libertarian, lets hope the plans involve founding a new libertarian utopia ;)
- kristablaken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11To be honest, unless I'm missing something, I think you're bound to be right. I don't see how this will grant them any special powers or liberties at all. Even if they're planning something on the scale of, say, 'allofmp3.com' or bigger, if someone with power really wants to do something about it, they can and just plain will!
It's a novel idea, has gotten a hell of a lot of people talking, but are they really thinking of taking this further than a pipe dream? - Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@shodanx Very true :P
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11It's all a bit bloody short-sighted, isn't it? Sure, buying a nation is a pretty good publicity stunt, but isolating yourself like that means that it will be trivial for evil governments (like the MPAA, they own the US government now, right?) to cut TPB off from the rest of the world, whenever they please. (They please now).
- palillont, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It looks just like an oil barge in the middle of nowhere. Maybe it's cause I always assumed a nation was associated with actual *land*, but doesn't it feel odd to anybody else? Like, couldn't any millionaire go station a barge out in the ocean and call it his own country then? Island 2.0?
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Sealand:
1. Cement platform in the middle of nowhere
2. Bad weather
3. Totally dependent upon outside assistance for fuel, food, probably water too - incapable of operating autonomously
4. Not recognized as sovereign, never ever recognized as sovereign
5. Too close to other nations to ever be completely ignored and allowed to operate with impunity
6. Incapable of defending itself, no allies, no treaties or agreements with any other countries
7. About as well configured as a high-school kid's bed room
8. As an internet center, way too vulnerable -- a blockade or termination of communication lines would ruin the project - tvc15, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16@Beaver6813
But on the other hand, no other country claims it and enforce their own laws on it. In addition to that, countries that 'have a need' for recognizing Sealand will start to recognize it in the future. If it were packed with servers that banks worldwide use to stash trillions, you can bet governments will start negotiating some sort of relationship. Yes the place is kinda crappy now (whats with that burned out computer?) but it has potential. If the place were built up, people could do stem cell and other bio research without hindrance. Huge libraries could be made available without regard to censorship. Tax rates (if any) could be exceeding low as roads and schools and other social services might not be needed. Or taxes could be high and they can provide all sorts of social services or they might need something with which to defend themselves. Who knows? - Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Great, I can just hear all the developers saying, "Oh good, we really can do that!" 15 more years of generic FPS props.
- shodanx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11what a dump !
guess the Prince doesn't like to clean up - txrat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8@Beaver6813 The Sovereign Nation of Antarctica recognizes Sealand as a sovereign entity
Hell, If they returned the favor we'd be recognized too... - baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7pirate radio is cool, i miss the old days of "Captain Eddie & his radio airplane" or "JoeMamma", "Dr. Tornado", "Radio Doomsday" and etc...etc...
- theImposs1ble, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14the place is cool, but what the hell, did this guy take all the pictures on a freaking cell phone or something.
fellow diggers, if your planning on being a photojournalist (or even dabbling in it) please get an SLR.
digg me down if im being too picky - ricree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@tvc15
Or then again, maybe the UK will just decide that it is part of their territory after all. Heck, if The Pirate Bay did move there, you can bet there'd be pressure from the *IAA's to take care of it. - b3mus3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Hey, that poor kid needs a new hose... :(
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well said. There's no way that Sealand could ever be a viable country. With no resources, it would have no money. It would rely on outside donations to pay for everything there, and it would have to buy supplies from the UK to ferry over on their boats...hardly efficient. That's not to mention that the place looks like a ***** hole. I certainly wouldn't want to live there.
- Quake120, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Might I suggest they try:
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/ - loveandrockets, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Actually, the law changed: international waters are 12 miles from shore. Sealand is 8 miles from shore. It is no longer viable as a data haven or sovereign entity, that's why they're selling. If Pirate Bay buys it, they'll be subject to the laws of Great Britain.
It was an awesome idea, just won't happen at Sealand. I hope they get another, there are micronations elsewhere. - Powder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wow, that place needs alot of work. The Pirate Bay has their hands full if they move into that place. Not to mention how to run the fat pipes out there to keep it running as fast as it does.
- Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Piracy is not theft.
It's copyright infringement.
If I copy a CD and give it back to you, that's copyright infringement. You can still use the CD.
If I take a CD and keep it, that's theft. You can't still use it, because I've got it.
I support TPB because I think media organisations need pressure applied to them. They don't respond to anything but money or losing money.
I don't like how they try and sell us crap that's both overpriced and filled with advertising. It's time for them to either change their business model or die out.
Artists don't really need record labels anywhere near as much any more, they can do much of the marketing and so on independently and end up with a bigger cut.
It's amusing that if I buy a DVD it's got loads of copyright warnings, trailers, etc. that get in the way of watching the film.
If I download it, I just open the file and play it. No copyright bollocks, no irritations AND, assuming one chooses a suitable source, the quality is virtually indistinguishable from a DVD. - tf5bassist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7crazy... Just makes me wonder what Piratebay is up to with all this... I'm sure there's a reason for buying a "nation".
- scots, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5
Sealand is a country in "Prince Roy" 's mind only, I'm afraid. It would offer Pirate Bay even LESS ability to skirt international copyright laws than they currently enjoy in Sweden.
Sealand has no natural resources of their own, and are 100% dependent on purchasing fuel, potable water, food, and every other item on the "island." Making this even worse, they must buy their internet access from another entity, presumably England.
So, standing on a platform in the sea with a paper hat & sword, claiming to be King Reginald Buckworth Karlsburg the Lionhearted may sound like fun, but unfortunately your ability to shovel stolen mp3's, movies and TV shows out to world is only as good as your ability to keep your intertubes open. Unfortunately for Sealand, anyone they can buy large diameter intertubes from will crumple in the face of withering RIAA/MPAA ninja lawyer assault teams, as nearly every country in Western Europe are members of the WTO (world trade organization) and recognize the intellectual property rights of content owners. '
So, Sealand may be able to repel errant curious dolphins or seabirds that stray too close, but they will not be able to survive a legal end-run to leave them without internet access. - dhughes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4 Get ABC to do a new series "Extreme Makeover: Nation edition"
At the start of the show Prince Roy will talk about the fire and how his elderly Father has given up hope about rebuilding the family home...er nation.
The girl in the pink will cry about the fire.
The host will have his special project, a missile launcher.
A whole bunch of crazed builders in matching outfits will scrape all the rust off Sealand (little do they know they will be enslaved by Sealand, to forever work as servants )
Throw in some pseudo-religious mumbo jumbo.
At the end of the show they'll have the Royal Family on a boat behind a Supertanker, then it will pull away for the reveal of the new spruced up Sealand. - itsmerobb, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8This is stupid and my grandma could have taken better pictures.
- baalzebub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Sealand would also be a good place for an HF/shortwave radio station...
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The Pirate Bay seriously needs to just start this on a huge derelict boat, because that's all that Sealand is anyway.
- ben51959, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If what I understand is correct, Sealand wants xxx million... and thepiratebay.org is asking for donations from users that don't pay for ***** (including me)? Uhh... Sealand is not the future home of the pirate bay. They have a better chance of taking it by force.
- albatross5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4lcd monitor?
http://www.xtrasi.co.uk/images/galleries/sealandtrip1/sealand12.jpg - Coronagold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is what all the fuss was about? What a dump. Did they have a meth lab fire?
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