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- akira117, on 10/12/2007, -14/+52The pope must love the pr0n!
Probably has 5 computer going all at once..... - 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30@theblooms
this is IPs *allocated*, not IPs *in use*
the allocation has NOT changed significantly for US-based ISPs in recent years - antoni, on 10/12/2007, -10/+38@ abadincrotch
You took the joke too far man, waaaayyy too far - HaroldHupmobile, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28I was *very* surprised to see that Japan wasn't in the top 10.
- Klimmax, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Still pretty close, and it presents a good overview
- coldcoffee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Not true @r3zonance. I've got something like 10 computers scattered throughout my house, yet only ONE public IP address. My firewall uses NAT internally to assign IP's via DHCP. Same situation (on a much larger scale) at the Fortune 50 company I work for: We only show 1 IP (proxy) for all of our users. HTH.
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Because American corporations/government has massive first-level octet reservations, some companies have 2 for example.
1 first-level octet gives about 16 million unique IP addresses. - theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Ah, I misunderstood that then, thanks for clearing that up.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Can we find out all of Nigeria's IP addresses and block them from Every mail server in the world?
- onikage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9South Korea is often reported as having the world's highest penetration of broadband to consumer's homes.
http://news.com.com/South+Korea+leads+the+way/2009-1034_3-5261393.html
http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/08/technology/business2_futureboy0608/index.htm
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.08/korea.html
More broadband != more public IP addresses - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Japan could care less, they use IPv6 more than anyone right now anyway.
Pretty chart, not seriously cool though. - bobothn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10just like most city's more people work there than live there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7There's no place like 127.0.0.1
- 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's called PAT (Port Address Translation).
Hundreds or thousands of users sharing one IP is very, very simple and common. - Azertyqsdf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5In the good old days (80s and beginning of the 90s), they gave away B-classes (65k adresses) to most universities, no matter what their size was, not to mention class A (eg MIT, Halliburton, USPS, HP, etc. have 16M+ IPs EACH), and even after that the regional internet registries have had different policies concerning IP address assigments (leading to various occupation rate of the assigned space), so these statistics are not so significant.
See http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7FTA: "Under IPv4 there are 4,294,967,296 possible IP addresses - each of which may be assigned to a device or computer on the internet"
He's inaccurate because he didn't take into account that there are more than 17 million private IP addresses reserved and will never show up on the Internets:
http://www.jpsdomain.org/networking/nat.html
That wouldn't affect the numbers he came up with (they were inaccurate for other reasons as stated above), but I wanted to point that out. - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7how was the "most connected" rating derived? number of wires or lines? (or should I say, tubes?) feet or meters of copper or fiber? number of ISPs? number of user accounts with ISPs? mb of porn viewed daily? so many factors at play.
- Xophmeister, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Interesting; but hardly "seriously cool".
- Topher06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I just love this statement:
"Vatican City makes it to No. 1 by virtue of being tiny, and the rest consist of the US, Nothern Europe, Japan and Australia"
Us poor Canadians are always ignored, even when we are in the top 3. - mcraigw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The U.S. Government has a mandate for government agencies to move to IPv6 (more or less) by June 6, 2008. http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2005/m05-22.pdf
- 350Zed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6No, the idiot got dugg down for contributing nothing to the thread, as did you (as should I).
- modernlife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Fixed!
- dattaway, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Halliburton has their very own class-A address space. They must plan to take over a few countries with their 16,777,216 IP addresses.
- osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Shleprock - Effectively it's infinte, since it doesn't matter where you use private addresses the number is meaningless in a global sense.
- jcurran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While I'm certain that the numbers could be more current, it does a very good job of depicting the situation of historical IP assignments by country. When you hear people discussing inequitities in connectivity, this is what they're considering.
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3But that doesn't give any flexibility to the users, on the ISP, if I'm not mistaken.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Get some thicker skin.
- gaijin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I remember hearing a few years back that South Korea was the most connected country in the world, but they are somewhere in the "orange" range on this. Wonder what happened. Anyone know?
- emptyinside, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This only tracks how many useless gizmos we happen to own.
go Finland for having the highest percentage of internet users out of the population
and for allowing gay marriage in 2000
and for electing a woman president.
*sigh* the US is so behind the curve in things. - ZekeSulastin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And I'm sure that they're all used ;)
- fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Is there a way to get a complete list?
I would like to see how Cuba and North Korea fare; they are shaded on the map. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Where this issue is really relevant is with mobile phones - truly the next "personal computer" for us all, and especially for those living in poor 3rd world countries. It is not the $100 laptop that will make the difference, it is the phone worth a few dollars in the palm of your hand that will. Right now they don't all need IPs but in the next few years, and onwards, they will.
Alex
http://www.phonething.com - fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Most mobile phones with internet capability function just fine with NAT. Considering some phones are limited to "walled garden" services only, this is unsurprising.
As far as I'm aware, most "push mail" solutions are actually just a special SMS that instructs the phone to connect to the server and download messages. Cellular internet connections are usually terminal-initiated only and work fine via NAT for most uses (except NAT-unfriendly VPN protocols) - fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks fine to me at 1280x1024, even with the window only taking up 1/2 the screen.
- campo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2as far as IPs allocated, try an MIT dorm.
# students per dorm: approx 300
# IPs allocated per dorm: 256^2 = 65,536
# IPs allocated per student per dorm: 218.45 - Wootery, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"You do NOT need one public IP per person", only very few, very cheap/awful ISPs give their users a connection through NAT. For power-users not having a real IP can be a major inconvenience.
Edit - r3z got there first - oriondr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There really only are ~2bn IP numbers to play with, not 4.2bn.
As schlep pointed out, not only do class A/B take up a lot of IPs, there are also the broadcast/multicast/special purpose IPs that cannot address any particular computer that take up a lot of the spectrum.
IPv6 uses 128 bits (as opposed to 32 bits) which would allow for a lot more people to have their own IP (think number of stars in sky). So the solution is not sharing one IP address for thousands of people and using NAT, it is switching to IPv6. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They're talking about public IP addresses. I'm just saying that the private addresses can't be included is his 255^4 calculation because private IP addresses aren't issued by RIPE or ARIN.
That's all I was saying. - Vinvin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They should do this on worldmapper.org :D
- jeromehorwitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What are any of you talking about?
So what if countries have 58000:1 IPs. Most of those countries probaby don't even have electrical or sewage services for 80% of their population! My god what do they need IPs for when they don't even have computers? - tofuninja, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6"As you can see, the top 10 countries are as you may expect - western, wealthy countries with high internet penetration."
i am bothered by the author's comments on his findings. it may give a bird's eye view of the internet by ip, but the his concluding remarks are almost insulting. statistically speaking, correlation does not imply causation. he falls victim into believing it does. - sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should put the dwarf countries (Vatican city, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Gibraltar) in its own list.
- MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah who would've thunk it???
Nations with poorly established or non-existent infrastructures have less access to the internet... dah dah-duuuh - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Not true @r3zonance. I've got something like 10 computers scattered throughout my house, yet only ONE public IP address."
But the point I'm trying to make, is if the ISP is using NAT then you personally don't get 1 public IP. One public IP would be shared amongst many customers, and you would not be able to do port forwarding and things like that, cos it would be blocked at the ISP end. - mamoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Isn't it spelled: Madagascar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar
They have it as Madacascar. - bmson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Iceland is the most connected nation in the world and highest broadband penetration
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What's use of all those interconnected tubes if almost all major Korean websites are IE-only and you need to have a Korean social number to sign up for? I call it misuse of tubes. kekeke.
- r2700, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Love the content - Is it me or does the www.modernlifeisrubbish.co.uk guy have a really big monitor? Or does he just like making art that's oversized? Do I need a 30" screen to see this properly? What's the story there? =)
- grinin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I sense some sort of religious underworld that requires 10.5 IP's per person in the Vatican. Hrmm... I knew the new guy was up to no good... now how do we get to him... Quick, someone get me the IP ranges to the Vatican... I have some port scanning to do :D
- xioner, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"The least IP-dense country, the Democratic Republic of Congo, has been stricken by war during the main period of growth of the internet, and has likely suffered"
Really? I would have never guessed that a war-torn nation was suffering... but now that I know they need more IP addresses, I understand. -
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