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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6They say they're going to implement a Sims interface for the system. They'll see a virtual representation of you with a blue bar over your head indicating fatigue. On the bottom of the screen will be your other statistics like intelligence, happiness, friendship, and productivity. What the companies are going to try is to bring your hapiness, friendship, and intelligence way down, and boost the productivity.
But the worst part of the whole situation though, if you pee on the floor, they know... - subscriber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Imagine the liability issues a company would face if they had an incident and the records showed that some of the miners involved were fatigued. This gives the company incentive to give miners adequate rest (or to cheat).
- diggeddugg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Workers won't admit to being tired, or don't think they are that tired. On a night shift they will start to microsleep - brief periods of sleep lasting 1-2 seconds - for the most part they won't even be aware of these episodes. Even these are enough to cause an accident.
Ever see trucks (or cars) weaving in the mid afternoon, or in the early hours of the morning? You can bet that the driver is microsleeping. All too often they'll wake with a start, over-correct, and roll their vehicle. The police will hear the excuses of a deer ran in front, a car appeared out of nowhere, I was changing the radio - few will admit to having fallen asleep - we look at it as a weakness
This kind of device is meant for the haul drivers, not the miners underground. It's in the companies interest to monitor these people as they are driving multi-million dollar pieces of machinery - it's simple economics, not a way to penalize the driver. Why would the driver want to cheat the system - all that's going to happen is that they get told to go home, probably without pay.
People will deny being tired, accidents will happen. When you're in charge of a very big, expensive piece of machinery this solution makes sense. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Is it a clock?
- diggeddugg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Honestly you've hit on the biggest challenge for widespread adoption of this. I've been in situations where companies don't even want their managers to know about the problems of fatigue because it may increase liability - talk about burying your head in the sand. Juries these days will not accept the argument that a company running 24 hours a day has no idea that their workers may be fatigued - fatigue training and appropriate use of this sort of technology is a way to limit punitive damages
- ploink, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5In Soviet America, monitor fatigues you!
- Chozabu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2if you need a break but "computer says no" just take a nap on the keyboard...
really, management finding out the system didnt let you take a break, causing you to sleep on, and drool in a keyboard, permenantly disabling it will have a serious effect!
the effect may be you losing your job, but that is indeed quite serious! - diggeddugg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2While an amusing comment - it's not bad research to develop a device that could save lives and monetary losses - but there's plenty of researchers out there that could do with a system that you describe
- cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I always thought that was just the deadly radiation coming out of the CRT
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2your all looking at this the wrong way.
managment will use this to say "well the computer doesn't say your tired, why did you take a break?"
what a load of *****, like anyone should be told how they feel. - cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hehe, so all you've gotta do is sneak a few shots from a flask and you get yourself some break time!
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Uhh, why not just ask the worker if he/she is tired instead of blowing thousands on some retarted computer that'll guess when they're tired... ?
- hmb21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You can check our technology to actually do this at bowles-langley.com.
- ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2If the computer made suggestions about the worker - like when to take a break, or nap, or a lunch break...
I wouldn't get anything done. - crythias, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Heh. I didn't read "miners" and my first thought was computer workers. Fatigued? Yes, I can see the keyboard imprints in your cheek.
On topic: I'd think that blood oxygen levels would be a reasonable check for fatigue... - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1lol, a computerized system to monitor miners...
What are these miners? Slaves? Robots? Just ask them ffs, or let them rest if they feel tired. :-p
Why would these need to be monitored for fatigue but not any other highly physical work? - puggy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0In the event of one going nuts over too much stress, a goofy looking psychologist will pop out of nowhere and give the person a doll.
- cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I hadn't considered this facet of things, it seems like exactly what will happen; also, what about workers learning how to fool the system into thinking they are tired?
- SnOwie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Wow , another device to be Big Brother and monitor your workers, to fire the ones that don't give a 200% and work themselfs to death.
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I'm developing a computerised system that moniters the performance of the Australian researchers and tells their boss if they are getting so tired that they lose the sense of how to choose good research topic.
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