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- theNazz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+236That's one great reason not to own an iPhone.
- holyskeleton, on 10/11/2007, -5/+150***** THE RIAA/MPAA.
- PDAIsAOk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+132In other news, AT&T is set to develop and deploy technology that will attempt to keep people from wanting to use their network services.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+123Yet you ***** idiots clamor and drool over the iPhone.
I don't know what's worse, AT&T doing government favors (keep in mind they're currently under investigation for the NSA spying) or the idiot iPhone consumers who turn a blind eye to what AT&T does. - asforme, on 10/11/2007, -1/+105There goes the iPhone bittorrent app.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+81silly citizen, didn't you know this is a post 9/11 world? the terrorsts hate us for our freedoms, so we got rid of them. we sure showed them!
- Anth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+71AT&T, you just lost your common carrier status. I hope you enjoy the consequences.
- aznhomig, on 10/11/2007, -0/+60So I guess it's now "***** the RIAA, ***** the MPAA, and ***** AT&T."
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+60I was going to express a thought about a missed opportunity - but I don't want to end up in gitmo.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+43here's another novel idea: stop spying on everyone.
btw, i'm assuming you mean copyrighted material. what the mpaa and riaa puts out is hardly intellectual material. - damonic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+44I randomly send text and email on AT&T's network with the words "bomb", "attack", & "airplane." If we all do it, then their network data will be inaccurate and worthless.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+45***** gitmo. Don't ever be afraid of that place, or afraid to speak your mind. This is still a free country.
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+36Remember, just because your iPhone is "off" doesn't mean it isn't transmitting.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37/nsa/att
- qubesquare, on 10/11/2007, -0/+33'pirate'? I can't get guitar tabs because me learning to play my favorite songs some how steals money from artists(says RIAA). What kind of crap is that???? MPAA, RIAA, and all big media is suing us back into the stone age.
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/11/2007, -4/+33Who cares about the iPhone? The reality is a majority of all the traffic on the internet still flows through AT&T pipes. Go ahead and run a traceroute to just about any site. Hell, you have to go through AT&T tubes just to get to Google.com. The government knows this too—that's why they go after AT&T. Control the backbones, and you control everything. It doesn't matter if your ISP is Comcast, AOL, whatever—the goal is to create technologies that can be deployed at any node to filter and log material. Even if you have a Blackberry on Verizon, when you go to Google.com your data probably goes through at least one AT&T or AT&T & friends backbone.
- bobbybobington, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27AT&T: Your World Delivered... to the NSA... and the RIAA... what the hell we'll throw in the MPAA as well.
- RidesAPaleHorse, on 10/11/2007, -0/+27Exactly. I wonder if they've thought through the consequences to this decision. Once you start policing the data on your network, you lose your Common Carrier status and become responsible for anything your subscribers do.
- RedHerringHack, on 10/11/2007, -2/+28And ***** THE NSA
- Focher, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24I think it's funny that when it was revealed that AT&T was helping a government agency illegally intercept traffic from their network, the uproar was considerably less than the uproar when AT&T wants to do the same thing for the MPAA and RIAA.
What this really tells us is that the MPAA and RIAA have no intention of adapting their business models to digital distribution. It also tells us that AT&T hasn't heard of encryption technologies that will easily defeat any attempts to monitor the underlying data traffic. - BenBenMan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+24Wouldn't you get a nasty disease?
- thesarlacc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+23I was going to start building my own internet backbone, but then realised that I'm not a billionare.
- whatthefu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22AT&T is the little tattle tale bitch of the cell phone providers.
- GliTCH82, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19The solution to this problem is simple. We just need to create our own internet.
- pictureDIGGER, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18again.
- conwayblue, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18The Internet will soon be just like the cell phone networks. Micro-charges galore. It's so stupid that I'm paying $0.10 for a five word text message which probably costs AT&T about a millionth of cent.
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Switch ISPs? What differences does it make when majority of everything you do flows through AT&T pipes no matter who your ISP is?
- mharroun, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Should the police have the right to set up cameras in your house to check if you're doing something wrong?
- RpgActioN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Should I pirate anti-intellectual material, then?
- WolfDV, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16Its like AT&T is actively trying to push customers away
- Mc_Carter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19***** at&t
- HerrEisenheim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16Just to post that on Digg.com your packets had to flow through AT&T pipes. Several of them.
- Bob042, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Yeah, so you're good for most of popular music.
- RTourn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16"Those Who Would Sacrifice Liberty for Security Deserve Neither." -Franklin,
- blackfog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Kind of hard to switch ISPs when you only have one option for "high-speed" internet. GG net neutrality
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18we've been handing over freedom for security, might as well get an iphone out of the deal.
- darkphoenix939, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14what are these banner advertisement you speak of?
- KungFuJesus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14AT&T goes far beyond cell phones dude. They're not talking about cell phones. They're talking about the internet. Now, you may be thinking: "But I don't have AT&T as my ISP." This is irrelevant because AT&T basically owns the back end of America's internet. To post that comment your data traveled through AT&T's network. If AT&T pulls this ***** it'll affect everyone on the internet in the us pretty much
- Fartag, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Don't forget, you may be doing something illegal in your bedroom or bathroom too. Why make those places safe havens for crime-doers and terrorists? Allow Bed, Bath and Toilet Inc. to monitor your family in _every_ room of your house to make sure you aren't doing anything illegal there. If the room or facility isn't monitored then you can't use it, it's that simple. If you're not doing anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about, right?
- Farnn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Or they don't buy their stuff and just download it.
- bwebb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10When I can't be sure of a 3rd party's intentions when using data that could potentially be personal and important I think I opt on the side of caution and value my privacy.
Moreover, and this is the most important part, government is supposed to act according to the best interests of the private citizen. At what point did the term innocent until proven guilty become obsolete? If I'm not doing anything wrong, there should be no reason to monitor what I'm doing. Period.
I vaguely remember a quote that is perfectly applicable in this situation...if anyone know the actual, please post it... "Have an Honest Man write 4 lines for me and I'll make a devil of him." Something like that. The point being that unless you are naive and believe in the good nature of all man, you can recognize that people will tend to take advantage of others in order to further themselves. This is made doubly worse by the fact that the internet allows you to interact with people you will never see or meet. There is no personal element to ***** someone over so there is typically less guilt associated with the action because you can not see the personal impact.
The RIAA/MPAA are ALREADY powerful, thuggish organizations that insist on violating peoples' personal freedoms on a regular basis to extort money from them for their FUD campaign. Copyright law already allows them to bend the legal system to their will. You want to give them a better legal license to allow this to continue?
As for your BMW analogy, the locks are there for the protection of MY property. If their locks tracked how often I drove, where I drove, and how fast I drove, all while reporting this info to law enforcement agencies, you're ***** right I would be angry. That would be a proper analogy.
The moment people can no longer CHOOSE whether or not to break the law they become robots. When the time comes that I am no longer trusted to make the correct choice is the time when I (and I don't think I'm alone here) REALLY start making my choices and I can guarantee that those responsible for trying to make me a sheep will ***** pay.
It's all about the CHOICE. - ro0ke, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11I guess I'll stay off their network, too.
- willclarke, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I don't think I could go back to browsing porn that slowly.
- PatrickBrown, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10I see this often and I wonder how many of those that post or dig it actually discontinue purchasing material related to the RIAA or MPAA. I would guess not many.
Yes, you will say ***** them but turn around and support them through music and movie sales. Sacrifice your pleasure to pursue the greater good? No sir, you will not... unfortunately. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10hows the microphone on the iphone anyways
iphone > ATT > NSA - KungFuJesus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=Harry+Potter
welcome to the age of bit torrent - unusualbob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8we need google blacknet!
- Four20, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9agreed, I will be getting an openmoko myself
- tempusrob, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11You think with all they're doing for the gov't that there will be consequences? You should know better by now. :[
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