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- JoshChan, on 10/20/2007, -6/+79*****
- vofuse, on 10/11/2007, -3/+52We should let them buy the 2450MHz spectrum and see if food takes longer to microwave afterward.
- quaxon, on 10/20/2007, -4/+36Anyone else absolutely despise at&t and the whole telco industry in the states?
- subxero37, on 10/18/2007, -4/+27I've always wondered what people like Nikola Tesla would say if we'd have told him that certain frequencies (think: it's just a frequency, a number of how many cycles per second) would be bought and sold for billions and billions of dollars. I think he'd be pissed. I believe that the frequencies should be allotted to those who can demonstrate they will do the most good with it.
- KillerJ59J, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23Not everything evolves around Apple, sheep. And their contract for an exclusive deal with Apple will be up in a few years.
- xoineg, on 10/20/2007, -4/+22there goes the spectrum....
- digjam, on 10/18/2007, -10/+28please stop talking about iphone for sometime... i just want google to enter the market.. hopefully they will bring downt the monopoly held by att and verizon....
WAY TO GO GOOGLE..! - chilekillr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17What the ***** would they do with it? Google needs to buy it.
- Elranzer, on 10/20/2007, -0/+14This band of the 700MHz spectrum is not part of the auction that has been recieving so much publicity and drama on Digg. This part was already owned.
- catalysis, on 10/18/2007, -0/+10It's called a duopoly, and if google enters it will then be a oligopoly.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Yes, they're going to strike back by bidding on the 700MHz space that hasnt gone up for auction yet, like they've been planning from the start.
- tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9This isnt about the chunk of 700MHz that is going up for auction--that will be going up for auction on the 24th of January. This is about some of the 700MHz space that was already owned; AT&T just bought it off of them. More than one company will own part of the 700MHz space..
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12Google will no doubt strike back with a creative counter punch.
- Authustian, on 10/20/2007, -3/+10my thought exactly.
- mt066, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6In this case, the reason it's going for so much money is because they are trying to create a "third pipe" of broadband access to compete with the DSL/cable duopoly. The winner "owns" the spectrum and thus has the incentive to spend billions of dollars developing the network. If they weren't given the exclusive rights to the spectrum, then nobody would build that kind of network because there would be no guarantee someone wouldn't create a device that renders it unusable.
Everyone complains about cable/dsl and the lack of broadband coverage and here they are trying to do something about it. - tnoy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Apple wouldnt even pay $1M for Half-Life, and you expect them to hand over $2.5B for spectrum?
Or the $4.6B in the upcomming auction? - Aard88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Google has 192 "million" dollars hidden in their sofa cushions.
- bd0lan2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6This article misses a big part of the story. An Aloha subsidiary named HiWire was using the spectrum for a mobile TV service that has yet to launch. It has a trial in Las Vegas with T-Mobile USA. AT&T didn't just buy the spectrum... they bought the towers and other HiWire assets, too. To say Aloha wasn't doing anything much with the spectrum since it acquired it a few years back is a bit misleading. This is definitely a mobile TV play. Check it: http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/dvb-h-may ...
- CLShortFuse, on 10/20/2007, -0/+5That was really smart on AT&T's part. Aloha Partners won the FCC auction in 2001/2003. Spending $2.5 billion is probably cheaper than bidding for it in January. I guess this explains why they didn't have plans to expand their already existent 3G Spectrum. They can use this spectrum for 3G/4G. Since it's their spectrum, they own it, they can use it solely for AT&T Mobility and forget about the 1900MHZ. They'll have to keep the 1900mhz spectrum up and running because they can't just shutdown their network. Many users would have their 3G disabled on their phones. The 3G networks already standing are being upgraded to HSUPA but don't expect them to be expanded geographically. 1900mhz UMTS/HSDPA will be phased out. Unfortunately, that means your current 3.5G phone will be incompatible. :( I found it strange that since AT&T took over Cingular, the 3G rollover stopped.
According to data found here: http://www.dailywireless.org/2007/10/09/att-buys-7 ... that means it'll be a 1/4 of the price per 1000 sq miles if they switch to 700mhz. 4x cheaper, 4x the coverage per site. They need this to catch up to Verizon and Sprint. All they need a 1/4 of the number of towers as them and they'll catch up. If their devices run on 700mhz, it won't suck up so much power increasing battery life and also increasing propagation (4x). AT&T must have had its eye on this for a while. - rotten777, on 10/20/2007, -0/+5I'm not sure if "in the states" was necessary for the question to remain valid. I'm not sure I know of anywhere that has a telco industry that is highly respected and loved by their customers.
- colincornaby, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yes, let's just have everybody using the same spectrums and interfering with each other's signals. That's a great idea!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5it will probably depend on what your trying to cook , or where you bought it. Some stores would be profiting off of cooking in the ATT range and they had better pay for better access and cooking times....
- jonahan52, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Ummm... AT&T is worth 256 billion and google is worth 196 billion...
- ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -6/+10Because anything Apple touches turns to GOLD!!! All hail King Steve Midas!
- Icyfenix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4And possibly mooning AT&T. That strikes me as something Google would do.
- ThatsUnpossible, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4How do you define "good"? Who gets to define it? What if I disagree with the definition?
Why don't we charge companies for a limited-time license, highest bidder wins, and let the market decide whether the idea is good by choosing to do business with the company or not.
Oh, ***** that's what we are already doing... - yojiffyskippy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3What would you recommend?
- bbeahm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Will AT&T be satisfied with this chunk of spectrum and stay out of the rest of the auction or does this mean they are really serious and will do almost anything to get more? I hope it means they will stay out.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I wish I could digg you up more than once.
- GeauxLSU, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4You forgot these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States ...
And don't forget about these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cable_televi ... - AliDaGoat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3what is a spectrum?
- Icyfenix, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3@jesusgaytard
Jesus, you are a gay tard.
You just made that number up! - mikestro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What's capitalistic about "licensing" frequencies from the Almighty government?
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Anyone being able to freely use the same spectrum on a large scale would be a very very bad idea. It needs to be regulated, or it would just turn to *****.
- yojiffyskippy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think the quote was "hasn't done much with it" and not "hasn't done anything with it". So it sounds accurate to me. Who the heck watches mobile TV while in Vegas?
- antoniojvr, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2I will. Your mom should be here any moment now.
- bogatash, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5Its similar to selling a color.
- hightower77, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2Amen.
- ktrough, on 10/20/2007, -4/+6I don't mind them licensing the spectrum, but what the hell happened to the PUBLIC ACCESS that we were supposed to get in return for that license?!? Remember public access television and cable? It's all but disappeared all around the country. I miss those home brewed wacky TV shows....
- hightower77, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow, how cute, Google is worth $192 million, at&t is a $64 billion, yeah, billion company, if they aren't worth more now or when the Bell South merger goes through.
As big as you thing Google is, it's ***** compared to most Fortune 50 companies. - CLShortFuse, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2typos. when i said they own it, i mean it's solely theirs to use (licensed). no need to have FCC in the middle. it's like everything Verizon ever wanted but was too slow to realize that they could just buy the previous license owners.
- tcklord, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2TF19AVF your just lucky if you are not considered "Surplus" and get to keep your job after IBM takes over AT&T's IT
- cyberwiz01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2gg
- phioust, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2Hopefully at&t's already great service will continue this deal. I look forward to the advances this will bring!
- quaxon, on 10/20/2007, -0/+2how about japan and south korea?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You are more misinformed than the original poster is a bad typist.
- GeauxLSU, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You can't buy spectrum....You buy the license for the spectrum from the government. AT&T bought the licenses from a company who bought it from the government. The public still owns the spectrum. For those that are having a hard time grasping the concept: It is like renting a public building to do business.
- incabulos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That's what the FCC is for, and this is why it doesn't anymore:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture - incabulos, on 10/20/2007, -1/+2The market is not always so free. Where's my alternative to Ma Bell?
- FortyCaliber, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1not to mention it's also used for WiFi
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