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- JohnFive, on 11/02/2007, -1/+32Awwww, corporatism at its finest.
Come on now, would the free market ever develop a language like this? And isn't the government suppose to protect our privacy by not allowing ***** like this to happen? - tehowe, on 11/03/2007, -10/+34"Another sample program included in the manual shows how a Hancock program could create historical maps of a person's travels by recording nightly what cell phone towers a person's phone had used or pinged throughout a day. AT&T is currently defending itself in federal court from allegations that it installed, on behalf of the NSA, secret internet spying rooms in its domestic internet switching facilities. AT&T and Verizon are also accused of giving the NSA access to billions of Americans' phone records, in order to data-mine them to spot suspected terrorists, and presumably to identify targets for warrantless wiretapping."
This, of course, is the same government that didn't carry out 9/11. - inactive, on 11/02/2007, -2/+25Apple sucks for doing business with ATT.
- wvdavis, on 11/02/2007, -0/+17I can't be critical of them... they'll cut my service.
- Truzseeker, on 11/02/2007, -2/+17Will be dumping my Cingular/ATT cell service. Everything and anything that ATT has touched turns to garbage.
- Dragonskies, on 11/02/2007, -1/+13I don't think this is that big of a deal. There's nothing in that new programming language that AT&T can't accomplish using traditional C/C++. It just makes their task easier- instead of writing 100 lines of code, now they just need 50. Such surveillance has been going on for a long time already.
- tehowe, on 11/03/2007, -0/+12Think this must be post-Echelon, don't know the timelines well. But it looks to represent a huge efficiency upgrade, whatever it will be used in.
- snotrokit, on 11/02/2007, -0/+11unless your government are the ones that asked for the software in the first place
- zanzzz, on 11/02/2007, -0/+10Well at least this is the same government that had all this illegal surveillance in place BEFORE 9/11 and failed to prevent it.
- duggtodeath, on 11/02/2007, -1/+10Echelon?
- uselessexpert, on 11/02/2007, -0/+8Wow... Now we know why the FTC allowed that huge ass AT&T/Bellsouth merger to take place.
AT&T is now a one stop shop for citizen monitoring and data mining.
***** PRIVACY! That's how are current government sees it. - Talphin, on 11/02/2007, -0/+8I bet the guys who developed it are Diggers too... Damn you! I know you are reading this you bastards! I hope it was worth it!
- fuzzmeister, on 11/02/2007, -0/+8This is the same government that couldn't plant a single shred of evidence for WMD in Iraq.
- arusso, on 11/02/2007, -1/+7Not sure why people are digging you down, but I completely agree... This isn't some new capability they've never had before, it's just a means of doing it quicker and more efficiently...
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+6If poultry is spying on you I would see a doctor now...
- ruineraz, on 11/02/2007, -0/+6they all may be evil, but not all of them have backing from the federal gov't
- Tanktunker, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5I doubt anything will change.
Millions of customers will remain oblivious or apathetic to this and AT&T will sell the technology overseas so that the rest of the world can suffer too.
Unfortunately, big companies with huge amounts of money run by people with enough connections and political capital to choke an abstract whale win these sorts of things most of the time. - joebob, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Queue up fingers for pointing, and invade another country quick... they're on to us.
- Tarnum, on 11/02/2007, -4/+9"This, of course, is the same government that didn't carry out 9/11"
Yes, it is. No, you can't prove anything. Plausible deniability. - Topher06, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5Not exactly sure why a new language is necessary, as opposed to a well developed API that uses standard C or C++. But I can see benefits of language constructs like iterate over X filteredby Y, its like the foreach statement found in other languages like C#. I guess if there is enough market for a specialized version of a language, its going to be used. I
- ruineraz, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5yea when i used to work for a cellphone company, this would be a marketing persons wet dream. Also could be used to determine which sales employee are giving free service to their friends
- jackyyll, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5I just don't understand why the need a new programming language to accomplish as task like this. Why not just a library of classes that you can use? Why a whole new language?
- noahhoward, on 11/02/2007, -0/+5What the hell makes you think Congrees doesn't approve?
- nirav72, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5hahaha..hey Beavis..he said HanCock!
- ruineraz, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4I hope digger doesn't become a derogatory word :(
- PopcornDave, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4Since you can download the manual, couldn't someone write a GPL'd compiler for it?
- TwinTurboMike, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4That's it! I'm dumping my cell phones and switching to 2-way radios. Instead of paying $xxx a month on cell phone bills, I'll just keep buying everyone 2-way radios. I'll only be able to place calls up to 18 miles, but oh well. :-)
- Frostman3D, on 11/02/2007, -0/+4running our mouths is the only way we have to even remotely have a chance to stop it.
- noahhoward, on 11/02/2007, -1/+5Yes the free market would develop something like this.
- DeFex, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3among other things.
- damian75, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3This is a massively bad thing for personal privacy and the only way to fight it is to hit them were it hurts I know I will be selling all the ATT stock I own and would encourage everyone else to do the same
- Tanktunker, on 11/02/2007, -0/+3Enjoying my right to privacy.
- noahhoward, on 11/03/2007, -2/+5AT&T isn't around now. They were bought by Cingular, Cingular just made the horrible decision to keep the name.
- Tanktunker, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4Godwin's law.
- eastshores, on 11/02/2007, -1/+3It's a common theme now in software development, you've probably even heard it termed Domain Specific Language (DSL). A classic example is the SQL language, as it is very closely tied to working with relational databases and data concepts, a language specific to working with the type of data AT&T has would make it easier to work with, more cost effective, and probably more per formant if the right people are building the language.
- thespudmall, on 11/02/2007, -2/+4Damn now I have to!
- Firehed, on 11/02/2007, -2/+4What, and you think some other cell company would have been better? They're all evil.
- zeromancer, on 11/02/2007, -4/+6I don't think AT&T will be around much longer. the higher-ups have no foresight to see that the ***** will hit the fan when the bush administration falls. greedy bastards.
- JoshChan, on 11/02/2007, -1/+3OK I know this country is turning into Fascist. Now just shut the ***** up.
- ubergeek09, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2This is somewhat scary. I think I just ditch my AT&T service for my cell phone now.
- wshs, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Do you have curtains or shades? If so, why? What have you been doing that's got you so scared?
- modena, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Kindof like LISP macros I guess. Tuning the language to better suit the problem domain.
- PopcornDave, on 11/02/2007, -1/+3For long distance you can always use carrier pigeons - unless the hawks get them...
- jackyyll, on 10/30/2007, -1/+3How's that bubble treating you, boy?
- danielsan1701, on 11/02/2007, -2/+3I want to be a patriot, but I want to have an iPhone. Why must I choose?
- logandurand, on 11/02/2007, -0/+1That's what's scary . . . making this kind of surveillance more practical will mean it gets used more . . . which is BAD.
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_ ...
- UserSpace, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1BFD. That could be done in ~12 lines of Perl. God that C/C++ stuff is really hard to read. Even compared to Perl.....
- tmcdigg, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1If there wasn't another reason AT&T gives you to CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION to their service.... this just adds to the pile.. and it's mounting.. you can be sure this will cause friction with the Apple Iphone crowd too, eventually, that's why many are looking to UNLOCK their iphones.
Assimilate this!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YDiZefRj78g - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Oh *****, this kind of thing was developed decades ago, now they want you to know about it......
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