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- hehe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15You've Got Movies...And Spyware!
- ridgelawrence, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19AOL is not trusted in my book, They should at least change their name... but they'll always be AOL inside...
- smtelegadis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Your right. You should say "CRAPWARE"
- ahknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"We're sorry, content protected by Digital Rights Management is not available on the Macintosh."
Well screw you, too.
/waits for iTunes - palmer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Uh, no: "Downloads will cost between $10 and $20 dollars each"
Aside from the redundancy of putting the dollar sign and then saying "dollars", this news tells you all you need to know to dismiss this boondoggle. This garbage will cost as much as a DVD, for something undoubtedly compressed to oblivion and watchable only on a computer. And that cost doesn't include the time you'll wait for it to download, regardless of your Internet connection.
Then, instead of lounging in your comfy living room with your big TV and sound system, you can watch macroblocked, artifact-ridden "video" while hunched over your keyboard in front of your computer.
And if there IS any option to burn to DVD, you'll be recompressing and degrading this crap even further. Seriously people, video quality is bad enough. Look at digital cable and DirecTV: There is nothing to watch on our state-of-the-art TVs already; don't vote with your dollars to make things even worse. - redwoodtree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9-- Let's see, they're getting rid of the ISP
-- The IM client has more users than any other in the US
-- The walled garden is now free
-- As of two weeks ago they are now free. - smtelegadis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+910 to 20 bucks a download just buy the dvd.
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Ok, so I'll download a DRM movie for $20 without any of the bonuses found on physical DVDs??
- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6O RLY.
This is the same company who released over 500,000 user search logs?
Imagine a scenario where they released what types of videos users searched for to the public? AoHELL is a privacy nightmare. No thanks. - bi0metric, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Ok -- Who uses AOL any more?? And I would not touch aol if it was the last ISP on the earth!
- jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5AOL for free is still overpriced.
- rubored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Free spyware with every movie!
Hmmm, does the video-sharing system have a Client Log?
In a couple of months: "CL-1034a: Accessed 'Back Door Sluts 9' at 3:15a.m. 25/08/2006"
Not in my goodbooks, AOL...
Despite public stunts like this... - ahknight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5It has DRM, and requires Windows.
- xenoploid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why won't AOL just DIE. Apple must be pissed!
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6AOL's last stand?
-ISP sucks
-IM client is crap
-There "walled garden" has nothing special
-Overpriced - zonk3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Rice, that's a load of crap. If that were true then PGP would have long ago been cracked. It's a good system and in 15 years it has yet to be cracked (that we know of anyway, /me looking at the NSA). Having the source code doesn't mean anything unless it was poorly designed in the first place.
The real reason why we don't have open source DRM is that most of the open source community is opposed to DRM. If you don't have programmers that back the idea it is unlikely to happen. I think the flipside of this is that the FUD that Rice just said is why music and movie studios won't get behind the idea because they fear that if the source is in the public it will be easier to crack.
In reality, if the studios would get behind the idea and make a call out to programmers and security analysts to make a strong and yet fair system it might actually happen. But the chances of that are pretty slim so don't hold your breath... - cberesfo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4it's so cute how AOL keeps trying to be cool/relevant
- CausticNoise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"AOL is not trusted in my book, They should at least change their name"
Nah, all they need is a magical, pansexual, non-threatening spokesthing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uco5Ed-5y2U (1:10 onwards) - dbug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey, Grant Imahara from the Mythbusters is using AOL on his notebook. AOL must be cool now!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Come on AOL, I admire you for putting up a fight but just die dammit!
- dnthomps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Right now http://corp.aol.com/ shows:
Members Online Now:
2,539,787
SPAM Blocked Today:
1,735,833,840
This month:
41,427,730,118
Instant Messages
Sent Today:
1,362,432,166
The numbers seem to update every 30 seconds to a minute. - sdo1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they're free of DRM, then I'll buy. If they have ANY manner of DRM, I'll pass. That's my final offer.
- deepdish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Call me naive, but why can't there be some form of open source, universal DRM?
I don't trust either AOL or Microsoft.
I don't like buying anything with DRM (god how I loved allofmp3)
But if there has to be DRM, I wish there could be some kind of platform independent, media player independent, universal DRM. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The problem with DRM on computers is as Bruce Schneier put it "trying to make water not wet."
Put that behind the fact that people aren't dumb. They know when they are buying crippleware. I suspect Vista will be heavily laden with DRM modules. I see a bright future for Apple. - Amigaice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like the IN2TV stuff better. I like just watching shows for free. Pinky and the Brain and Max Headroom. They got some cool shows. I like that the are focused on content. There is more money in that.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe we need a silver tipped spike?
- dnthomps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I work technical support for the largest accredited online university in the US and quite possibly the world by now... THERE ARE TONS of people who still use AOL. OMFG there are a lot. They say that only 5% of the 700,000 online student's call in. I would say out of those 35,000 students I would say that 1/3 (about 11,550) are on AOL's dial-up service. You have to figure that out of the other 95% (665,000) of online students, somewhere between 1/4 (166,250) and 1/3 of them probably use AOL.
My estimates here are low. Their may be A LOT more people out there that use AOL than I am accounting for. From what I have laid out though roughly 177,800 people out of the 700,000 online students that attend this university are using AOL.
This is about 25%.
Can anybody back this up? Does anybody know where some recent information is on AOL users... Other than the search data.. lol.
I would be interested to know the TRUE percentage of US households that have AOL services. - bi0metric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The only reason why AOL is around is because there are people that don't knw really anything about the internet and they see AOL and they are like wow America Online why not get it. That's the only reason why they have people.
- Stark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i'd be shocked if the RIAA or MPAA and their respective industries ever did anything progressive or cool when it comes to online distribution.
So, I'm still not shocked after this announcement. - eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Despite AOL's mistakes, certainly this might be a leg up for them. We'll see how this progresses."
They will have titles like Battlefield Earth, Weekend at Bernies II, Police Academy III. - theunderground5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1this is kinda kool i just hope they don't release all the video search reccords
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I will never have anything to do with AOL ever. They can offer free this free that, bottom line, they abuse their customers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah. ***** that...
AOL trying to buy back a few 'seats' in the Trust Stakes, not working for me.
Releasing Private Seach Logs aint cool, bruh.
-NO DIGG! - betona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article doesn't state it, but according to story below, you will NOT be able to burn the movie to a DVD. Now my computer is in the study, so I'm not about to gather the family around the desk to watch a movie...
http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2006/08/21/daily36.html?b=1156132800^1335680&hbx=e_abd
...So it's a total non-starter. - IcerC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1AOL needs to realize you can't just overcharge the consumers out the ass like back in the good ol' days.
People are getting used to this "free" internet and you need to understand this. You can't sit on your brand name, you know "AOL" slow Internet and poor service.
It's hard to see them successful. - IcerC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have to say "WAY TO GO AOL"
No I will just sit back and see how it goes.
I for one will not pay for anything with DRM.
besides even if I wanted to.
Guba. http://www.guba.com/pp/buy/3000011821 http://www.guba.com/a/618931/a/watch/3000006337
Movielink. (only ie thouhgh) - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The news: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060824005308&newsLang=en
- milkbot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1lordqps do you have a link where you got that info, i was just wondering what is dominant in Canada?
- lordqps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Although u put it perhaps not the best tone, you are correct, that the fact of the matter is that there are more registered AIM users then msn and yahoo users and waaaay more active users on AIM then either MSN or yahoo. The thing is each of the big messenger networks have concentration in different geographical areas. In other words to you it may seem like more people use msn because were you live msn is the dominate messenger service. France for example is almost completely on the MSN system, but america for example is almost entirely on AIM. But if you look at the actuall added up numbers AIM is far more used service. MSN actually has the fewest users of the big three (yahoo, AIM, MSN).
- ch3t, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2you all say that nobody uses AOL.. well, i bet you if they shut down AIM, the messaging world would come to a grinding halt.
on top of that, i bet 95% of you use AIM for messaging.. so how can you go around saying AOL sucks and you'd never use it, when you're probably only it ~16 hours a day? - lordqps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0But thats just it every one on here says and will no doubt will keep saying it but the thing is they are successful, they bring in a huge cashflow. Not saying they are a perfect company nor that they dont do stupid things, but they do manage to make money and quite frankly thats all the matters in the end in our capitalist world and its more then a lot of other internet companies can say at the moment. Just because you wish something was something else doesn't make what it is a bad business model or what you want it to be a successful business modal.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0AOL is getting really desperate.
That makes me happy. That's a lie, I love AIM. But AOL needs to start making SMART decisions. I'm sure we could all cite examples when AOL has been not so smart, like very recently. They USED to own the internet when dial-up was the common internet connection to have, but now they're struggling to keep up with the times, because they no longer have a special gimmick. - Jammerdelray, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe they'll finally give movielink a run for their money.
- Rice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1There is not the same word as their.
But yeah, point all the same, AOL's got nothing except all the bandwidth twit.tv needs. - badtz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Personally, I'd rather pay Apple for the downloads than AOL.
- razei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1More people use MSN and Yahoo! Messenger than AIM. As more people flock to msn, so will their friends. Eventually it'll get to the point where if AOL and AIM shut down, only a handful of people would care.
- artur.ventura, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1The pot was way good! I am seeng AOL instead Apple!!!
- Rice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This can't exist because it would be EASILY reverse-engineered because the source code would be freely available. Thus, the DRM would be USELESS to the content providers who want to use it.
Nice idea though. - dnthomps, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1This is the kind of crap that keeps AOL afloat. People are stupid and they will use this service. They just better make sure they start the download on Monday so they can hopefully watch it by next Sunday.
Spend $15 a month and download everything you want... fast as your download speeds allow. http://www.newshosting.com (If you want more information you can email my username at realm304 dot com) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1SHut up biootch I use google talk. And if they shut down, then MSN and Google talke will be all happy about it.
The tubes will not go down for AOL. Nobody will miss them. -
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