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- mykool, on 12/18/2007, -5/+290Wow, if this is true this thing needs to go class action - put my name on the list. This is total BS.
- Scopitone, on 12/18/2007, -3/+257Someone needs to look into why razor cartridges are over ten ***** dollars for 4 refills. I don't think they're made out of flying saucer parts.
- tdamore, on 12/18/2007, -2/+203I gave up on inkjets after I paid more for my first set of ink refills than I originally paid for the printer. I purchased a Dell laser printer 3 years ago for $149 and it's still going strong after 9000 pages. For color photos, I just go to costco and pay .11 per print :-)
- TehSwat, on 12/18/2007, -4/+125And we thought gas was expensive.
- Bridea, on 12/18/2007, -2/+101Ink DRM. That's crazy stupid.
- FunkyELF, on 12/18/2007, -0/+54I don't really care if I get any money. The important thing is for HP and or Staples to get their asses sued off and prevent others from doing the same.
Cell phone industry should be next - sexybobo, on 12/18/2007, -4/+53I mostly use my Sharpie to print directly on DVD. Doesn't look as good but cost about $100 less
- krnldmp, on 12/18/2007, -0/+48The manufacturers (all of them) basically GIVE unsuspecting consumers all but the top model printers and make the profit on the ink cartridges. Been that way for a long time.
- calon9, on 12/18/2007, -1/+48While I agree with your statement, I don't agree with: "They have there place, but not on cases like this."
A class-action vehicle for this case is useful; Not to get money back to consumers, but to bring the fact that printer manufacturers are 'ink bullies' and that HP and Staples allegedly entered into this agreement, and penalizing them from a monetary and publicity point of view for doing so. - ncc74656m, on 12/18/2007, -3/+49Mach 3 blades cost 2 Elerium 115 and 1 Alien Alloys, actually. How many engineers would you like to assign?
- munkyxtc, on 12/18/2007, -0/+40key term here is "choose" which HP and Staples were preventing the consumer from doing.
- MrTito, on 12/18/2007, -0/+38Crap. I work in printing. I'll tell the guys around the shop and we'll go ahead and close down the company. Thanks for the heads up.
- yogurtslinger, on 12/18/2007, -2/+34Ink prices are ***** outrageous. That's why I only use printers that have seperate tanks for each color and get my ink directly from an ebay seller for $1.60 per cartridge.
Sadly enough, it's getting pretty tough to find a printer like that anymore. It seems that they are all making them with the tri-color catridges which I will never buy. - crash331, on 12/18/2007, -2/+29I wonder why? Maybe because the lawyers are the ones doing the resarch, going to court, presenting the case, etc. while all the consumers do is sit at home and say "GIMME MONEY!"
Lawsuits like that aren't meant to make millionaires out of everyone that ever purchased an ink cartridge. It's to penalize the people who make the ink cartridges. - hifiDesign, on 12/18/2007, -2/+28Make no mistake, you get what you pay for, but printer ink prices have been THE largest ongoing scam in the past 20 years (not perpetrated by Enron, Freddie Mac, or the government, of course).
- utdrew182, on 12/18/2007, -1/+26It's called the razor blade model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce) - icutcheese, on 12/18/2007, -0/+24Hey, does anyone know where I can get ink for, I dunno....$4,000.00 per gallon? 50% off people!
- csm888, on 12/18/2007, -5/+26I pay a store to stop stocking my competitors goods... this isnt a free market, its anti trust, and for the sake of the consumer it needs to be stopped. The free market isnt really as free as people would like because people are greedy bastards and laws are needed to stop them.
- shockingbird, on 12/18/2007, -0/+20It'd also be different if the ink was worth a fook and didn't fade as soon as it was in just a bit of sunlight.
- EdgarVerona, on 12/18/2007, -0/+18Heh, I was wondering about that!
Strangely enough, I went to Staples just yesterday to get ink for my wife's HP printer... and I saw that every other brand had 3rd party ink available... and Staple's prices for HP ink was outrageous.
I walked out the door and over to Best Buy. I didn't find generic ink there either, but the price was about 25% cheaper anyways so I grabbed it.
These guys are making money hand over fist... and I thought that coke was bad (5 cents to make a 20 oz. bottle vs. $1.50 retail at stores). I would think that ink wouldn't be THAT much more expensive to make ink such that it would be a comparable percentage of $X to make vs. $8,000 retail. - CedEx, on 12/18/2007, -1/+16I'd rather get railed once on the printer purchase than get railed time and time again for each ink cartridge purchase.
- computerwiz_222, on 12/18/2007, -0/+15So when you hand in your final paper, you just drop a charged laptop into the pile?
- yikiad, on 12/18/2007, -15/+30class action lawsuits are mostly *****. the only ones that benefit are the lawyers. The represented consumers will probably get around $5, and the lawyers will get millions. They have there place, but not on cases like this.
- noahhoward, on 12/18/2007, -0/+15Reminds me of an office email attachment that listed some common liquids we consume and their price per gallon compared to the price of gas. Fortunately I've never needed to buy a gallon of Pepto Bismol ($63.84) or Tylenol ($111.84). But $8k? Jebus.
- Doznufus, on 12/18/2007, -1/+14They also anal bang you by changing the ink catridge types, so that when you have to replace your printer, you can't use the leftover ink from the broken printer and have to throw them away.
- tremor_tj, on 12/18/2007, -0/+12And yet, they charge us $10 a pill.
- Weather, on 12/18/2007, -0/+12Forget inkjets. Get a cheap full duplex laser printer. Not only will you not be purchasing overpriced ink, you'll be spending half of what you used to on paper.
Win/win - MarkOfTheDead, on 12/18/2007, -0/+12I like laser, Toner's entire purpose in life is to be magnetically stuck to paper then burned until it's melted to the paper to become part of it. No matter how you look at it, that's pretty metal.
- Chewie67, on 12/18/2007, -0/+11"Ink is expensive but not horrible expensive"
JUST THIS AFTERNOON I went to OfficeMax for ink replacements for my Epson C88. The four cartridge set was $53.
I'd say that's expensive. - wherl78, on 12/18/2007, -1/+12Just paid $135.96 to refill my ink. Merry Christmas.
- EdgarVerona, on 12/18/2007, -0/+11It sure looks true. Like I said in a post below, I went to staples just yesterday to find an HP ink cartridge, and generics were nowhere to be found... but there were generics for every competing brand of printer.
- Metal_Hurlant, on 12/18/2007, -0/+10I miss that game.
- codyman, on 12/18/2007, -1/+11this is why I digg my b&w laser printer in which I get refill kits for about ~$5 off eBay that last thousands of pages.. and then in terms of color, pay costco 17 cents a picture for quality prints that would probably cost over a buck if I were to print them myself...
- brstilson, on 12/18/2007, -0/+10Yep, it's the Gillette business model. Buy a Mach 3 razor for $7, and 4 refill blades cost $8 to $10
- fkr3, on 12/18/2007, -7/+17Because you personally don't need a printer for anything, you just use Google right? Idiot.
- EdgarVerona, on 12/18/2007, -2/+12Aren't we cheeky today?
The printer was my wife's printer from before we got married. She does graphic design, so it needs to be a high quality printer... and there's no way we could afford a printer of this quality currently. We're stuck with it until we can afford a comparable quality printer of another brand. - ryan83189, on 12/18/2007, -0/+9I found a laser printer in the trash. I have made over 400 pages of print/copies and it shows no sign of running out of toner. Sure it blows the circuit breaker sometimes but hey, im not buying proprietary cartridges.
- biznatch11, on 12/18/2007, -1/+9FTA: "Adding insult to injury, most printers are lying, filthy ink thieves, according to a recent study, misreporting that they are low on ink when they are not."
Who are these people that are throwing out perfectly working ink cartridges just because their computer tells them to? I keep using the cartridge until the printouts start getting blank lines/gaps in them. - mikedoth, on 12/18/2007, -0/+8This is exactly why I switched to laser. Best 300 I ever spent. Never dries up, and prints thousands of pages per cart.
- danielson0014, on 12/18/2007, -2/+10I found out the hard way about this scam not long ago. I found a cannon printer/ scanner that can print and scan at photo quality for
$50!! Great printer, works great, really fast, good quaility, couldn't be happier. Until I saw how much ink cost $95 before taxes!! Why should ink cost twice the price of the printer!! I'm gald someone is doing something about it finally. - phantom_mullet, on 12/18/2007, -0/+8Epson and Canon third party cartridges are around $2 a pop, and they work well since the printhead is on the printer rather than on the cartridge (which accounts for the crappier quality of third party/remanufactured cartridges). I am a college student with an Epson printer-scanner-copier (which I bought for $60 as a display model) and have gone three years on about $20 of (mostly black) third party ink (bought from eBay and a site called Megatoners). I use the hell out of that printer, too.
The only caveat with those printers (with the printhead built in) is that they can clog if left sitting for too long, so I'd mainly recommend an Epson/Canon to someone who prints regularly. I haven't had this problem with mine, though. - mustang460, on 12/18/2007, -0/+8class action lawsuits are not about making money, there about making change
- nightsweat, on 12/18/2007, -2/+10HP color Laserjet 1600 is only $300 when your Dell dies and you want both laser quality and color. Nice machine.
- tedjar, on 12/18/2007, -0/+8Cannon uses separate cartridges, I have the ip4300, its around $99 and it is a great printer....
- theutopian, on 12/18/2007, -0/+7I did the same thing years ago after I spent a ton of money on the latest and greatest HP printer. I used to print a ton of my own photos. But they NEVER dried. They would always stick to the album pages YEARS later. The pictures fade, all around look like crap. The thing was a tank with 6 cartridges, each like $30 a piece. Worst investment I ever made. I got rid of it less than a year later, bought a $40 brother laser printer off ebay, started using shutterfly and haven't looked back since.
- spiralspirit, on 12/18/2007, -3/+10Still, there are laws against such practices for a reason. If every retailer did it, you'd pretty much have nowhere else to go.
- psykiv, on 12/18/2007, -0/+7Walgreens... Only they dont have that guarantee... Its like $10 for black and $15 for color.
- willfe, on 12/18/2007, -1/+8"all the consumers do is sit at home and say 'GIMME MONEY!'" ... having also been ripped off/defrauded/scammed in the first place.
Just thought I'd point that out :) - dwright99, on 12/18/2007, -0/+7Still a lot of players in this field. Hell, I noticed even Walgreens refills cartridges cheap now. That won't affect the first purchase on a printer to get cartridges but from then on, the hell with them.
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