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88,000 UK Homes Get 100 Mbps via Sewer-Line Broadband

uk.news.yahoo.com — Bournemouth has become the first town in the UK to get super-fast internet connections - via the sewerage system. More than 88,000 homes and businesses in the Dorset town will benefit from internet speeds up to 100Mbps under the scheme, considerably faster than consumer broadband speeds on the market.

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  • Topher06, on 05/13/2008, -5/+63Thats the ***** right there!
    • javier182gt, on 05/13/2008, -3/+4I see what you did there.

      They don't just drop the kids at the pool, they also drop the cables.
    • mattsx, on 05/13/2008, -1/+12Downstream bandwidth is fast, but I heard the upstream is somewhere between crappy and piss-poor.
    • Oppslagsverk, on 05/13/2008, -6/+1Read your comment 3 times before i took the *****.
    • toggo, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Google were there first!
      http://www.google.com/tisp/
    • maninalift, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4This story again? I'm sure 100Mbps is a gross exaggeration but even if it is (reliably) one 10th of that, that would be pretty good.
      • roodammy44, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6I'm getting a reliable 16MBps just over copper cable in london.
        Where do you live, a remote island or something?
        Very few downloads manage to max out my connection
        • ccaazz, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5i live in london too, within 3km of an exchange, and yet i cant get any higher than 1.5mbits speed (well, i couldnt until a month ago when i switched to be, and they upped my speed to about 4 mbits with adsl2 technology). I have no friends in london who can obtain speeds past the 1.5mbit speed - shows that our copper lines are *****!

          don't be fooled anyone who doesnt live in the uk, our speeds are appaling, no one in reality gets above 1.5 mbits (at least in london) unless you live right next door to the telephone exchange.

          so, to conclude, yes, as manialift says above me, a speed of 10mbits would be pretty incredible for the uk (unfortunately)

          • thomashauk, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1On adsl yeah because it is running on crap, cheap phone lines.
            On cable (virgin media) it doesn't.
          • ccaazz, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1yes, but unfortunately, firstly, there are plenty of areas in london that cable doesnt reach, its not universal, and secondly your on virgin media, who i believe throttle your max downloading speeds during peak times anyway, rendering your line rubbish and far more useless than my unthrottled 4mbit copper line right now :) (at least i think virgin media do?)
          • jakem1, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I'm 1.8 Km from my exchange in London and I get just over 10 Mbps. It's a bit of an exaggeration to suggest that nobody gets more than 1.5 Mbps. Having said that, I can't wait for 100Mbps - I think my area gets fiber in 2012 and it can't come soon enough.
      • spudnic, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3I've had reliable 20mbps in the UK for over a year now...
    • ramiro, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1If the connection goes through the sewer, the article's screen shot should say "Brownloading..."
  • krawkula, on 05/13/2008, -1/+20The sewer mutants will love this.
    • sanman, on 05/13/2008, -1/+28hah, ninja turtles can keep their command center online ;P
  • pmpsta, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7That's pretty unconventional from where I'm from but brilliant. I could see many hard-up municipalities around here leasing out sewer rights for a new competitor to enter the marketplace. More money for them but, the more I think about it the more likely outcome is for the big players (Comcast & ATT) to probably do a back-room deal to keep things as they are. Scratch that.
  • Kmap, on 05/13/2008, -2/+28I'm holding out for Google TiSP
  • Babau, on 05/13/2008, -0/+11Why isn't this happening everywhere? It makes so much sense.
    • lukeev, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Only when natural market forces allow it. Just don't let your local/national state subsidise broadband, it will open up a world of pain, believe me.
      • thomashauk, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Because important, beneficial, nationally important infrastructure should have no government aid...
        Just like the roads, electricity, water, phone, gas, rail, lighting, television... etc networks don't
        Oh wait
  • WellDigga, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2efficient and innovative
  • darkfate, on 05/13/2008, -4/+19Love the OS 9 screen!
  • PolarZoe, on 05/13/2008, -6/+13Duplicate: http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_TiSP_Joke_Becomes ...
    • dukeochutney, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1technically speaking that article is a duplicate of the yahoo story as it referenced it.
  • xwfilm, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4*****, that's fast.
  • heystoopid, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1Gives new meaning to all the crap on the intertubes !
  • Bakie, on 05/13/2008, -9/+3My ***** internet is faster then you're ***** broadband!
  • mattsx, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1just when you thought the internet was filthy enough... now it's literally soaked in your neighborhood's excrement.
  • Pixelante, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2My God, it's full of rats!
  • MMilitia, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Nice, I'm moving to Bournemouth at the end of this month. I'll Definitely be keeping an eye on this. Any word on pricing?
  • ayeroxor, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3sewerage?
  • FunkyWorm, on 05/13/2008, -0/+13http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2003-09-08/

    It seemed like a stupid idea five years ago......
  • JAFFA, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Gaaah! I have to move yet again! 24Mbps isnt fast enough anymore!
    • Chris4, on 05/13/2008, -0/+524Mbps? You lucky bastard. I get 2Mbps.
      • diggu2008, on 05/13/2008, -1/+0Dude!!!!! 56 kbps here........
      • terrablebyte, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Not sure if you'll be able to get it but...
        http://bethere.co.uk
        • JAFFA, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Yay! Thats my ISP :-) I was on Bulldog (8mbps) til about 18 months ago. Be were in my girlfriends area (E London) so I moved in with her! :-p
      • cmapes2, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1You lucky bastard, I get 1.5mbps, and I have to pay $39.99/mo for it.

        What the ***** is wrong with Verizon? Give me goddamn Fios already!
  • Rcbot, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Shame i live about 2 miles from bournemouth so will miss out. Im currently on 8mb Sky which means i get about 750k in reality :(
    • aussieNickuss, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3Oh you poor sod on 8Mb. Come live down under and see what it's like surviving on 1.5Mb @ $95/month.
    • pault107, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Are you mixing up your bytes with your bits? I remember when a friend of mine first got broadband many years ago, he was deeply disspointed when he realised that 512K didn't actually mean you can dowload at 512 Kilobytes per second.
  • pinje, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Well I hope they enjoy it whilst the rest of the country struggles with age old phoneline and exchanges which can handle about 2-3mb connections. Hopefully this will be rolled out countrywide over the next couple of years.
  • bobbles, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Noooo! You're clogging the tubes!!
  • 3leggedHorse, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8 Copper cables suck. BE broadband have 24 meg available when I phoned them up they said the best I could get was 4meg, because I am 5KM from the exchange what a load of crap.
    On another note if it pisses it down in Bournemouth they might have a problem with flooding because of the extra space that cable is taking up.
    • maninalift, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Optic cable is _more_ lossy I think but can handle higher data density. You just need to add lots of [whatsit thingies] to clean up the signal and send it on. I say "just" but this is a major cost.
    • dsmx, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Yes those 1/2 inch diameter fibre optics take up a lot of space.
    • mossblaser, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Do you have any idea how thin optic cable bunches are and how large sewers are?
    • ccaazz, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1i have been with BE for the last few months and have loved them! - no real download limits to speak of, they dont throttle any internet traffic, and they will (as a rough guide) probably double to tripple your current connection speed if your using adsl1 (BE use adsl2 i believe?).

      also, any folks who don't live in the uk, and are reading this, dont be fooled, uk internet service speeds are crap, my friends and i all live in london, and i know no one (except for myself with BE) who can get above 1.5mbits. Until i upgraded to BE, i couldn't get past 1.5mbits on my line, and that was living within 3 km of an exchange i believe, shows the ***** of our old copper infrastructure.
  • MCA2142, on 05/13/2008, -0/+28Hey UK,

    Start seeding. Share the love.
  • YodaJones, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7Dude, you totally have a 100 Mbps Internet connection coming out of your toilet.
  • soapbeard, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9This may only work because of the large victorian over-engineered brick sewers we have in cities in the UK. I believe more modern sewers employ smaller buried pipes which may not be as appropriate for this kind of thing.
    • maninalift, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3I think your right but maybe savings could still be made by laying sewer and cable together.
    • RadiatedAnt, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1chicago has an oversized non victorian etcetera cetera pipes, now toss the cables in mayor daley! because I assume he reads digg too.
  • mohamedmansour, on 05/13/2008, -0/+6Yet again, in North America (Canada) we are struggling with 800kbit upload and 10mbit download ... It has been like 10 years since they upgraded from 240kbit to 800kbit upload. It is all for money ... as Nortel once said, the network we have is not even consumed. We could all get 100mbit to our household if they let us, but why would they do that? They can make more money to give us *****.
    • maninalift, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1But think of the feet of cable per user in Canada in comparison to UK and all the stations that have to be added along the way to clean up the signal.
    • algedonode, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0The late Stafford Beer thought that the cyberspace superhighway should be funded by the government in the same way as roads and utilities as part of the national infrastructure. Who's Stafford Beer? He gave a series of lectures entitled Designing Freedom on Canadian Broadcasting in the early seventies.
    • celticchrys, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1You poor baby. Here in Appalachia, my parents are in a location where dial-up is the only option available, and the phone lines in their area are so decrepit, that 26kbit is the maximum connection speed. You have it SO bad, you poor thing, with 800kbit... how do you live?
  • Treoinmypocket, on 05/13/2008, -6/+4The Brits have the dirtiest porn....
    • ericcire, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4I'm pretty sure that title goes to the Germans.
      • Treoinmypocket, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5u do realize I was making a joke about the broadband cables running thru the SEWERS right?
      • Echosphere, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Apparently, you haven't seen what the Japanese are doing these days. Makes the Krauts look like knitting grandmas. Any country that makes good cars also makes good....
        • ericcire, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I'd agree that the rice-eaters make weirder smut, but the German stuff is grosser/dirtier.
  • dimitrisokolov, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2I'm sure you'll get a ***** connection.
  • zongamin, on 05/13/2008, -3/+5This is a ***** duplicate
  • dhdenny, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5It's all fun and games until granny downloads a trojan and becomes a member of a botnet and starts DOS'ing russian porn sites at 100mbps. I'm assuming upstream is capped significantly?
  • dojocasino, on 05/13/2008, -4/+0What a ***** situation.
  • SuperVepr308, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2Does the connection drop when too many people are "seeing a man about a dog"?
    • ChayD, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3or "dropping the kids off at the pool"
      • SuperVepr308, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Nice! Brought a smile to my face:)
  • hnsez, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3The Internet is a series of tubes
  • hnsez, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1The Internet is a series of tubes but it better not be a ***** installation
  • GlassAgate, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7I feel sorry for the poor sap that has to go down
    there to perform maintenance.
  • anarchytv, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Rats love to chew on 100bt cable.
    • GlassAgate, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1So, we need to install computer controlled
      turrets to deal with them?
      Hmmm...I think that would do.
  • Andreasvb, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3And some here in Sweden are going to get 1Gb soon. http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.160850 (In Swedish)
  • hugepedlar, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3I live in Bournemouth but I'm emigrating to Australia in a couple of months. I'm so ***** annoyed.
  • ian08, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1I love living in Bournenouth
  • ramiro, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5If the connection goes through the sewer, the screen shot should say "Brownloading..."
  • tooloney, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2so would these be the poop tubes?
  • MrViklund, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2I posted this to Digg 21 days ago. Almost a month. Well, not this post. But that there were plans to put fiber in the sewer ducts.
    http://digg.com/tech_news/Fibre_could_be_laid_thro ...
  • coresnake, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Teenage Mutant Ninja Broadband...traffic shaping in a half-shell :(
  • Rajaie, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1I wonder how many movies that is every day :-)
  • tmcdigg, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Google should buy the ISP out and then on April fools day... they can say.. No really, we to deliver broadband via sewer lines... it's not a joke!
  • C4Lcouk, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0In addition to this, C4L.co.uk will be running 100 Gbps of connectivity into Bournemouth prior to this service going live. We have plans to increase this to 800 Gbps when required (enough to run 400,000 homes on 100Mbps 50:1 ratio) which will significantly increase connectivity in Bournemouth and the local area. The core of this service will be at our Bournemouth data centre which will be launched later in the year. Here we are running the connectivity down to enable the most cost effective line solutions in time for the release of pricing. Circuits will be available back to London for any ISP’s wishing to use their own bandwidth/networks. We will also be offering 100Mbps, 1000Mbps and 10GigE 1:1 to premises for Business. More details will be provided soon.
    http://www.c4l.co.uk/
  • spudnic, on 05/25/2008, -0/+1If you download more than 5 gigs during peak time you got throttled to 4mb for 4 hours.
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