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- BigEazy, on 10/12/2007, -22/+308In other news...People would rather get stuff free than pay for it...more to come as details unfold
- OneManArmy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+187"The industry can respond to this stubborn core of _piracy_"
How about you provide downloadable movies at a decent quality, DRM-free, and at affordable prices. And while you are at it, stop producing ***** movies!! - ts8lemonade, on 10/12/2007, -3/+109Hmmm, I think this pic pretty much sums it up: http://www.tuxick.net/pics/piracy2.jpg
- abid786, on 10/12/2007, -2/+67How about the half hour worth of advertisments before the feature presentation
- Azimuth1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+64It's free, requires minimal effort, and you don't get stupid people throwing popcorn or little kids constantly making noise and ruining the movie. It's a no brainer.
- latova, on 10/12/2007, -5/+62I think they'd rather embrace piracy then embrace DRM.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+52Wave your hooks in the air like you wanna file-share!
People on the left side: YAAAAARRRR!
Now the people on the right: YAAAAARRRR! - digitalgopher, on 10/12/2007, -25/+69*sigh*... yet another internet smart ass. RTA. it's not claiming that people prefer to be pirates and get free stuff, but that, while there are a group of hardcore illegal downloaders that would not change their behavior anyway, the current pricing structure for downloadable alternatives seem to be out of sync with what a large number of other people are willing to pay. These are people willing to pay for stuff but feel that they are priced out of the market.
FTA - "Despite the convenience of the movie download services, consumers are unwilling to pay a premium for them. In fact, online movie addicts, on average, value downloads at $2.59, while they value a movie bought in a store at more than double that - $5.98." - KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43Read it again.
"79% of Americans who are downloading movies do so illegally despite access to subscription based services."
It's not 79% of all Americans, it's 79% of the group of Americans who are already downloading movies. - 7levels, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41Until the MPAA and RIAA stop treating everyone like children, and stop acting like monopolistic *****, then people will continue to steal media. No one would download a movie for $10 on iTunes and not be able to burn it to a DVD, when they could download as many as they want for free off Bitorrent. Selling DRM-free media online is the only way to combat pirates in any relevant way.
- cankillar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40If they paid the actors with food then movies wouldn't cost very much, thus lowering prices. Hell, if they paid actors less than $500,000, we could all save money. Actors don't need billions of dollars.
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38***** THE RIA...er...
***** THE MPAA - herrshuster, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21"costing the industry $598 million."
wow...that's how much most movies make...ONE MOVIE!! - thejokell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17@Cleanlyness
"it's just a bunch of cranky conservatives trying to piss me off."
Haha. Yeah, screw those Hollywood conservatives! - YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Not to mention the rise in prices.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16If the MPAA is going to treat me like a thief regardless, I'm just going to BE a thief. Right now I'm getting 1080p rips while maxing out 16mbit worth of downstream. I'm happy paying for content, but I want to be able to do what I want with it.. and pirating lets me do that. Oh, and SETTLE ON AN HD FORMAT.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16*****'em both!
- TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16'''''''''''
I don't care for downloading movies because
1. It takes forever
2. Quality sucks. Refer to item #1
3. I sit at the computer enough. I have a television with a couch if I want to watch a DVD
***** downloading movies, illegaly or not. The people who like watching movies on their 17" CRT while eating burritos can do whatever they feel like."""""""
You know, a lot of us have our computers hooked up to our entertainment systems.
Eric Wilson - andycr512, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19@fatdog789:
You've fallen for their trap.
If "piracy" were such a huge problem, they wouldn't have so much money to spend on anti-"piracy" advertisements that don't stop anyone but the most casual from doing it, would they?
"Piracy" isn't hurting them anywhere near as much as they claim. The thought that they will just have to pack up and make a living at Burger King if they can't stop this darned copyright infringement is ridiculous. - andycr512, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"Maybe if people stopped acting like children, they wouldn't need to treat them like children."
Yeah, maybe if they, being the MPAA, stopped acting like children and imposing restrictions that do nothing to hurt their alleged targets, we wouldn't have to treat them like children by downloading their media without their permission. - miniboss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Survey finds that 21% of people are liars.
- stalefries, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Oh yes! I do so love murder!
- MrFlesh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I think it's funny how videogame, music, and movie industries all think that cracking down on piracy = more sales. I quit downloading MSM music in 2000 now I listen to techno because a lot of it is free on the net. I bought next to no movies last year because nearly everything that came out sucked. And I bought next to no videogames because I'm tired of playing sequels remakes and titles geared torwards the lowest denomitor of gamer.
- whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+10In other news, 100% of digg users named "digitalgopher" can't comprehend an article well enough to summarize it.
- zblackeagle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11You beat free with superior quality.
Unfortunately, any superior quality gets raped by DRM. Or annoying messages or ads. - Sep11insidejob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I stopped renting and buying movies because they suck. I used to spend unreal amount of $$ for rentals and buying movies, but now-a-days all movies seem to suck and forget about watching them more than once...
Now they are almost not worth the blank DVD I burn them to.
IMO of course - jimrooney, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11hrm... free product is superior to paid product
just proves 79% of people are paying attention
ts8lemonade nailed it
http://www.tuxick.net/pics/piracy2.jpg - Itazura, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Oh im sorry, i forgot, you don't have to title your article accurately anymore.
- diggboi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8This is exactly why they shouldn't publish a narrow statistic like this--no one remembers what the actual stat is, just some half-assed version of it that suits their own agenda.
The article states that 79% of "those who download movies" would rather do it for free. Not "of Americans." Not "of Internet users." Not "of people who prefer watching movies in their home." ALL OF THOSE would have given us some meaningful statistic.
Of course 79% of movie downloaders would rather do it for free--almost ALL of those considered "movie downloaders" are using Bittirrent or UseNet to get digital movies, 'cause the commercial download services are DRm crazy, have horrendously limited selection, or just generally suck balls in some way that limits consumer choice.
I bet the percentage "of Americans" who'f prefer free downloads would be more like 20%, "of people who prefer watching movies at home" would be about 30%, and "of Internet Users" would be somewhere in between.
Unless these people can give us meaningful research and statistical results, they should shut the ***** up and stop kissing the RIAA's ass. - postaldave, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13that was stupid
but i still dugg you up because it forced me to grin. - justnick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9mmmmmm................burritos.
- delta013, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Others have said this already, but the titled is so skewed it deserves mentioning again.
Title: 79% of Americans would rather download movies illegally
FTA: 79% of Americans who are downloading movies do so illegally despite access to subscription based services.
A more realistic figure would be 79% of Americans don't know what the heck BitTorrent is and how much the industry is screwing them for. - dgendreau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Not to mention how inexpensive DLP projectors have gotten...
I still go to the IMax theater to catch really good movies though... 300 and LOTR come to mind. - Smills, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6In Australia almost everyone I know download illegal movies, videos etc. Over half have never legally downloaded a song, and about a quarter don't even know how to legally download songs. If you mention music downloads the response is "oh, you mean limewire?" or some other downloading service. What an age we live in, not that i am complaining.
- iamdw, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10@bdpf
Yes, this survey is nonsense:
"Findings are based on a survey of 506 online Americans, fielded between February 5th and 6th, 2007"
You've got to be kidding me.... - riccohasdug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Let's try a more accurate title next time, please.
FTA: "Yet 79% of those downloading movies are still doing so illegally, according to the study..."
There's even info at the bottom of this "article" that explains who did this survey. http://www.ccnmatthews.com/ is _not_ a news site. I'm going to have to break out the shovel for this one :(
- krabat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Take one look at the ridiculous Amazon Unbox service and anyone can understand why no one with any shred of decency would pay for something like it.
- OutThisLife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+579% of 506. So what?
- sldSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That's not the MPAA, that's the retailers that don't want their discs stolen.
Although they're annoying as hell, I have never had an sticky residue left over from those strips. - LeFrenzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4just for a test they should try $1 download on a movie on iTunes (average blockbuster movie) and see how many downloads they get.
I bet you they'd crash servers. People would buy movies like crazy. That's why so many of us are on iTunes. It's fast, easy and convinient. Sure it's raped with DRM, but if i ever want a song, most of the time i find it on there, and boom before i know it, it's on my iPod.
Right now prices are just too high. $10 for a movie download? Whaaa. People rather buy the damn DVD for $15 on new release. Make it between $2-$5 and it'd skyrocket. - belebih, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"79% of Americans who are downloading movies"
"506 online Americans"
"costing the industry $598 million"
"value downloads at $2.59"
"value a movie bought in a store at more than double that - $5.98"
"accurate to within +/- 4.6%, 19 times out of 20"
Numbers are to ass as rabbits are to hat. - gboodhoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@hodown:
surely you can't actually be claiming that only physical objects have monetary value? - bdpf, on 10/12/2007, -14/+18506 people surveyed....
Duh! How about a bigger sample, like 10% of those on-line.
Or does only .00001% download movies?
Sample at least 10,000 people or are you too cheap.
Bogus survey, TOO SMALL A SAMPLE.
DUG DOWN..... - actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"But now I may buy the dvd or CD or some other item from it, that I never would have if I hadnt been exposed by stealing it."
Please provide an honest percentage of how many movies you've bought after pirating them. - Wolfman~K, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3lame title, its 79% of americaqns downloading movies not all americans,
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I will never pay to download something wrapped in DRM.
A file with DRM has no value as at anytime you can loose access to your purchase.
Drm'ed files only play on a limited number of devices, you can't rip them to play on the device of your choice.
Unlike DVD's you can't sell off your no longer wanted drm'ed files.
If the OS or player that plays those files become outmoded you can't transfer those files.
With drm'ed files your buying crap you can't keep at prices you would pay for something thats tangible. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I prefer to own the actually movie. I have about 500 movies, but If they actually had quality downloadable dvd's I would own even more.
- wusupdoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5They can't just offer people lazy options like they're doing now. Right now, they're selling movies that are already out on DVD, with very mediocre quality and expensive prices. Bootleggers, on other hand, can get movies before they come out (sometimes months) on DVD, with very good quality and for free. They can't beat free, but trying to beat the pirates at 2 out of 3 will still pull in a bunch of people. They need to offer movies before their DVD release and for a better quality than the usual releases. Pack in extras and they've got my business.
- flair1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3redbox is like $1 a movie to rent. why bother with downloading?
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