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- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -3/+32How the hell do you regulate this? It's too much for any government to take on.
- dvsbastard, on 02/13/2008, -2/+25Don't copy that floppy!
- NathanMahdavi, on 02/13/2008, -2/+20lets hope so
- mrrm, on 02/13/2008, -3/+19I bought my first LP when I was 14. That was a long time ago. Then I grew up and I bought an old car, with cassette tapes, so I bought my preferred music in tapes. Then came the CD, and I bought it all over again in that format.
3 times is enough for copyright payments over the same work. And then all the music record companies have a clout over the artistic content which has already abhorrently crippled the artists for decades in a row.
I have had enough.
P-2-P file sharing is all about freedom.
Freedom to choose tracks instead of whole garbage bins.
Freedom to listen to what you really want, not to what is on offer in a chain brick store.
Freedom to pay royalties directly to the artists you think and feel they deserve (by attending their shows or by subscribing their websites).
Freedom to choose, to feel and to pay whenever your own ethical inner system, plus your wallet, think it's right.
Freedom not to live in fear.
Long live Torrent, I say! - dsmx, on 02/13/2008, -0/+10Never underestimate the stupidity and lack of common sense in any government.
- borez, on 02/13/2008, -4/+12The big BBC bollocks monster strikes again
- theright, on 02/13/2008, -0/+8FTA:
"This proposal was a draft consultation green paper, defined as “a proposal without any commitment to action.” The government receives many of these on a daily basis. They are like junk mail at Number 10 Downing Street. The Prime Minister’s toilet paper is more important than most green papers, and both are usually filed in the same place." - wellyuk, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Wow.. racist, homophobic and xenophobic all in one sentence! Kerching! Jackpot!
- PHiZ187, on 02/13/2008, -5/+12I don't think the headline is so outrageous. The UK is rapidly becoming a police state.
- saxreturns, on 02/13/2008, -1/+8Never before have I heard this paper referred to as The London Times... It's THE Times!
- heavyglow, on 02/13/2008, -4/+11This proves how stupid the government is
- Rheic, on 02/13/2008, -0/+6He does. This has nothing to do with him.
- W1LS0N, on 02/13/2008, -0/+6at least they dont make you have have your fingerprints taken and retina scans when you enter the country.
- Rocketgeek, on 02/13/2008, -3/+9Excellent to see it's only a green paper. Although I dare say the music industry will try and bribe a minister or several to try and get it enacted as primary law. Seems to be the way things get done in the UK nowadays.
Where's that copyright expert, the cliffski troll when you need him? Doling out his inveterate bile.
Past his bed time no doubt. - wellyuk, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6Not if you divert spending from transport, schools and hospitals.
- borez, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6It's hardly a neutral news platform, is it.
Have you ever visited the "Have your say" heavily moderated comments section? - heathengray, on 02/13/2008, -0/+5Oddly enough, it seems to be a police state to those honest folk who know what a police state is.
Chavs and Perps will beat a man to death and nearly walk away, but speed on the motorway and you're worse than Hitler. - inactive, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6lol yeah like ISP's don't want to make money anymore.
- jakem1, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4I think the idea is that ISPs are the ones who regulate it. As a result, the costs would be passed on to consumers.
- BassJunkie, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4As the article points out it would be nearly impossible to monitor all the traffic that ISP's deal with on a daily basis and they can't just block all torrent & emule data as these P2P networks can be used to distribute data legally and usually they put a lot lower strain on individual network resources by spreading the load. I really can't see this being feasible however that doesn't usually stop this government from trying to implement anything....
- avisotin, on 02/13/2008, -3/+7Welcome to Web 3.0, now with added restrictions!
- davotoula, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5You have a lot more to sweat about since the MAFIAA is breathing down your neck.
Here in Europe we use their "legal threats" as toilette paper or invite them to "sodomize themselves with a retractable baton".
(http://static.thepiratebay.org/apple_response.txt) - PaddyD, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5National crisis averted. We can all sleep easy.
- baldgye, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4the uk is a collection of gay black men?? ....wait im a gay black man? ...wait what?!
- wellyuk, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4Two sentences, idiot.
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Have you read the article on the BBC site - it simply quotes from the Times one.
- Rocketgeek, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4Well said. Someone who clearly understands the music industry :-)
- Rocketgeek, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3I suspect you'll find that I'm 20-30 years older than you, have a few more scientific degrees than you, and am more than capable of rational thought. Not everyone on digg is as young or as naiive as you. As for trolls. No, someone who does nothing but insult their audience and provides no rational argument in any of their posts, is a fairly good approximation of a troll, but then, I probably have somewhat more experience of the web and the internet than you in that regard, so can spot troll-like behaviour a mile off. Age does confer some advantages.
- thomtomw, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4i am happy to hear this.
- borez, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4So neutral it didn't even mention the Scientology raids in London? + I find the technology section about as cutting edge as ZX81
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4Complete *****.
Those silly artists, expecting to get paid for downloads when all along you were going to pay the directly!
GROW UP. - baldgye, on 02/13/2008, -5/+8arhh.. safe init blad
- ratsville, on 02/13/2008, -3/+6haha.. the music industry are so desperate it makes me chuckle. Over paid corporate dorks and sweaty coked up managers pushing vile rap and crappy polished r&b on your cute 12 year old sister, influencing her to take drugs, act like an arsehole, wear sexy clothes and put herself about. dont forget the mainstream music industry doesnt exist merely to sell trashy pop records to kids, it's more than that. it's about controlling peoples minds to shape society for their own evil ends, subliminally pedalling violence, selfishness, depression, drugs, personal aspirations, impossible ideals and second rate products. the revenue generated by actual music sales is only a drop in the ocean compared with all the other spin offs. The big picture is really quite sick and i dont think we 'civillians' will ever grasp the whole extent of what they are doing and why. anyway.. i love this f***ing amazing planet and most of the life on it. there's loads of artists out there making amazing and inspiring music who dont charge for it anyway and never will. music has been around for centuries and its only in the last 50 years or so that it has become an industry as you all know anyway :) righty. i have to end this rant now as its late and i have to work for a living :)
- armo, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3It's certainly a hell of a lot more neutral than the daily hate, sorry, mail.
- ratsville, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Uh.. mark-*****? i guess you call yourself this because you are a knob
- blackrave, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5You're safe, Sam!
- AvangionQ, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3"This proposal is totally and completely unworkable in the real world. ISPs will not accept liability for the contents of packets (nor should they), and it would be impossible for them to open and check if every single download and upload was legal or not without the entire Internet grinding to halt. This isn’t in the best interests of the government, the ISPs or the voters. Banning customers and exposing yourself to billions in liability isn’t a good business strategy. Criminalizing six million citizens and inconveniencing the rest is not a vote winner." ... flawless!
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4Except the ISPs have already said they can;t do this either.
- Qays, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5It's just a scheme to scare is.
- gudnbluts, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5It's actually one of the most neutral news sources in the world. Even the recent independent report that all the right-wing nuts were touting to prove the BBC was biased said that the news wasn't.
- leowatson, on 02/13/2008, -2/+4Yeah, he speaks English. You speak American.
- ratsville, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2:)
- theright, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4What's wrong with the BBC, Mr borez?
- Ribbed4U, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2Something like this is exactly why lawmakers need to be educated in a subject before they start passing laws about it. If any lawmaker thought this idea was plausible, they need to have their head re-examined. I'm tired of crotchety old men passing laws for the greater good when they don't know a clue about what they are doing.
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Too late
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Lol. The comment was a joke!
- NathanMahdavi, on 02/16/2008, -0/+1No.
- wellyuk, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Sweet! Good old rip of Britain!
- mutiger, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Yeah well, that's what they said about the 'anti-hacking tools' laws, and now in at least two countries in the EU, it's illegal to have portscanners and other stuff, too.
- ratsville, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1s**t.. i'm loosing my sense of humour :) maybe i need a holiday :)
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