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- ftorres, on 06/03/2008, -4/+519This is setting a dangerous precedent. I pay a $25.00 premium for Time Warner's 20 down plan. It is ridiculous that not only will they charge me to get information faster. They will also charge me once I hit their set limit. Give me a break!
"Here! Pay for more speed so you can reach out limit quicker!" - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -8/+364Like the leading story here on digg yesterday... many entities are interested in controlling the public use of the Internet. It goes beyond cable providers and includes the RIAA and MPAA and others. PEOPLE!!! DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN! They are trying to take the Internet as we know it away from us and turn it into something like a cellular phone service. You can get this many minutes and then you can pay some hefty overage fees. We'll give you 200 text messages a month for only $5! Imagine these horrible pricing models applied to email messages and IM. The average high speed connection rate in the USA is quite low when compared to many other countries around the world... countries that pay very little in comparison to our $40 - 60 monthly cable and satellite bills. DO NOT LET THEM DO THIS! ABANDON ANY CABLE PROVIDER OR SATELLITE PROVIDER WHO BEGINS ROLLING THESE PROGRAMS OUT! (I'm sorry for all the caps... I'm just three sheets to the wind!)
- ruest, on 06/03/2008, -3/+275***** Time Warner!
- ssj2119, on 06/03/2008, -11/+265Cue the new 'open source' movement for ISP's please.
- pr0t0, on 06/03/2008, -3/+219I'm replying to this just in case some TW exec is reading digg to get a pulse on this. I just upgraded to RoadRunner Turbo with 15Mbps download. I bought that level of service for the speed because I do use a lot of high-bandwidth content (Netflix Instant, Hulu, ABC.com, YouTube, gaming, streaming music, etc.). I'm already paying a premium for service versus someone who only checks their email and never leaves msn.com.
I promise you, if you bring this to my area, I will sever all ties to TW which includes digital cable and premium channels as well as the RR Turbo. And I will never come back.
I know how to hold a grudge...ask Sony about their rootkit. It was the last straw for me. I don't care what business unit did it. I don't buy their games, music, electronic devices. I won't even see a movie if Sony Pictures puts it out. - TheUngod, on 06/03/2008, -2/+173This is utterly ridiculous. If this were to happen to me I'd be outraged. I work from home pretty often, and in some cases I have to download CD's worth of information and am constantly remoted into my work machine. I eat up well over 40GB a month just for work, not to mention downloading videos or playing games (legally or not) in my spare time. I pay for internet service at a certain speed, I DON'T pay for X amount of data. If this catches on and DVD distrubution (or blu ray) over the internet does as well, we won't be paying 20 bucks for a movie, we'll be paying 20 bucks plus the 4 dollars it takes to download. Try making your service better instead of finding ways to deter us from downloading.
- EntropyFan, on 06/03/2008, -1/+128Let us hope this doesn't catch on with everyone else.
Otherwise it is goodbye AppleTV, NetFlix streaming, and any hope of freedom from Cable/Sat. TV - NeedzABetterSN, on 06/03/2008, -1/+121Pirate Bay the ISP?
Where do I sign up? - KevInTx, on 06/03/2008, -3/+117So glad that I'm no longer a Time Warner customer... this is making ComCast (which I'm stuck with right now) seem like a "good deal". For now, I'm praying that FIOS comes to my local SOON! :)
- invert01, on 06/03/2008, -0/+103I'm on a 20MB line for £27 a month, unlimited download cable contract in the UK, and frankly, this scares me. How, when companies are toting increasing speeds to allow for Video On Demand services (full HD videos streamed to your box), can this be a good thing? Say a DVD quality movie at 4GB, that's 10 movies a month before you even happen to glance at your email, Skype your Mom, play XBox live, download a new album from iTunes. You get the picture here.
With Mobile Internet finally becoming a standard part of UK cell phone bills, I could not ever go back to paying by the MB. ISP's are afraid they are rapidly becoming 'dumb pipes' from transporting content and obviously want a little more of the pie (revenues). We should not be encouraging companies like this to take us back to the dark ages.
In my opinion, I believe a nationwide lack of subscribers to Time Warner might change their minds with this new subscription model. You can't sell a product no one is buying. Please, if you know someone who buys their line from Time Warner, get them off that service by any means possible, I beg you. - MattNF, on 06/04/2008, -4/+89We need more people like you.
- mrsteveman1, on 06/04/2008, -0/+84we have the technology, we can clone him
- blindguy, on 06/03/2008, -3/+82Welcome to the "New Improved" internet.
All Cable companies will follow. They will see that Time Warner only lost 1% of subscribers due to the cap. The average consumer does not have a cable choice, they simply get the cable provider in their area.
If we had the ability to chose between Time Warner, COX, AT&T or any other cable company, then things would be different but that would create competition and the cable companies don't want that. - Gantos, on 06/03/2008, -3/+78Does anyone remember what web sites looked like 10 years ago? How about 5 years ago? Now look at web sites today -- and the vast difference in the variety of content...and ads. And everything you see (and some of what you don't see) is bytes.
Now imagine what kind of back-door deals are being worked out between Time Warner and the advertisers/content providers to artificially inflate the number of bytes downloaded. Think it won't happen? - jedisushi, on 06/03/2008, -3/+76EVERYBODY PANIC. No, really. EVERYBODY PANIC. This is very bad.
- enTor, on 06/03/2008, -0/+61Everyone please contact Time Warner and your cable subscriber, and threaten to cancel your service if this continues, and say you will urge everyone you knwo to do the same, including your employer. EVERYONE!!! If you dont want this to happen.
- tyvias, on 06/03/2008, -0/+58What a scam, over a dollar per gigabyte with a very low cap + lousy cable company customer service. Where does the madness end. For those in Beaumont, run away from Time Warner and get an alternate service. We need to demonstrate our disgust with our wallets. Comcast's rumored 250GB cap is far more reasonable but still a cap. Where is FIOS?
- yanked, on 06/03/2008, -1/+56Listen, Time Warner doesn't care if it loses our (that is, those who might use more than 40GB) business. We're costing them money, so if they can figure out a way of selectively kicking us off their network, they're happy, even if we storm off in a rage.
The only way to affect them is by affecting their profits, and the only way to do that is not by threatening to leave (they'd be happy with that) but by damaging their brand, so that the high-profit users also leave. We have to start a movement now to punish Time Warner's brand, and cost them those high-profit customers.
I'm not sure how to do that yet, but I don't think a little exaggeration would hurt: tell everyone that youtube, browsing web pages with lots of animation, online music, etc, will end up costing them a fortune on Time Warner, and that Time Warner is lying (or small-printing) about how much it will cost you. Maybe analogize to cell-phones, with all their hidden charges. "Time Warner's new hidden charges" is a good, damaging phrase.
Other ideas? Let's start brainstorming. - vikblazin, on 06/03/2008, -6/+60are they ***** cereal?
- RTAdams89, on 06/03/2008, -1/+52Wait, $55 for 40GB and then $1 per GB after the limit. That means the "fee" for going over the cap is less per GB than you pay when staying under the cap...
Also i like how it says "Customers will be able to see how much bandwidth they have left by visiting the Time Warner Cable web site."
I wonder just how big they will make that page? - iidestined, on 06/03/2008, -0/+44I hope that enough people cancel their service with TWC so they can see this is a stupid plan.
- thesonofdarwin, on 06/04/2008, -1/+44Hell I can buy a Poe, 10 Deku Nuts, or an assortment of potions for 30 rupees. You are getting ripped off.
- masterm1nd, on 06/03/2008, -0/+41Time Warner, is that the same people who made 10,000 AOL cds per each person on the planet?
Everyone here must protest with your wallets! - dOOBiEx213, on 06/04/2008, -4/+44"I won't even see a movie if Sony Pictures puts it out." Two words: Pirate Bay bitch. You enjoy movie, they don't get profits ^^
- bbqsalad, on 06/03/2008, -0/+39Interesting how we are now paying more than ever. Yet things seem to be moving backwards. Greedy pigs.
- ChiffX, on 06/03/2008, -0/+38Here in Canada I've had a 60gb bandwidth cap for years now with Cogeco. ***** sucks hard, at like $50 a month.
They don't even charge you for extra bandwidth, they shut you down. There isn't even an unlimited bandwidth option available for more money. - Llanowar, on 06/03/2008, -1/+39I'd probably be paying $500 a month for a subscription of that model...
- ANT1138, on 06/03/2008, -0/+31That's not even enough for one week. I'm so glad I don't have time warner anymore.
- inactive, on 06/03/2008, -1/+32This same scheme was "tried" in Argentina the past year by Telecom, they told this was an "free upgrade" from 1.2Mbps to 2.5Mbps but with a monthly limit of 4GB!!... and fail.
The vast majority of the average users didn't notice the trap of this "free upgrade", when the bill for GB exceed arrives people start to complain to the company and they has to offer the "old 1.2Mbps" without limits.
Despite the fact what "cybercafes" owners was warning about this months after, even join together and start legal actions against telco. - geneticlone, on 06/03/2008, -3/+32Why the ***** would anyone use time warner as their internet provider?
- Cubedude04, on 06/03/2008, -0/+29Try coming to Australia. I pay $100 a month for 25GB and get slowed when i go over it.
- Bleezy, on 06/03/2008, -0/+28THIS IS TERRIBLE!!! DONT LET THIS HAPPEN!!!
- FatLoser, on 06/04/2008, -2/+30Thing yourself ***** lucky, friend.
Here in South Dakota I have to plug my baud modem into a ***** wire pulsing thing that is then plugged into a ***** Indian at the local reservation who was taught how to translate my mini electrical shocks into smoke signals, which are then relayed to a drunken Indian a couple miles away, which he then taps into a ***** telegraph machine which transmits my messages to Time Warner where I am then capped at 3 kb/month.
I won't speak bad of the Indians, because they know everything I do on the Internet, but I'll be damned if I've ever seen an md5 match up properly after these jokers have done my downloading. - elnerdo, on 06/03/2008, -0/+27The big problem with this is that the people of Beaumont, Texas at large aren't going to notice the change, and thus, they won't complain, and this will become a nationwide problem. My hypothesis is that if the people of Beaumont, Texas notice the change, then they will complain en masse, and Time Warner will be forced to roll back the policy.
If this hypothesis is true, then a good idea would be to try to get internet users in Beaumont to go over their bandwidth limits in large numbers.
So, the question then is: How can we (the internet at large) get the people of Beaumont to use a LOT of bandwidth over the next months? - inactive, on 06/03/2008, -0/+27GOOGLEISP
- Wakuko, on 06/04/2008, -1/+28"Consumers who exceed the bandwidth caps will pay $1 for every additional gigabyte consumed."
Are they gonna refund $1 for every GB not used?
Just asking... - iDe1337, on 06/03/2008, -8/+35How would an ISP go open source? They don't hide anything from you unless you have one that filters traffic. The software ISPs use may or may not be open source but that doesn't affect the end-user of the internet at all.
People seem to digg-up every comment with the words "open source". - HMTKSteve, on 06/03/2008, -0/+27Can you get a refund if you don't use all of your available bandwidth? Can you "gift" it to a friend?
- Jforsyth89, on 06/03/2008, -1/+28I would most certainly go over that limit. This scares me.
- billyvnilly, on 06/03/2008, -2/+27Adblock will be helping my browsing and my wallet now...
- WalesAlex, on 06/03/2008, -0/+25You get throttled DOWN to 110mbps? Holy ***** I need a new connection.
- Supadude, on 06/04/2008, -0/+24Of course not. This would mean the cable companies would LOSE money. God forbid.
- BenBenMan, on 06/03/2008, -2/+26iDe1337, dugg cause you mentioned open source.
- elnerdo, on 06/03/2008, -0/+24"In my opinion, I believe a nationwide lack of subscribers to Time Warner might change their minds with this new subscription model. You can't sell a product no one is buying. Please, if you know someone who buys their line from Time Warner, get them off that service by any means possible, I beg you."
Impossible. In many areas, they have a monopoly. - kinseyincanada, on 06/03/2008, -1/+24Also to Canadians it is happening here as well Rogers (Im not sure about other providers) is impossing caps as well as of June. You will have to pay extra if you go over the cap.
- Ryan0617, on 06/03/2008, -3/+25Does anyone know where they can find the software mentioned in the article to monitor your own GB download?
- Sushubh, on 06/04/2008, -1/+23here in india i pay 1700 rupees for unlimited 512kbps. they charge around 2500 rupees for 1mbps. both are true unlimited. have not heard any complaints.
1700 rupees = USD 40
2500 rupees = USD 59 - Fallout911, on 06/03/2008, -2/+23Wow this is pure *****.
Whoever decided that this was a good idea needs to be tortured for at least 10 years. - gametavern, on 06/03/2008, -0/+21Cap'n Crunch is taking it in the pooper!
- jimmyisprollyth, on 06/03/2008, -1/+22NO
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