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- Tanbo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+87Jupiter Research is out of their minds, cause its a hell of a lot more than 33%
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+73If there were more "legal" options, then maybe the numbers wouldn't be so high.
To apply DRM on digital music, which isn't on ripped CDs - causes people to dislike the current "legal" option. Especially me. Give me an ALLOFMP3.com for the same price (99c songs) and an option of quality formats, w/o the DRM, and I'll pursue "legal" options, until then, I'll pursue "illegal" options. This "legal" and "illegal" is civil, not criminal, since this is "copyright infringement" not theft. It wouldn't even be this, if the RIAA,MPAA, etc. haven't had their $ in the pockets of legislators to "mold" the laws into their own favors. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4767% of statistics are made up ;)
- AssProphet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38Yeah, same deal with TV shows...
I mean for crying out loud ITMS releases LOST in 4:3 format! Why in hell would I pay for that when I can get full res widescreen rips that I can play in any media player on any computer.
The only thing I've bought off of iTunes is the iTunes Originals. Once there's a good DRM stripper for the mac I'll probably buy more music, but definatly not TV shows or Movies. - duke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39@ lakawak
"It doesn't matter how many times you prove yourself to be not a lawyer, but it is THEFT. Period. You repeating it over and over again will not change that. Obtaining something that you didn't pay for is THEFT."
What a load of crap. I'm receiving air that I didn't pay for - it's not stealing. Look up the definition of theft in your state - and I'll bet you a double-glazed jelly doughnut that it is defined as depriving the lawful owner of the use of the object without consent. Copying an electronic file does not deprive anyone of the use of their copy - QED, it is not theft. It may be another crime, but it is not theft. If you do not know the law, then STFU about what is and is not theft. - method77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24so the study shows that 66% of iPod users are stupid enough to pay for worthless songs
- Floodle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Agreed - that is very poor research, I'd be amazed if it wasn't at least twice that.
- BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24I agree, they are bat-*****-crazy of they think it's only at 33%.
- Bob042, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23The solution to this is obviously more restrictive DRM!
/Sarcasm. - ajskhan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23i heard about 85% of the public (ipod owners dont matter, just normal public) steal music off of the internet, and most people will not stop stealing until the song price is at or below around 5cents/song!
- joshman5k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23@lakawak
It makes one not a theif, but a pirate. There is a difference. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22"most people will not stop stealing until the song price is at or below around 5cents/song!"
I'd still want my nickelback. - hotpepper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21What about iPod users who download music in countries where downloading music is legal? Are they still considering that stealing?
- chickenselects, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26In other news, Pluto is not a planet.
- duke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19100% of RIAA lawsuits are "stealing" money from people!!
There. If THEYcan define "stealing" however they want, so can I. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17As an iPod owner I can vouch for part of this.
- Yez70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17When a shoplifter gets charged with lifting MUSIC rather than lifting a CD - then I'll call it theft.
- kbarrett, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18This service is so cheap I almost feel like I'm stealing music.
http://allofmp3.com/ - SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16This is no surprise. Teens aren't going to pay money for music, I never did when I was younger. I do pay now except when I can't find a song, then it's Limewire time.
- gene0915, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Shoplift a CD from a store and face a small fine (couple hundie) and probably probation. Illegally download a song from the internet and ***** me.... $250,000 fine plus 5-10 years in prison with murders. Glad to know we have a fair justice system.
Does the R.I. Ass. of America plan on returning all the money they collect on blank media sales to those who don't "pirate"?
Go allofmp3.com!!!!!!! - godwept, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15The headline should read "66% of IPod owners actually pay for music". Now that's news!
- sven007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11i steal music. i dont have a credit card and cds are too expensive for one song
- wagthesam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10That is a very very low percentage, I would have thought it to be closer to 80%.
- zatrix, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20"33% of iPod owners are 'stealing' music on the net"
in other news 100% of the music, movies, clothing, etc industries/corporations/business are stealing our money by over charging for their products, so what's your point? Maybe if my yearly salary was above 7 figures I wouldn't mind spending 15 bucks on a CD. But frankly with tuitions prices going up each year I don't see how it's fair. - thunderer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@ AssProphet
I wonder how it would hold up in court if you bought the iTunes version, then downloaded a high-res widescreen one via BT or whatever. (This is all theoretically assuming you don't upload any data to other peers so you wouldn't be charged for distributing to illegal downloaders...) If you buy the license for watching the show, shouldn't that apply to all versions of it? - robystar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I think it's a plausible statistic. Out of 85% of the people who borrow music from the interweb indefinitely and from other sources...33% can afford to own iPods.=D
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9So what do the other 1% do?
- BooostedAWD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Oh no! iPod users illegally downloading music from the Internet!? Say it ain't so!
What in the hell is this world coming to!?!
/Sarcasm :) - jpyun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Give me 320kbps or lossless in any format I want with no DRM and I'll buy songs legally. Until then the record companies can get a big middle finger from me when I can get better quality and unrestricted files for free.
- Fhwqhgads, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"Why not buy the CD?"
Because CDs are a ripoff and you don't know what you're getting. Want just one song? Too bad. You have to pay a ripoff price for a CD that has that one hit song you want, plus a bunch of garbage songs.
No thank you. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Just goes to show what has been said for a while, DRM only punishes legit users and if punished enough, they stop coming back and will get the content another way. Abitrary limits on how many and what computers/devices one can use purchased music on do nothing to make the service more attractive to consumers. Apple makes their money on the sale of iPods and it doesn't much matter to them, at least in terms of profitability, where consumers fill them. The only people that are going to loose on this deal are the labels and studios that insist on DRM. If they want to limit piracy they have make paying for content attractive (a full 180 from what they're currently doing), something DRM will never do.
- Fhwqhgads, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7The point is we shouldn't have to. Simple as that!
- Fhwqhgads, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Stealing from the artists too. How much of this absolutely absurd amount of money they sue for actually goes to the artists? Somewhere between $0.01 and -$0.01.
ie. DICK! - EvolvedAnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6In other news, a study found that 78% of all statistics are made up.
- connizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I think that percentage is wrong, I'm pretty sure there are way more ipod users "stealing" music than just 33%.
- StanleyKoolPrik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7That means 67% of iPod owners arent stealing music. Before iTunes and the iPod, 100% of downloaded music was stolen.
- WOP1337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6HA! its a lot more then 33%. Free music is a good thing.
- johnnyrocket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Okay 99 cents for a song I can't copy, can't move anywhere, CPU locked, and, again ONE song for 99 cents. Ripoff, I see little value in that.
How about a legal version of allofmp3.com? A few cents for a download of a plain mp3 file that I can copy ANYWHERE. That would be worth it. - ka0tic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7lol who doesnt download illegally
- Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -1/+633%? Is that all?
- CatalystGhost, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@tim04
Yes. The other ones are too stupid to know how to work a p2p client. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If you buy an 80GB ipod that is advertised to hold 20,000 songs, it would take $20,000 to fill it on the iTMS. It is silly to think that people are going to spend that to fill the ipod they just bought, or even spend the enormous amount of time needed to rip and encode 1,000+ CD's. The only viable solution to actually use all that space is by downloading songs en masse off p2p networks and swapping with friends; no reasonable 'legal' alternative is provided to meet that end.
- nogoodreason, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I never buy music I *really* like from allofmp3.com, as I do suspect something dodgy's going on. You might well be 'pirating' that music. (However you are paying, and are NOT sharing it with others like a p2p programme - this is the reason the BPI announced that they were "mercifully not targetting allofmp3's users" in their lawsuit)
If there were some assurance that money did go to the artist, I'd use it for everything. - totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wow, loved the indepth research he uses to prove his point.
- nogoodreason, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"Why not buy the CD?"
Because the money that reaches the artists can be less than 10% of what you paid. The rest goes towards funding people to crawl inside your computer and sue kids, grandmothers and dead people.
There are exceptions, of course. I'd advise using RIAA Radar to find the few independant labels that actually *pay the artist* with your money - http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/ - scogoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good for us, I don't think I have or ever will buy online. Besides I don't think ในใใใ will mind if a kid from across the pacific downloads their 25 year old music.
- Fhwqhgads, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Does Apple really think everyone fills their iPod with legal music. How many songs do those things carry? A few thousand? Are people paying thousands of dollars for their music? No way in hell!
- giveer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well, it used to be 100% of everybody was stealing music: Maybe they should be happy about that.
- shark72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"That is a very very low percentage, I would have thought it to be closer to 80%."
Probably because you and all of your friends pirate, you're assuming that everybody pirates. I was like that when I was a teenager, too.
If you were to graph piracy rates among age and income, I agree that among 13- to 18-year-olds, it probably approaches 80%.
If you don't understand why older people don't pirate as much music, don't worry. Just wait... you'll understand eventually. - 1807, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm pretty upset by this article. First of all, the article has no author, a very common trait in bogus articles and dis-credible sources. Second of all, it's not published by a credible news source. I don't know about the rest of you but I wouldn't trust "the daily mail" with the weather. Third, there's no way to back up the research. This article is basing it's information from an "un-biased" survey made by a company called JupiterResearch. If you go to JupeterReaserch's website and try to access the survey by Mr. Mark Mulligan you'll find the information in this article is based on a survey called "Portable Media Player Owners:Understanding iPod Owners' Music-Buying Habits". To look at the survey itself, you'll have $1,500 (USD). Plus, here's the big thing, they study wasn't based on American iTunes buying habits, it was based on European buying habits.
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