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- squeevey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25They better figure it out quick before AT&T finds out. They might start getting charged for net usage.
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14...And half of internet trafic is lost through Photobucket.
90% of the time you don't even see the image, just the placeholder where the image should be. - nuclearpenguins, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Fascinating, tell me more please.
- tidu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Photobucket: 2%
MySpace: 57%
Porn 40%
Everything Else: 1% - olegk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6wow, they must have some serious hardware and well written server software. 80 uploads per second is ALOT. Number of downloads is probably 10X of that. The good thing is, it's not computationally intensive, it's all basically about bandwidth and scalability. AT&T must be really mad at them :)
- ubergmr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9i am finding thsi hard to believe, 2% is insanely high.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I started using Photobucket back in their early days. I used them to host very small images on one of the websites I owned. They were fantastic (and at this point in time, their was no pay service and they offered much more bandwidth/space, no ads, etc. for free).
THEN, they had a total system meltdown. Everything I had uploaded was lost (including thousands of other users'). They apologized profusely but I haven't gone back to them since. I'm not saying it's a bad service at all, just giving some of my early experience with them.. Since then, they have added tons of fairly useless features and it has gotten pretty cluttered.
One of the main reasons they have become exponentially popular these days is due to Myspace. A huge majority of Myspace users use photobucket to host their images on their profiles. It has spread in usage like crazy due to kids not knowing any other options.
I'm not sure if any of this was mentioned in the article. TechCrunch won't load for me, Digg Effect? - burke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah, but maybe we disbelieve that one too.
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7maybe .02% ? 2% is absolutely HUGE. We're talking several petabytes a day.
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4man i don't think the new design is so bad, but the new logo is gayer than anything
- kozie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So you're saying the editors and contributors @ TechCrunch are ignorant? Think that pretty much makes you the ignorant one...
- pucosk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2And that is only HTTP traffic. If you factor p2p, ftp in you get something like this:
Photobucket: 0.05%
Myspace: 10%
Porn: 60%
Pirated stuff (movies, music, software, excluding porn): 20%
Other: 6.95% - Terc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My point was that 2% of the U.S. bandwidth would account for several petabytes per day. Even at a meg per photo at 80 photos per second wouldn't touch 2% of bandwidth used per day in the U.S. Upload/Download doesn't matter either. We're talking about the amount of information transferred over the lines. So let's use 80 * 1 MB * 60 * 60 * 24 = 6.59179688 terabytes a day (thanks breakfastpants) now, lets assume that for every image upload there are 100 downloads... still only ~606.6 terabytes a day. Well, not "only" that's still a LOT but, well, you get the point.
- Buddhist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42%...No way. Photobucket just kind of seems unrealistic. Especially with ImageShack, PutFile, etc.
Then again, there are about 300 trillion MySpace pages, and many of them do tend to put 9,000 images on every possible spot. - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i agree, perhaps this is WWW traffic, since the web isn;t as intense on bandwidth as most other applications like BT, and p2p, or other file and streaming protocols
just a thought - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4They really are that big. Did you read where it said "80 uploaded pics per SECOND"?
- electrichead, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hey, whose picture is that in black and white?
Regarding the article, 2% seems a bit much. But the only reason so many people use it is because it's pretty damn close to idiot-proof. It resizes your images, provides links, even highlights the links on focus of the text boxes. A lot of non- techies can use it.
P.S. @BugMeNot2: You seem to really like that O RLY owl.
Edit: Well, whatever the number was before the Digg article, it's going to jump up now. That article might become correct after all. - 12340987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, could someone please explain to me how some of these website, seemingly with no ads [like many blogs], can turn a profit?
- mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1breakfastpants: "ok assman, assume the average uploaded photo is 1MB, which it really isn't close to. 80 * 1 MB * 60 * 60 * 24 = 6.59179688 terabytes a day. Not quite "several petabytes per day.""
no, but that's only the upload bandwidth, which, unless all photobucket users only view each photo once, is far less than the download bandwidth.
still, how does one measure all the traffic on the internet? - TheGalacticFork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm a little more impressed by the 35,000 videos/day being uploaded to YouTube....I would ask what the hell's being uploaded, but it's most likely people being stupid...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've only ever seen that when the image has actually been deleted by the uploader to save space.
Now with their increased storage limits for free users this won't happen as much.
I had no joy using imageshack. Photobucket just works with minimal interaction form me. Sure, its dumbed down and simple, but thats EXACTLY what 99% of web users want. - DaveTehWave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Interesting...
I like flikr better for my needs (recently upgraded to pro).
Has PB updated their feature set as well as allowing vids? - breakfastpants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ok assman, assume the average uploaded photo is 1MB, which it really isn't close to. 80 * 1 MB * 60 * 60 * 24 = 6.59179688 terabytes a day. Not quite "several petabytes per day."
- Sukino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great, Sherlock. Now add 30,000 uploaded videos and hundreds of thousands seen videos.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As has been said before, its about trafic, not how many Tb is transferred.
Literally EVERY forum out there has users photobucketing images, I even use PB for my forum and website graphics so I'm not dipping into the measly 10Mb my ISP gives me.
So, every time someone goes to a forum, they're getting served up images from PB. They might not be big files, but they certainly account for one hell of a lot of individual transfers. - BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Most likely through subscriptions.
Some people actually buy multiple subscriptions since Photobucket has a 25,000 picture (I think) or a 5GB album size limit. - steve693, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pretty amazing. I've been a member for 3 years now and they provide a great service.
I just want to know how they make money. Through subscriptions? - ultimate_ed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, I guess I'm just old as this is the first time I've ever heard of photo bucket. But I'm also not a myspace user. I have been using flickr recently for my online photo sharing after reading about it on digg and other tech sites. I don't recall seeing stories about photobucket before this.
- bonoes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2imageshack.us
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0" you have exceeded the maximum bandwith allowed"
- ahonneck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Not quite
Photobucket:
Max upload 1Meg (2M premium)
Max diskspace 1G (5G premium)
Max bandwidth 10G (no limit premium) - frangalvez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2You know Myspace users have a huge photobicket following. This could be why
- ahonneck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I know that it's not as cool, but don't count out the ad revenue. Especially for sites that can segment their users.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I use Photobucket and have paid for it two years in a row now. I'm up for renewal in October. I may not, since there's flickr now. I'll have to check it out and consider it.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The claims about bittorrent have been about it's share of data transfer on the internet.
This 2% is about traffic, not about data transfer. - ahonneck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They will also remove images when they violate their terms of service, and they replace the image with another that says "this image has violated the terms of service" or something like that.
- flain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0check http://www.imagemirror.com as an alternative based in australia
- stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yes
- cyborgver666, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1oh wait, nm, it just happened. Actually that's not really "holy *****" worthy. 1GB Storage, 10GB BW and 3 Minute cap. I'll just stick w/ YT.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3how are they cash flow positive? I don't know enough about them to understand their business model, anyone know?
- Splitt3rxx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I love photobucket, and they just upped free bandwidth to 10gb I think.I have used p since 04'
- mrbean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If you think about it, 2% isn't that much compared to the claims made about the percentage of BitTorrent traffic. Especially when the entire site just loads images.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Photobucket
Max file size of 500KB
but... no upload limit I know of
Flickr
Upload limit of 5mb (I think)
20mb upload limit if you dont have a paying account - kozie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3It would be 2% of the US traffic. Realize that not only the US uses photobucket.
- thebanmagi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Does anyone know what kind of number 2% would be? ie total traffic * .02 ?
- sagevann, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0< Disclosure: A friend is one of their main developers > I believe there is a pay version of PB, as well as the ad revenue they make. They are innovative in that they aren't targeting end user photo viewing but serving of photos. Basically they traffic in bandwidth, the same way that many ad serving companies do. You don't host the content on your page, but use redirects to is, so you don't pay for the BW.
- dognose, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1yeah, it's totally myspace. photobucket is just picking up the slack where myspace missed.. image hosting.
- cyborgver666, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1holy *****, when the hell did PB start doing videos?!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Source?
- 9gel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Simple... they sell a premium product for those who need more space and bandwidth
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