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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+98I'm Ron Burgundy?
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -2/+57Why is there a question mark in the title?
- TheRingmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+51did steven401 just fubar the comment chain?
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -0/+43Reply function is your friend?
- bofhcabbit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40Are we playing the question game?
- Akaji, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Yes he did?
- antifreeze11, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35do i digg down Userfaulty for not finishing his statement with a question mark, despite offering a comment i would have dugg up?
- raynar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Wait. A "professor" at an online editable-by-anyone website is a fake?
No way. - Userfaulty, on 10/12/2007, -14/+38@ Akaji
Hes copying fox news with the question mark. Adds mystery and intrigue hehe. - crimsongator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19And he has damaged the project more than anyone else, except perhaps Jimbo.
Wikipedia is supposed to be a repository of truth. Essjay was a powerful figure in Wikipedia who was a habitual liar and deceiver.
When caught in his web of lies, the head of Wikia said he has "no problem" with what is going on.
These issues are irrelevent:
1)How much Essjay contributed to Wikipedia.
2)Whether credentials are relevant on Wikipedia.
These issues are relevanet;
1)What Essjay did was wrong by any standard of human social decency.
2)What Essjay did damaged Wikipedia's reputation.
3)What Jimbo did damaged Wikipedia's reputation. - Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17> "Hes copying fox news with the question mark. Adds mystery and intrigue hehe."
Ahh, yes: "You can say anything as long as it's in the form of a question."
Is FOX News responsible for global warming? - bmwboy2844, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18In Soviet Russia, does question mark you?
- crimsoncircle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I agree but unfortunately if you lie, you're considered a liar, and it puts in doubt everything you've ever done.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@ImTheDarkcyde
It's not supposed to be the source. You are supposed to follow the references. - Bklynadam, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12There is a question mark because its not clear if he's really leaving Wikipedia or will just change his alias! (Inferred from the article)
- fober, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Someone faking their identity on the internet?
What has this world come to?
I am appauled? - Bahimiron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10A better description would be 'after a weekend of pressure, Wikipedia's Il Duce Jimmy Wales does a 180 and stops supporting the lying editor'.
- ray901, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I fail to see the correlation between a free information site being ridiculed for hiring someone with a fake CV and a global internet economy crash.
"let's not do it again, OK?"
I can absolutely guarantee that there will be people who work in the internet field who will lie on their CVs, just as in every other field. - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Speaking as a professor of Ethics at Oxford University with doctorates in philosophy, philology and philately, I'm appalled at this egregious deception.
- N080dy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Why hello Paul.
- interiot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It depends... Wikipedia's reliability comes not from how many of an article's editors claim to have PhD's (since anyone can do that, regardless of their social standing within Wikipedia), but from whether trustworthy sources are cited at the bottom of each article. In trying to influence the content of an article using his made up credentials, Essjay really violated the community's trust. But at the end of the day, reliable sources published elsewhere ALWAYS trump self-identified "experts".
- interiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Raian: The New Yorker and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists are supposedly reliable sources...
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Good! Web 2.0 has a hard enough time securing validation as it is, we don't need lying asshats to further propagate ***** on the 'net. That sort of behavior simply sets us up for another bubble bursting, I had enough fun that first time the economy crashed thanks to the Internet, let's not do it again, OK?
- ShouldBeStudyin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Nature.com would disagree with you, as would I.
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/full/438900a.html - PleaseBeSerious, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10ORLY?
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Once you sacrifice your reputation, you can't be respected.
- surfing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I suffer from upspeak?
- BigBaRay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Sweet. History is written by the liars.?
- consonance, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You know, I'm sort of getting the impression that The Register has a slight disagreement with Wikipedia... Oh, wait. That's because The Register for some unknown reason hates Wikipedia like Satan hates newly-born puppies.
This is the Internet. As much as Essjay was a problem, it's not like no one can replace him. This is by no means the end of Wikipedia, as The Register would like you to believe. Normal users, like me, certainly aren't going to be dissuaded from utilizing an overall superb repository. - HideoKojima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He'll comeback under a different name.
- sputnike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I concur?
- schwit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What's a 'Wikipedia Professor'? Is there a title at Wikipedia called Professor?
Would it be more accurate as "... Fake Professor at Wikipedia ..." - Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My god, this has turned into a game from Who's Line, don't you think?
- masgrada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What?! He didn't have tenure yet? Too bad.
- Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5It's that annoying Australian way of talking?
:D - Quadcore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4now he can join the workforce
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4No crap, but it's not what goes on peoples' resumes, it's the improper faith people place in vaporware and unfulfilled promises. I've been writing software for websites and data-driven apps since 98, I saw the crap that peoples' heads got filled with when the economy busted over the dot com crash. This is the same kind of crap: people putting forth falsehoods. An economy can't exist when its foundation-less. Companies full of liars who make enticing promises they can't keep are the sort of companies that lead to bubbles and crashes. Someone who lies about their background and plays a somewhat pivotal role at a Web 2.0 company is just this type of person for the the sort of scenario I'm describing.
- BJ_Blaskowitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Never again will [I] have to listen to [diggers] talk like this. You know, where everything has a question mark at the end of it. With an upward inflection. At the end of every sentence."?
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3And where is this valid source of factual information you speak of?
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wikipedia is a perfectly valid source of information so long as there are proper citations and you look into the recent history to make sure there is no vandalism. Most vandalism is cleaned up within 5 minutes anyways.
The more people working on an article, the more accurate it's likely to be. - XenophobicAlien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why does the mailman have a bucket on his head? Shouldn't you be wearing the bucket?
- crimsongator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What do you know from Jewish?
- zachws, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This article makes an odd conclusion. The question isn't 'how free should we let people be on the internet', a more interesting issue is the irrelvence of whether or not he had a PhD. Was his content facetious or just his identity?
- scrag10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That guy is awesome?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This guy should just write for http://wiqipedia.org the fake encylcopedia / Wikipedia.
- SVPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Andrew Orlowski is a complete asshat and this story is bunk made up out of thin air as a sensationalized reaction to Ryan Jordan's dismissal?
Isn't this typical Orlowski - all hype and no substantial fact? - gojeda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If people really knew how wikipedia was run, it would become the laughingstock of the Internet.
I guess you'd have to work there to know why. - nonchallant0819, on 03/28/2008, -0/+0This is a great story... found this one through http://www.google.com
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http://www.TopNotchCarpentry.com - redirect, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What a weird article- there is no money involved, and its a encyclopedia, big deal it is not a cult it is an online encyclopedia. and this guy who faked some creds, big deal. he is listed as the 365 th largest contributer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits
who cares. they make this sound like it is a tome of mankind, the most important book of all time and that it is holy and the people that edit it are druids of knowledge.
again its a ***** encyclopedia. -
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