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- spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Good Research, keep it up...just be careful in your correlations and your inadvertent implications/assumptions in the way you present it. I got the sense (whether it was your intention or not) that you are accusing or at least presuming that giantapplecore was spamming for this site. They're a huge beneficiary of his (probably) free work (well written headlines, story descriptions, etc) which is AT LEAST, if not more important to getting to the FP than your number of digg friends, etc. The new algo changes make it even more difficult to get to the FP if it's just friends digging your story.
All of the top diggers I've ever had the pleasure of chatting with are not spammers in any sense or "on the take" for anyone as it were (accept maybe Netscape, but their business model and not spam -- they're employees!), BUT they actually do this for it it's own sake, because they enjoy it and it's fun and there is sense of empowerment acting as one's own editor and arbiter of what's relevant news & cool, and seeing others validate that.
Digg On.
Chris - spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3More interesting research Dave!
I'm pretty sure I've submitted stories from this particular URL that I read in the print edition of the Wall Street Journal and couldn't find elsewhere on the web or even on WSJ's site without a subscription. Perhaps this is a primary news source for this digger or it's on his RSS feed. The anecdotal evidence you provide is very compelling, but by itself is not proof positive that nwfdailynews.com is gaming digg via this user or vice versa...only of the digg effect on nwfdailynews.com's traffic.
I don't know the user and perhaps it is the case, but I've found some sites are better than others for breaking news to digg, maybe this is giantapplecore's ? Maybe my sense of diggers (top # and otherwise) is too altruistic, but I would be disappointed if the majority of FP's were engineered in this way. - BigKitty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It looks as though many DIGGers tend to submit stories from the sites that they were already familiar with before they joined DIGG, such as, for example, their hometown newspaper or their favorite computer or electronics trade paper.
I've been following certain sites for six or seven years already, and have submitted some stories from those, and others from sites that I just happened to find while looking for something else. There are certain sites that I follow that I haven't submitted any stories from yet, because it wouldn't make sense to do that until a particularly timely or newsworthy event happens to come up. - davenaff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wish I could edit the bad grammar in the original post =). It is totally possible that other diggers are submitting nwfdailynews.com, but there definitely weren't any Top100 digg submitters in the recent past (I may try and do a look back at all promoted stories as opposed to just those submitted by the Top 100).
I'm not passing judgment - giantapplecore definitely writes compelling titles and summaries, and he gets fairly important AP articles elevated to the front page. He probably wouldn't have had much success submitting from news.yahoo.com because someone else would have already entered the URL with a crappy headline.
Regardless of his motivations (which only he can know), he definitely has had a tremendous impact on nwfdailynews.com's traffic, which was the point I was trying to make. - davenaff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Chris,
Thanks for the encouragement and guidance.
Best,
Dave - spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2on what basis? that he gets to the FP with good stories?
- vudicarus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nice analysis. yeah. i've been somewhat mystified with the amount of front page stories from nwfdailynews.com. I mean, North West Florida??? i didn't realize the submissions were just AP stories. I think digg friends do a lot more to get a story promoted than using good headlines/descriptions. Some users will digg any story you submit if you have them as friends. You don't have to ask them or anything. They just digg all on their friend list.
- davenaff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, buried. This post appears to have been buried at 15 diggs.
My earlier post this morning was buried after it had 630 diggs (I didn't even know that was possible).
I guess I pissed off a few too many top diggers ;) - barnis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I reported that guy as a SPAMMER several months ago
- amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1nevermind sorry got confused with another digg story. digg me down
- amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1looks like this post was buried along with mine here
http://digg.com/tech_news/Get_paid_to_submit_to_digg_I_was_asked_and_here_s_the_lame_IM_chat_log


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