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- J3yrad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+56MPAA can suck my balls... RIAA can just eat ***** and die.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33no, you're just traumatized.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22Is it just me or does the MPAA logo look like Goatse?
http://torrentfreak.com/images/mpaa.jpg - holmes101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Yeah, they totally drink ginger beer.
- SigmaDraconis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"The Pirate Bay made it very clear though, that they weren’t very impressed by the MPAA’s scare tactics. Their 'reverse DNS' sends out a clear message to the MPAA and their friends:
hey.mpaa.and.apb.bite.my.shiny.metal.ass.thepiratebay.org. (cf. Futurama)"
TPB will always be made of Win. - tdhurst, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13You were stupid enough to sign with a major label, so just ***** deal with it. If we all knew that the MAJORITY of the money we spend on music was going straight to the artists, we wouldn't have this piracy problem. Instead we have filthy rich music execs and poor artists.
The issue with the music industry is that the RIAA has made themselves seem like a necessary middleman and have gotten RICH off of it.
Now, if I saw that the record industry people were making 40 grand a year, we also might not have a piracy problem.
Bottom line, we're tired of paying exorbitant prices for ***** music only to see that the majority of our money doesn't even go to the artists that produce it.
Artists, here's wake up call...FIND ANOTHER DISTRIBUTION MEDIUM. Learn about this thing called "the internet." I'll gladly pay a buck or two a song directly to you if you let me download a drm free, high quality track. - 1911wolf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+72006: The year the MPAA told the world that we should use The Pirate Bay.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I love how in any other topic the first comment would get buried and J3yrad would be called immature.
/total seriousness - IMustBeEmo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Here's something I would like to ask the heads of RIAA and MPAA:
If piracy was ended 100%, what ***** excuse are you going to use for the complete ***** you dare to call "music" and "movies?
They need piracy to support their excuses of the ***** they put out on the big screen and the radio. If piracy were ended, they would have no more excuses.
This is ignoring the fact that piracy WILL NOT END! I know it won't, but this is a hypothetical question. Either way they are *****!
/owned - kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The RIAA claim that piracy reduces the incentive for artists to create music. This is almost true. It reduces the incentive for artists signed to major record labels to create music.
If piracy swallowed 100% of the music market and people like Britney Spears stopped making music, other artists would take their place. Artists who license their music through Creative Commons, or even just allow their music to be downloaded for free. Donations, sponsorship and merchandise would pay their bills.
I really couldn't give a damn if the Top 40 artists died. Others would take their place, and I'd still have the same variety of music to choose from. There are already thousands of free albums from unsigned bands available on the net. - alephsmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So not only are you incapable of using the reply button but you lie about being on itunes.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The amount of money given to artists by the riaa and the mpaa vs. the sheer amount of profit they make is ridiculous and alienating fans with lawsuits is even more ridiculous, no artist in their right mind would defend their actions.
- Darth_tater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@staggcharger88
That would normally be true if that comment were posted on a story about a political viewpoint or funny you tube clip, where everybody would have a different view and those that disagreed with a different viewpoint would be immaturely flamed. This, however, is something that we can all agree on -- the RIAA/MPAA are complete ***** that have assumed themselves to be exempt from all laws in the name of pure greed. This has to stop. The **AA's have to get their act together and stop blaming piracy, which is inevitable, for their lost sales and instead take responsibility for their ***** business practices and poor quality music/movies/DRM. - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Summary of article: MPAA gets pwned because they're retarded and can't take perspective of a case before they go to court.
And the RIAA is finally going the route of just asking torrent sites to remove content. And if they don't they actually have grounds for a case. - shredswithpiks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4as a fellow (local) musician with a few CDs out I can gladly disagree with you. The amount of money that comes in from CDs is less than a tenth the amount that comes in from playing shows. 2 or 3 shows a month in my crappy little town (with a horrid music scene) is worth about $400/member... CD money is lucky to hit $40 in that month. I don't know about you but I'd rather give my music away and have people come see me live so I can get a larger cut from the venue... (a friend's more popular band brings in about $250-$300 per member for a show... and this is all still local stuff, so they have regular jobs on top of that. Hardly a starving musician in my town).
- KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4pretty sure et was shut down by US customs.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Gotta love private trackers. Except the damn strict ratio requirements and the difficulty in actually getting an account..
- dpmcalli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think your missing the point of encrypting bit torrent traffic completely funkydude101. It provides absolutely no protection from the RIAA, MPAA etc at all. However it may increase your download speeds if your ISP does any sort of traffic shaping that blocks bittorrent.
- bergur1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I cannot take you seriously when your name is ***** but I will give it a shot.
iTunes is not DRM free meaning we cannot use it as we please and we must use our iPods. I would rather download someones music for free and donate a couple of dollars than feed million dollar men who have enough already. Don't quote me on this but I heard artists make more money from accessories like t-shirts and from concert tickets. - shredswithpiks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3music artists definitely make more money on concert tickets... it's like saying disney makes money on their movies. They don't. They use their movies as advertising for their amusement parks (Disney World takes in more money in like... a day... then the movies take in over the course of a year). Musicians have the same deal, except worse since the producers/record labels take a very large percent out of the CD money.
[edit] a buck a song for downloaded music is a ***** deal. that's pretty expensive, actually... I'd rather pay $12 for a whole CD at the store and have a booklet... - mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"The alleged hacker, who was later identified as Robert Anderson, in an interesting turn of events, switched sides and joined Torrentspy in their fight against the MPAA. To date, it is still unclear what motivated him to make this switch."
I'm sure it was something along the lines of "Help us or we press charges." - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wow, never noticed that before. it's like they're displaying their slogan in logo form: "We'll anal-rape you and your family!"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitetorrents
- funkydude101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5gotta love torrent encryption.
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because they have to file to remove content for every album. And the RIAA to even take action has to get permission to send the cease and desist from the record label, then the record label needs permission from the artist.
- Sethwm2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is crazy!! I think that everyone has to come to realize the torrents have won the war. Torrents are always going to live on. There is nothing that can stop it entirely. This is just a minor set back. If anything the companies should be working with the torrent clients and search engines to promote new movies. This could be something good. Still getting free movies. Just like TV networks did with youtube. At first they wanted Youtube dead. Then they though. Oh. Free Ads. And we can make people watch them by putting full shows. On. The same thing. The movie and music industry should come to some kind of agreement. Right now this might sound as useless as trying to stop fighting in the middle east. But I think that it is something that we might see. I don't have any idea on what would happen. But People want there free stuff!!!
- mitrovarr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, the thing I have against the recording and film industries is that they've corrupted copyright law into a complete parody of itself, and introduced DRM to further control your access to information. Copyright law was never intended to protect artists, it's supposed to be like patents; society protects things for a short period, but then it belongs to everyone. Now the period society protects things for has been essentially made eternal, and society gets jack *****. While copyrights are like that, there's no honor in respecting them. In fact, feeding the coffers of organizations like the RIAA and MPAA (and for that matter, Disney, the corporation most responsible for this injustice) only will make it worse in the long run.
- kazuhima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2didnt that whole thing involve some kind of a money scheme?
- mrmatchgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hey.mpaa.and.apb.bite.my.shiny.metal.ass.thepiratebay.org
That just made my day - cyroxos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Agreed tdhurst. First, most of the media I pirate is not available where I live. Secondly, I would gladly spent money on music or video if I knew it went to the artist. But the truth is, something like 1% of the money ever sees the actual artist.
The rich can avoid infringement violations because they threaten to throw their money around, and the riaa/mpaa backs down.
Its the college kid, or the 12 year old girl, or the 30 year old newlywed who runs a server out of his home who gets screwed over mercilessly.
Information should be free anyway, I am a music producer, and I can tell you that I produce music because it is my artistic expression, and it makes me inwardly happy to know that someone wants to listen to my work. - shredswithpiks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2$8500 for 1000 CDs? That means your getting $8.50 on each CD sold... I'm willing to bet nobody in the big industry is seeing anywhere near those returns.
- IMustBeEmo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They are successful. They are achieving what they want.
They want market dominance. They want monopolies. They want to sue their customers. They want to end piracy.
Therefore they are successful. They are succesful at sucking the life out of music and movies. - greekgoat91, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the RIAA and MPAA need to get their ***** together, we want music and movies without DRM and for a decent price.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1scarred for life.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i'm nervous about when private trackers start letting too many people in.. anyone ever get a cease & desist or lawsuit from a private torrent?
right now, my favorite music torrent site has over 100,000 users. the bigger it gets, the more likely it is that someone from a MAFIAA-hired investigation firm gets an account - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What is your band name so we can download your tracks off iTunes? Also - what cut do you get from each download?
- Hegemony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1When I hear about all the crazy ***** the MPAA and RIAA do I feel like I'm reading about the mafia. What the ***** is wrong with them? If they don't get with the future they'll find themselves unable to compete in it.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Im curious though as to why there is still so much copyrighted music on isohunt(not that i ever download from there or anything...)
- bioskope, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3collective arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
- SierraAlpha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh man, what will the MPAA think of next?
- click170, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm just happy that the MPAA and RIAA are as stupid as they are. I maintain the sincerest of hopes that both companies are suddenly bankrupted by some wonderfully convenient other corporate entity, but until I own said entity, I won't hold my breath.
Seriously though, at least both companies aren't smarter then they are. Imagine a world where they were successful. Scary, isn't it? - ShitStorm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oh and one more thing. I'm not agreeing with distribution companies jacking prices nor supporting labels or their sytem. But it worked. It provided a way to make a living off of music. Even inderpendent artists like myself who saigned to Indy labels can't get a check to support a 7 state tour. If I rely soley on myspace, local shows and word of mouth, I may at best sell a thousand cd's. Thats about $8,500 in profit. People make double that a year at McDonalds. I even have local fans now that are stealing my music and I haven't done jack ***** yet.
and once again, torrent sites are providing whole packages of discography's and DVD sets. Thats ***** straight jacking. If you can't admit your a theif and its wrong than thats your problem. - mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2..and they both can clean up the mess afterward
- jasonschwartz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'll watch on the internet with ads. whichever takes less amount of time to get, that's the major factor.
- craziestmule, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"At this point the cases against Torrentspy, Torrentbox and Isohunt are still pending, and it is unsure whether the Niteshdw admin had to sell his daughter."
i love blogs with humor. - ShitStorm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You're a real idiot. When I mentioned Itunes if you read, I was refering to all music and musicians. Not myself. i never stated anywhere I was on itunes. I'm presently between deals right now, but I've been signed for 5 years.
i can already tell that you are beyond a waste of time to argue with. You're rude and no absolutely nothing about the business you steal from. Theif. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1MPAA u suck
- VortexICS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0for once, the voice of the people was finally heard ...
- schmiggyjk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Private trackers are the current and future.
These public trackers just attract too much attention. I have friends who have been running one for a good couple years now and its flawless. Especially if you keep in a close group of people, with a couple with topsite access.
And the bigger private trackers with their less than a minute pretimes are right behind that, a lesser balance of security and speed, but still great none the less.
Let the keep on coming at BT, its not going to change anything - mike503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i was going to post basically the same thing.
if they had a decent distribution system setup they could make it easier on everyone. although it would probably be efficient enough for them to not be able to justify their large markup, that's probably the reason they haven't.
i do not want DRM'ed files (i still have hundreds of gigs of useless DRM'ed content from a site that expired on me, even though they sold me up front with "downloadable movies") - i feel guilty deleting it but it is basically useless now.
if it's cheap enough, i think a lot of people will buy in to it. enough so i would think that they do not need to DRM files. part of the issue is the whole album strategy - people like me only want one song, i don't want to pay for an entire album. etc. make that song easy to listen to in a preview format (so i know it's the right remix or song, that's a big thing) and allow me to buy it for a decent price - and keep a record of it so i can redownload it in the future if my copy ever got corrupted - and you've got yourself a deal.
(same goes with movies, software, anything) -
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