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"Over 100 Mbps would be amazing, but I can't honestly see myself, or most people, fully utilizing this."

Careful Mr. Gates, you don't want any of your predictions come back to haunt you. Truthfully, I don't think I even peg today's download limitations too often but the HD versions of some video clips come closest. BTW the South Koreans are putting us to shame as mentioned in TFA and the link below takes one to the previous Digg discussion

FiOS is capable over 650 Mbps down right now, but the bulk of that is taken up by TV signals. And about 120 Mbps up.

All that matters is upload speed. 160mbps downstream is useless if the upstream is 768kbps.

120Mbps upload speed? woo hoo!

"160Mbps downloads move closer for US cable customers" how much $$$ we have to fork out for it?

for around 6Mbps, we are paying(to comcast) 45 bucks. just guess how much would it be for 160Mbps

anyways, I don't see them offering 160Mbps in the near future... in 5yrs maybe.

Great, now when will every web host & nationwide backbone upgrade their UPLOAD speeds to better use this?

And true, we do need faster upload speeds. They are still stuck in the dark ages, kind of like attachment limits for email.

more importantly is will I see this in my lifetime...

That sounds excellent

Us Brits are still lagging behind with the maximum speed (for most home users) being only around 10mb.

Seems like no cable company would want to do this, since they are effectively providing their future competition (aka iTunes, Unbox, etc.) a bigger pipe into your living room. What's the advantage for them?

I am amazed the MPAA isn't murdering people trying to implement this.

On a lighter note, anyone notice when you google MPAA HD-DVD KEY the second listing is a link to the MPAA with the key in it. They better issue an CAD to themselves.

and then we can only download 40 gb a month due to bandwidth use or limit our download speed down too 2 mbit due to peak hours from our ISP's... in the near future... :p

Today's servers have trouble giving me my full 10Mbps. I would hate to see the beating that a 100Mbps connection would give a server.

160Mbps download but we'll still have a 384Kbps upload.

A speed this fast would be nice but imagine the cost. Comcast already charges much more for their "faster Internet" service. I've recently seen commercials where they poke fun at DSL customers because of its slow speed (the commercial with the talking turtles). They brag about how their Internet is just so much quicker. Only problem, for the speed they offer, it costs almost twice as much as AT&T's fastest plan. For 6.0mbps. DSL, it is $34.99/month. For Comast's cable (which does not state a speed but seems to range from 1.5mbps. to 7.5mbps), it is $62.99/month.

I'm very pleased with my Comcast digital cable service but the price has always bothered me. I can't imagine paying an additional $60+ (which will end up being $70 due to various "franchise" fees and taxes) just for Internet access.

oh man, usenet and i would really love each other at those speeds!

Am I the only one thinking "CounterStrike:Source (or online gaming in general) on a 160Mbps connection would rock!"

With bandwidth as a non-issue, would cable companies then lift the hosting restrictions that most of them enforce?

Bah.. BS The cable company cant even deliver what they're currently selling.. let them accomplish that, then we'll talk about something else..

It's not 160Mbps to your desktop - it's a shared bandwith per node, allocated how the cableco sees fit. DOCSIS 3.0 is roughly 4x faster than DOCSIS 2.0.

But I'm not complaining about an up to 4x improvement in speed either.

160MBPS thats atleast 106 times faster then anything that is available in australia. 1.5 mb at its cheapest is AU$60 per month. absolutely rediculous

Download is plenty fast, its the upload that needs the boost. I have comcast cable and pay for top level service 8mb/768. Down speed is great .... up is not so good. I think 10 to 15 down and 1 to 3 up would be great. Obviously this service is way over sold and there is no guarantied bandwidth (unlike business/enterprise SLA)

But considering that T-1 service costs 400 to 800$ a month for 1.5/1.5. And metro Ethernet is 1800$ for 10/10, and 2500$ for 20/20.

I wish business/enterprise pricing would catch up.

Please remember that that is GROUP speed. I had Comcast cable and you don't have an Internet connection, you are added to a group line. In my case WE had a 10MB connection which was great when we were the only ones on it as it topped out at 3.5Mb as Comcast probably only had a T3 to feed it. The bubble burst when everyone in my neighborhood signed up and logged in so right after dinner time my connection dropped to 35Kb. Yes, I would have done better with a modem. So I switched to Verizon and got 3Mb, which will still be faster than Comcast once 60 people are on your loop.
PS All of those other people can also monitor your traffic, so be nice to your neighbors.

The reasons why 19 countries are ahead of the industrialized United States, both in broadband market penetration and speed averages, are not always clear and well-defined. The United State's Defense Department is responsible for the creation of the Internet, how did they fall behind countries like Luxembourg? The easy answer is a lack of government policy or direction. The hard answer is because of the capitalist market and forces that drive the American economy. Another reason is the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The Act allowed deregulation before competition in all aspects of the telecommunications market. Companies merged with potential rivals in local markets, and tended to stay away from competing markets. Natural monopolies formed and continue to operate unimpeded to this day.

The u-Japan project fosters competition and the results are 1 G bps speeds becoming available to a significant portion of Japanese subscribers. All while the FCC defines broadband speed in the United States as being any speed greater than 200 K bps, which is a far cry from the average 50 – 100 M bps speeds found in Korea or Japan. Korea's IT839 plan is a road map for something wonderful. Every IT college student should be made to read it to understand what challenges the United States will face in the upcoming years.

I have to pay $44.95 for 1.5Mbs. I would be perfectly happy (for a while) with 3Mbs. What I want is for it to be LESS EXPENSIVE, not faster!

How about bumping up our upload speeds? While I welcome faster downloads, it is uploads that currently kill me.

I dont think docsis 3.0 will improve latency will it? That would be awesome :-)

What use is this if Comcast is going to cancel your account for using your bandwidth?

Who cares. Comcast will never give us that speed even if it is available.

I currently get the regular throttled service. For about a month I was unthrottled and was able to get around 22Mbit. It was great, then they fixed the connection and I'm right back to 6. If the speed is available, why not give it to us?!?!?!?!

when internet speeds get this fast I would gladly pay for a streaming online HD television and movie service

They can bump it to 320Mbps and I still won't be interested in cable until they improve packet loss and other latency problems.

Great! With all my new cable modem speed they can ban me after one week of heavy use instead of the usual one month!

I just hope that instead of being overall FASTER, that it provides a greater amount of use able bandwidth for everyone on the network. Right now, our cable system isn't really going to be able to handle everyone in the town all streaming live video feeds - and really, I think that's one of the next important things coming from the internet (Joost).

And besides, it would be pretty sweet to download a movie or program via torrent in a few minutes instead of a few hours that it normally takes me.

but first we must destroy the MPAA

Couple things:

1. The technology that AT&T is using for the Fiber to the Node is call VDLS. VDLS typically gets about 65Mb on an average loop. AT&T is only offering 8Mb access today. On the Fiber to the home deployments AT&T is looking at GPON which will push about 85Mb to the home.

2. The big difference between the Cable and the Telco offerings is with the Cable you will be sharing 100Mb w/ everyone in your neighborhood but with the Telco architecture you will have your own 65/85Mb. This is why IPTV has many more possibilities with the Telco network then with the Cable network.

With the revolution in user created content getting ready to hit this will give the Telco's a clear advantage. Think about it.... 400 TV's all streaming there own HD content (400 different shows) will be fine because they will all have 65/85Mb to play with but if you get 400 HD streams (about 4-8Mb/s each) on a 100Mb share pipe..... Ka-pow! No good.

2007 and were still trying to catch up to Japan.

I'm sure this scares the MPAA snd RIAA. one word BITTORRENT!!!

Early prediction.....
Download caps of 160Mbit.

I'm not holding my breath because they're going to charge an arm and a leg for this....

1080p IPTV at high bit-rates baby!

:starts investing in seagate and western digital:

Hey, those puny 500gb hard drives are going to fill up *fast* with those speeds ;)

If we do get 160MBps, I'm going to have to upgrade the switches in my house to gigabit switches.

Edit. I have comcast 6mbit. My average test score at speedtest.net is about 12mbit. The only time I get anything close to that in real life is when I'm downloading from Usenet.

Yeah right, not if you have COMCAST!
You're going to wait for 5 more years and wait for a tech from comcast to come out that doesn't even speak ENGLISH!

Please keep in mind that Cablevision ehre in the NYC metropolitan area is using docsis 2.0.

We also have a 15/2 regular package and a docsis 2.0 package at 30/2.

Do not lump all the cablecompanies together because they are not all the same.

Cablevision ha sbeen doing a pretty good job speed wise and competing with verizon fios.

this is awesome news, but for anything imaginable these days even 50/10 is enough.

heck, can anyones cpu, xbox 360 cpu, or even ps3s cell handle 160mb downloads? i dont think so. even 50mb downloads would be difficult to process.

and yeh optimum online from cablevision is on par with FIOS.

SIGN ME UP!!!

I cant wait :)

What's the highest speed DOCSIS 2.0 will go up to? Is is 30Mbps?

Well, best case scenario would be: this, plus upgraded upload speeds, and whatever cable company that picked it up offering a centralized torrent for their HD content, all for a monthly fee rather than a pay-per-download plan.

Though this would never happen.

my connection speed is 64 kb ... i am very happy with that (kidding) :(

Don't hold your breath waiting for DOCSIS 3.0

Back around 2001 SBC also said they'd have DSL available for every single one of their landline customers by the end of 2003, and we're still waiting on that one.