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- byukid, on 11/21/2008, -3/+211From what I understand, it's a series of tubes.
- ubernoggin, on 11/21/2008, -1/+57It's not a truck.
- jcpudd, on 11/21/2008, -1/+45From Wikipedia...
"Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday [Tuesday]. Why? Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.
[...] They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."
It's like listening to grandfather after he has an "episode" - Benjigga, on 11/22/2008, -4/+39"Hmm, this looks like an interesting article."
** Click. Read a little. Scroll down to read more. Notice 4 pages. Close window. **
"Not that interesting."
If anything is going to be multiple pages it better be really ***** interesting, or really ***** huge. - lemur, on 11/22/2008, -0/+26It's not a BIG truck.
- dancraggs, on 11/22/2008, -1/+23That was awful. Just awful. First off, some of those 'myths' are so obvious. Secondly, this is utter b*ll*cks:
"IP was designed to support new transport protocols underneath it, but increasingly this isn't true, Thaler says. Most NATs and firewalls only allow Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) and User Datagram Protocol (UDP) for transporting packets. Newer Web-based applications only operate over Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)."
Does someone need to go read up on their OSI model? TCP and UDP are above IP. By supporting 'only' those, that tells you nothing about whether you support IP or not. And HTTP is in the top (Application) layer, and has to USE protocols like IP.
I'm sure I could come up with something a little more coherent than that if it weren't 2:30am.
Edit: Also, doesn't almost anyone that's downloaded anything ever know that download ('transfer') speeds aren't anywhere near static? - oboshoe, on 11/22/2008, -2/+23eh.
I was hoping for something more profound and eye opening.
Just collection of IP routing facts that I figured every IT guy knew.
I guess I should get more. - crazzy88ss, on 11/22/2008, -2/+22Seriously? Four pages for 12 short items?
- fatbas202, on 11/22/2008, -3/+2112 "Myths"? WTF? Who ever perpetuated the myth that communication on the Internet was secure?
IP addresses rarely change. Then why the hell was DHCP desinged?
If two machines are on the same subnet then they are physically close to each other. Then why do we have managed switches and VLANs?
1) if a casual user had any of these preconceived notions then they knew very little to begin with and probably do not understand most of the terminology in the article and are still just as clueless.
2) If a developer had these 12 assumptions and was writing software with this in mind then he has no business writing code. Period.
3) If any sort of network tech/engineer/etc. had even one of these notions (barring #8 because that 'myth' is total BS. OSI model anyone?), especially #11, then he should be out of a job.
No reasonable person in IT should ever think any of these "myths" are true.
Buried for being misinformation. - steger, on 11/22/2008, -2/+19Al Gore runs in a large hamster wheel, which gives me Internet.
- BigManOnCampus, on 11/21/2008, -1/+18The RIAA should read this.
- tbhurst, on 11/21/2008, -4/+20Yes, definitely tubes.
- scarwars, on 11/22/2008, -3/+18leprachauns deliver my porn
- nahsrocketeer75, on 11/21/2008, -4/+18It's not a truck? WTF?
- DeathJux, on 11/22/2008, -3/+17That was a terrible article.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -4/+17hmmm interesting. I'm more clueless than I thought!
- AFelsinger, on 11/21/2008, -4/+17i prefer to think of it as being magic
- Julie188, on 11/21/2008, -4/+16Interesting ... my personal myth about the Internet is that its a form of magic, like Harry Potter's floo powder ...
- opensourcer, on 11/22/2008, -0/+8that's the first thing that came to mind when i saw the title...good call
- IronDonut, on 11/22/2008, -2/+9If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port,
and the bus is interrupted as a very last resort,
and the address of the memory makes your floppy disk abort,
then the socket packet pocket has an error to report.
If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash,
and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash,
and your data is corrupted 'cause the index doesn't hash,
then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!
If the label on the cable on the table at your house,
says the network is connected to the button on your mouse,
but your packets want to tunnel on another protocol,
that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall,
and you screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss,
so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse,
then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang,
'cause as sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!
When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disk,
and the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risk,
then you have to flash your memory, and you'll want to RAM your ROM.
Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your mom. - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7I'm pretty sure Al Gore doesn't run anywhere.
- doublefelix, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6I think Ted was just pissed because the internet truck didn't back up to his cabin with a bunch of contractors willing to do free home renovations.
- hark, on 11/22/2008, -1/+7You know... WTF is FTW backwards..
Just thought i would point that out.
carry on. - tjallen, on 11/22/2008, -3/+9The series of tubes made sense to me. Now I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of wireless tubes.
- DeathJux, on 11/22/2008, -1/+7Learn to look for the "Print" button on these articles, as it strips out ads and ***** and presents it all on one page.
This was a terrible article anyway. - virtualonliner, on 11/22/2008, -0/+513. Internet has enough p0rn.
- XcentryK, on 11/22/2008, -2/+714. "Lolcats" account for 97% of all Internet traffic, where as the remaining 3% comprises of pornography, animated GIF files of dancing mice and Chuck Norris jokes.
- Neiby, on 11/22/2008, -0/+4You're exactly right. TCP and UDP are transport layer protocols *above* IP in the stack. And why he mentions HTTP in that paragraph is beyond me. As you mentioned, HTTP is an application layer protocol, not transport layer.
- illDecree, on 11/22/2008, -0/+31. If I can reach you, you can reach me.
2. If I can reach you, and you can reach her, then I can reach her.
3. Multicast always works.
4. The time it takes to initiate communications between two systems is what you'll see throughout the communication.
5. IP addresses rarely change.
6. A computer has only one IP address and one interface to the network.
7. If you and I have addresses in a subnet, we must be near each other.
8. New transport-layer protocols will work across the Internet.
9. If one stream between you and me can get through, so can another one.
10. Internet communications are not changed in transit.
11. Internet communications are private.
12. Source addresses are not forged.
why couldn't this all go on the same page? - redwallhp, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3"5. IP addresses rarely change."
That's why I don't like IP banning. If the IP gets re-assigned, a legitimate user of an app could be locked out. - Giga, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3That's a myth that Senator Ted Stevens made up. The internet really is a big truck. If I dispatch a message with the truck and Ted's office sends him an internet, of course it is going to be late as the truck is already on route somewhere else.
- CrashDavis, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3That article was a real snoozer... zzz...
- pfhayter, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3I have personally decided to take up your coat of arms and together we will spread your message.
- amauldin71, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3And I heard that what flows through the tubes is a combination of jelly beans and sunshine.
- JKAL, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3These are not myths...!
these are basic n00b assumptions. - schavira, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3Same, damn.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3That is so awesome that "bollucks" isn't a swear word in the United States. We don't even know what it really means!!
- 5urr3al5am, on 11/22/2008, -1/+4fatbas202 -- your post was much more accurate and entertaining than the article
- Jordan117, on 11/22/2008, -0/+313. The internet is powered by millions of hamsters on wheels.
TRUTH: Actually, the internet is powered by gerbils. - FKnight, on 11/22/2008, -0/+3Buried as inaccurate. Absolutely no one who needs to deal with this stuff has ever believed or perpetuated any of these so-called "myths", and the author obviously hasn't seen the OSI diagram recently.
- Delta009, on 11/22/2008, -0/+213. Internet works on Internet Explorer only.
Maybe the most widespread Internet myth of all time, thanks to Microsoft®. - Izacus, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2"IP was designed to support new transport protocols underneath it, but increasingly this isn't true, Thaler says. Most NATs and firewalls only allow Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) and User Datagram Protocol (UDP) for transporting packets. Newer Web-based applications only operate over Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP). "
Huh? TCP and UDP are transport layer protocols. HTTP is application layer protcol. HTTP uses TCP underneath to actually transport it's requests. Not to mention TCP, UDP and HTTP are ABOVE not underneath the IP protocol. You first send data to TCP to fragment it, which then sends it to IP layer that actually handles the routing.
The article would be alot better if author actually knew something about networking. - 5urr3al5am, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2and a sucky list at that
- BiIlyMays, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Myth 12: Computers can only list three facts per page
- Nabeelco, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2Yeah, thats pretty freaking stupid, I read the first 3 and closed the window in a stupefying rage.
Buried for stupidity. - scoottie, on 11/22/2008, -1/+3so many thoughts of how bad this article is, but i just cant put them down in a coherent manner
- Vectorkov, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2I was expecting some far more profound. What a crap article.
- vardhaman2249, on 11/22/2008, -0/+2i consider myself a complete networking noob and i knew all of them. :S
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