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- darkbob87, on 07/02/2009, -0/+38Why would VCR be on there? It was the dominant format for over 15 years...
- WL92, on 07/02/2009, -1/+22Best subtitle ever. Article, not so much.
- miketowninc, on 07/02/2009, -0/+20I think there is a difference between "failed" technologies and "developing" ones.
- leo78, on 07/02/2009, -1/+20Calling the VCR a failure would be like calling analog TV a failure. It didn't fail there are just newer technologies.
Also, while Beta Max failed as a consumer standard, it's lived a long life in the professional world as Betacam.
HD DVD just outright failed everywhere. - bdbr, on 07/02/2009, -0/+13We did some experimenting with desktop video conferencing at work. The touchy-feelie manager types liked them, but everyone else hated being in front of a camera. I'm not sure if Apple can fix that.
- keyo, on 07/03/2009, -3/+1213. Speech input programs. Talking to your computer is weird, and they're always inaccurate and take ages to train.
- khoa1708, on 07/02/2009, -0/+8the virtual boy
- Rikkochet, on 07/02/2009, -0/+7I suppose you're getting buried by people who don't want to bother replying to tell you of the plethora of emerging solar cell technologies that are clean to produce and more efficient than the current generation, which is already pretty damn good.
I suppose they also don't want to provide you with links to that info... I bet there's a really good search engine you can type that sort of stuff into to find it out. - Wuss, on 07/02/2009, -0/+7Betamax probably isn't on the list because it's story has engrained itself into our generations subconscious the same way kids in the 50's were taught to fear nukes. We're now all born with a innate awareness of the betamax story, why it was better, and why it failed.
- leo78, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6I never said the better format won.
I just stated the fact that HD DVD failed.
Don't forget Betamax was a much better tech than VHS.
That doesn't change the fact that it didn't sell for home use. - hepafilter, on 07/02/2009, -1/+6Articles put all on one page.
- danielinvermont, on 07/03/2009, -1/+6I installed solar panels on my house last year,they cost $25,000. I used to pay $200/month for electric, I also added electric heaters through out my house so I save about $3500/year because I do not have buy heating oil or firewood. These solar panels will pay for themselves in about 6 years.
- Piha, on 07/03/2009, -0/+5What a completely stupid article. Individual proprietary products do not = technology when substitutes exist.
Examples:
- Quadrophonic surround failed, but DTS surround sound didn't.
- HD-DVD failed, but Blu-ray was successful.
- Personal Transportation Devices failed because the segway failed, yet scooters and other were successful.
That's like saying computers failed because we don't use OS/2 much, Or that cars failed because the Aztek looks like crap.
And some are just plain wrong, mobile video chat works fine in the UK, I've used it, I hear it is even more successful in Japan. And the thing about VR failing because we can't handle '2 worlds at the same time'... what a croc of *****, gee that would explain why FPS games are so unsuccessful /sarc
Some other products are doing ok, but just don't have mega-uptake, big deal, if they work then they haven't failed have they. - CyberStriker, on 07/02/2009, -1/+6Video Calling only has issues in the US. It's very popular and works fine everywhere else, in Europe, Middle-East, especially Asia, and other parts of the world. You can thank your crappy carriers like AT&T for not implementing 3G fast enough to match the progress of the rest of the world. In this regard America is behind the curve, so to speak. So, you can hardly call video calling a failed technology.
- OneOneTwoThree, on 07/02/2009, -0/+5Who didn't guess the segway would be in this list?
- mrhahn, on 07/02/2009, -1/+5"In the UK and US, video chat over a smartphone is still a distant dream. Part of the problem is bandwidth – there just isn't enough of it for two-way video. Part of the issue is ease of use: it should be as quick to place a video call as one where you only use your voice."
I wouldn't say that's true in the UK. On my Nokia N73, I'd select a contact and choose Video Call and it worked straight away. - Ultomato, on 07/02/2009, -0/+4how do solar panels fail if they havent been properly utilized to their full potential? solar panels are just like any technology, it will be improved if there is enough demand for it. once consumers start buying electric cars there will be a big demand for greener, more efficient and most importantly, cheaper solar panels.
- kenhatesemos, on 07/02/2009, -1/+5Gob is going to bring the Segway back into the mainstream.
- inactive, on 07/02/2009, -2/+6meh list is so-so.
- Latinbaseballer, on 07/02/2009, -5/+9Why is HD DVD on that list. I dont see Beta Max or VCR on there. There really isnt a mystery on that one.
- Super6, on 07/02/2009, -0/+4The Segway is super badass, the only problem with it is price, it's way more fun than basically all other forms of transport that do what it does, the difference is that scooters are a few hundred, segways are about 5k
- keyo, on 07/03/2009, -0/+4They look pretty nerdy. I guess it's because only rich nerdy types buy them, that makes them abnormal.
- Piha, on 07/03/2009, -0/+4Maybe the author simply thought if he repeated his personal view 3 times it would be a convincing argument.
- robbob, on 07/03/2009, -1/+4in 1996 or so there was that smell peripheral company.
Just didn't make sense. - jcrew77, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3Payback on existing tech is one year. After that they pay maintenance costs. Wonder how much those maintenance costs compare/kW to coal? I do not know, but I doubt it makes it 45x the costs of it. PV is only one method and not the method favored for large solar plants. PV is for roof top deployment though some large plants will be built that way. Fed is streamlining regulation to allow large solar plants to be built by private entities (think corporations) on government managed land in the areas best suited for solar. If 100% of that are a is developed, solar could provide 1/3rd of US power (if the infrastructure is upgraded to transmit that power to where it is needed).
And instead of me retyping it all, go read it for yourself:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/07/de ... - dazparkour, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3Turd clean. Beach foot wigwams. Torquing two computer is beard, hand their all day inn carrot hand bake babies too, brain.
- nepidae, on 07/02/2009, -0/+3So this is the one thing pot can't solve?
- Bloodboiler, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3I have trouble perceiving why "we have trouble perceiving two worlds at once" appears three times in the article.
It is not even remotely correct. Your attention system is perfectly capable to shut down attention to everything outside a TV of computer screen and VR systems make it even easier.
What makes true VR immersion difficult is human vision (and hearing). Tiny screens inside goggles are nowhere near enough to cover the entire area you can see by just moving your eyes. Another problem inflicting all 3D systems -including VR- is that brain uses focus length of eyes (i.e., size of iris) as a factor in determining how far objects are. When you look at a 3D movie, your eyes focus on the flat image on the canvas and give distance information that is incompatible with the image you are actually seeing. - sark666, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3VR isn't a bad idea or a dud, it was just way ahead of it's time. It's was a fantastic idea then and it's a fantastic idea now. The problem was, they were trying to 3d on two screens when 3d was barely being done on one. So you ended up with two super low res, super choppy screens. I tried a few and I might of accepted the crude graphics, but for any feeling of immersion you need a solid 60fps. Those games felt like they were 12fps.
Systems are powerful enough now, why won't someone try and resurrect this technology? - yaosio, on 07/03/2009, -0/+36. The driverless car
It failed by not existing yet (except for the DARPA challanges :) ). So all things that have yet to be invented have failed, and therefore are bad. - GreatDrok, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3I own both HD DVD and Blu-ray and of the two, HD DVD was the better format by far. The picture quality and sound quality are identical but interactivity on HD DVD was lightyears ahead of BD and still is. My BD player is profile 2.0 which means it just about meets the standard of HD DVD and yet it is still slow to respond and clunky whereas HD DVD was smooth and easy.
Don't fool yourself into thinking the best format won. The most locked format won and that is just how the studios wanted it. HD DVDs were the same the world over. No region coding. All the studios who released on HD DVD are also releasing region free on BD so I guess we haven't lost much but it is still an irritation. BD is also much harder to rip because of BD+. - joshuaer, on 07/03/2009, -0/+3you had to go and bring os/2 warp into it.
- joshuaer, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2I remember some company trying to make a usb smell device for websites or something ya lame idea.
- ziggotron, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2We have it here in Australia (of all places), I'd blame the slow adoption rate for video calling here is because of the exorbitant prices the telcos charge for it - not ease of use.
- Ultomato, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2"..if all solar is capable of doing is supplementing the existing grid, then for it to be practical it has to be CHEAPER than the existing grid. I doubt it will ever be cheaper."
yes right now they are only supplementing the grid because the demand is just not there therefore the technology is expensive. solar panels could get rid of the grid altogether. - termerjur, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2Yeah because if you have an avatar your contractually obligated to use it for sex no matter the circumstances.
wot? - grgt1994, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2Saying Dolby surround killed quadraphonic sound is like saying the CD killed the 8-track, or the blu-ray killed the Betamax. Quad sound was dead and buried a decade before Dolby brought surround sound to the mainstream, and even then the pick up rate was not fast (still is not all that widespread).
- ohreilly, on 07/03/2009, -0/+2"In the UK and US, video chat over a smartphone is still a distant dream. Part of the problem is bandwidth – there just isn't enough of it for two-way video"
wat
I've been able to make a video call on my 3G phone since 2003 (I live in the UK), and it works. No one does because it costs 50p/minute and is never included in contract line rentals like voice minutes / text messages.
I'm surprised they didn't say it's because the iPhone can't do it, because of course the iPhone is the be-all and end-all of mobile telecommunications. - termerjur, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1Yeah because if at first you don't succeed - give the hell up.
wot? - pfhayter, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1Line of site? Really? This technology is far from failed.
- jbrandonbb, on 07/06/2009, -0/+1What is your list?
- Ultomato, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1doesnt the grid kick in if the energy storage from the solar panels runs out of juice?
- jbrandonbb, on 07/06/2009, -0/+1Not really. These are items I wrote about that had potential, developed, have been around a while, and have just not made an impact.
- danielinvermont, on 07/05/2009, -0/+1We have battery back ups we are still on the grid, I can get my power turned back on in 24 hours. The panels still collect energy even during cloudy days. We survived this past winter with no problems, ( very early snow and several -30˚ days) the only drawback is during a snow storm you have to go out every hour and brush the snow off the panels.
- adilio, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1Is it just me, or does this article suffer the same fate as its topic.
The idea seemed great, details were glazed over and blanket generalizations were made, and it never really took off due to poor execution. - mrBitch, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1GPS collars may have failed on dogs, but why not target the jumping & barking dog?
".. new from Mattel, with TRU-SOUND barking technology and 360 degree rotating head, motion sensor eyes light up (GPS collar is an optional accessory) ..." - jbrandonbb, on 07/06/2009, -0/+1No, it was because that is the problem in each of those instances.
- jbrandonbb, on 07/06/2009, -0/+1Do you have some stats to support your research? Most experts say that VR failed because of perception -- it makes you feel sick, because your brain is processing two worlds at the exact same time. I spoke with a Microsoft expert who didn't want to be quoted who said that is why VR failed. In an FPS, your brain can understand that the game is running on a screen but you are still "grounded" by reality around you.
Even with systems like the ones you describe -- with very high-res or that address perception issues -- people still get sick. - jbrandonbb, on 07/06/2009, -0/+1>> - Quadrophonic surround failed, but DTS surround sound didn't.
- HD-DVD failed, but Blu-ray was successful.
- Personal Transportation Devices failed because the segway failed, yet scooters and other were successful.
That's like saying computers failed because we don't use OS/2 much, Or that cars failed because the Aztek looks like crap.
Not really. I think your logic is a little off. A computer is an entire platform segment, and OS/2 is a minor OS that never took off. A personal transport device is a competitor to a scooter, not a sub-category. - JudgeMonkey, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1Well, who was it? Oprah or something, anyway, whoever had that little talk show within second life, they didn't EXPECT the penis storm, but it happened anyway.
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