What is Digg?96 Comments
- Syphon0928, on 10/10/2008, -5/+68Let's get rid of MySpace.
- theutopian, on 10/10/2008, -2/+33Of course Digg is not on the list.
Economic downturn = people with more free time to surf the net and look at ads. - Mononuclear, on 10/11/2008, -1/+23This list is just "11 websites that I think are going to have problems but I don't really know what I am talking about and I just picked some random popular sites so I can get more page views"
I don't think I agree with one single item on this list. Pandora might go down but that has nothing to do with the current economy and more to do with the long time going war with the RIAA and copyright laws. Skype is huge in many other countries and used as a cheap international telephone service with Skypeout. I could go on and on but this list is pretty lame. - takamichinaku, on 10/10/2008, -3/+24This list does not mention Google, Yahoo and MSN !!
- brainnovate, on 10/10/2008, -0/+16I am shocked Yahoo is not on the list, frankly.
- HuskyPuzzle, on 10/11/2008, -0/+14I don't care what you say about Second Life (not a fan myself), but they are NETTING $750K/month. Not going out of biz anytime soon...
- bakkouz, on 10/10/2008, -3/+16Why would Digg be on the list, it just got like $23 Million or something in funding. I'd say it's doing pretty well.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2008, -0/+10Business meetings in Second Life are a joke. What do the "collaborative spaces" Second Life offer actually compete with? Free video calls? Phone calls? Skype? Nothing screams "unprofessional" like flying away from a business meeting in a pink tube top.
- mrgeekguy, on 10/11/2008, -0/+10This reminds me of when the list of suicidal teens came out in high school and I wasn't on it, my parents were so proud.
- dpogni, on 10/11/2008, -0/+10all based on opinion, no real face behind this list
- FlyingPhotog, on 10/11/2008, -0/+9Absence from the list doesn't mean Digg is trouble-free.
- shadowspawn, on 10/11/2008, -1/+10Not for long, because over 90% of digg users have adblock and remove the whitelist domains that digg uses.
this happened to several also-rans (and digg isn't one, not yet). they were community driven, the community blocked the ads, the sites stopped allowing community-posted lists.
Tell ya what, I am usually shocked at the layout on advertisement-enabled aka virgin browsers display for digg. I might surf from a friend's computer and damn, what do you see? Advertisements.
People come up to me at the pub when seeing I'm on digg and ask if I have some sort of hyper account for digg that I pay for, because it's quick, fast, and no advertisements.
Wonder why. - F9Phoenix, on 10/11/2008, -2/+11How to get on Digg: Make a lame ass top # list. What is wrong with you people? How is no one else completely fed up with nothing but top # lists being on Digg non-stop? It's the most unoriginal idea on the Web and it continues to flourish among the sheep.
Sorry for the rant, it's just that I used to like Digg because it had unique items I never heard of. Now it's completely overrun with the same sites and complete mediocrity. - xrmb, on 10/11/2008, -0/+9hmm, I wonder why cnet is not on the list... I can't remember seeing anything good there in years...
- Shadoblak, on 10/11/2008, -0/+8Someone will buy Twitter if it comes down to it...
- Medicamusic, on 10/28/2008, -1/+9Skype is actually pretty cool. Lets me video chat/ audio chat to friends traveling in other countries for free
- Khast, on 10/11/2008, -1/+9They mentioned Skype, but they forgot to mention eBay....the way they have been treating the sellers lately, I would think that they were going to go out of business by shooting themselves in the foot.
eBay = Paypal......Paypal is the ONLY method of payment allowed on eBay at the end of the month....Paypal protects bidders...but leaves sellers open to fraud by the bidder. (And sellers are starting to realize this.) - CobaltBlue, on 10/11/2008, -0/+8It's like having an AOL email address or a geocities page these days.
- mongo22, on 10/11/2008, -0/+8MySpace is dying. Too many other good social networking sites are coming along. You shouldn't be embarrassed to say you have a page, but I kinda am with saying I have a Myspace page. It feels girly.
- brainnovate, on 10/10/2008, -0/+7Twitter just recently got a big round too, but they are on the list.
- leamanc, on 10/11/2008, -0/+7It's that whole free part that has them on this list. Although SkypeOut minutes are an effectively cheap way to make phone calls, most people just use Skype for free to make calls to other Skype users.
- theutopian, on 10/10/2008, -1/+8There will always be advertisers.
- nicoroddz, on 10/10/2008, -3/+10What about yahoo?
- gallito89, on 10/11/2008, -1/+7If SecondLife is on the way out while still making a profit, I would like to know why YAHOO DIDN"T MAKE THIS LIST?
- iMacFiend, on 10/10/2008, -8/+14I don't entirely agree regarding Second Life, if it continues to be unsound to travel, or just plain too expensive, then companies will start to make use of collaborative spaces that SL can offer. Also they have a fair bit of money coming in, it's not as if they don't have a useful revenue model!
- inactive, on 10/11/2008, -11/+17MySpace and Twitter are pieces of *****.
- takamichinaku, on 10/10/2008, -2/+8NO
It means no advertisers to pay digg !! - bblande, on 10/11/2008, -4/+10Twitter has to be one of the dumbest ideas ever and fuels narcissistic behavior.
- marksands07, on 10/11/2008, -1/+7Netvibes is awesome.
- WhoDoneIt, on 10/11/2008, -0/+6But not everyone is into sockpuppets.
R.I.P Lambchop - brundlefly76, on 10/11/2008, -0/+6Of course digg isn't on the list - its not even *profitable* yet and is still burning through private investment capital - (the latest round being $29M secured in September):
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/26/digg-valued-a ...
Digg was built to sell, and has had several serious offers from NewsCorp, Yahoo! and Google, but they have all fell through or been rejected - there is no business model attached to digg - if they need $29M as of last month the ad revenue obviously is not covering any significant operating expenses.
Obviously the mini-boom of Web 2.0 is over, and I don't think digg can expect to be getting any serious offers anywhere *near* those they have turned down - sure as hell not from Yahoo!, whose stock has absolutely tanked since they last approached them.
They got greedy and missed their opportunity. - crossmr, on 10/11/2008, -0/+6So? Skype is a type of p2p calling application, it doesn't go through their servers except for sign on. Their costs aren't that high compared to other webservices which host a lot of content and use a lot of expensive bandwidth.
- getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -3/+8Then they found the bag of dead animals in your closet, and the urine stains on your mattress. Please stop killing.
- quasipolymath, on 10/11/2008, -0/+5I guess you don't know much about math. Net 750K, as in after they pay for their "hadware" and "bandwith bills".
- WhoDoneIt, on 10/11/2008, -2/+7This will probably get me dugg down, but that's fine, I'm going to say what I think could be an issue with some of these social media sites.
I personally think that a lot of these people that use some of these services like Meebo, Twitter, to name a couple, are the same people who love fads and hop onto the bandwagon. It's not to say that these services are bad, but I think they initially have a large following followed by a lull period as their attention span weens and finds the next "best thing".
The key in my opinion would be to figure out how to evolve with these people and give them what they are after. Take Digg for a second, while it's not on this list it is damn apparent that many people are upset with how, or who, get to place the top Digg submissions, and it makes sense. However vocal the majority is, they are scared to tweak it for fears of top users, which equal revenue, pushed out of the loop.
Anyway, enough blabbing on. The attention span of users in these mainstream media sites are low.. - mlvassallo, on 10/11/2008, -0/+5Shame for both Meebo and Pandora. I'll continue to use them both until I get a 404.
- inactive, on 10/11/2008, -0/+4"Nothing screams "unprofessional" like flying away from a business meeting in a pink tube top."
Thanks for a good laugh there :) - hmunkey, on 10/11/2008, -0/+4Yahoo is actually making decent profits. The problem is, Yahoo's competition is making a lot more. MS and Google are the two kings of tech and internet, so it's no surprise that Yahoo is the little guy.
- Branchex, on 10/11/2008, -1/+5Tell them to form their own company that does a better job at social networking.
- expert01, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3I am shocked no one is talking about ask.com! Who else remembers when it was AskJEEVES.com?
- CobaltBlue, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3I remember when they first became ask.com and the radio commercials all sounded like they were saying go to ass.com. So they started spelling it.
- ThatGeek, on 10/11/2008, -1/+4It saddens me that pandora is going to go down. Its a great site.
And along that note, what about last.fm? I wouldnt be able to live without it, but it would seem like it would have the same royalty problems as pandora - redwallhp, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3Maybe because they have high bandwidth bills, and aren't monetizing well. You have crummy ads, and 70% of the users block them...
- crossmr, on 10/11/2008, -1/+4Just because digg isn't on that list doesn't mean its not trouble... the site is garbage, lists, 4chan, xkcd, politics..thats it..
- crossmr, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3Yeah well if half the sellers on Ebay weren't douchebags this wouldn't be a problem would it?
The people listing their location as: Hong Kong, USA to get around the north america search filter
The amount of people charging $40 handling for that USB key they listed for $1 and plan to ship it via the slowest method possible
The people who ship via an extremely expensive method only (FEDEX overnight) and then refuse to combine shipping
the people who hold feedback hostage
the people who flood search results with 9 million copies of the same thing (there is a quantity value for a reason)
etc
etc
etc
have burned any good faith for sellers as a whole. Ebay probably could have solved these issues in a better way, but frankly I have no sympathy for the greater population of sellers there. - deleo, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3Times are bad, and there probably is a web 2.0 bubble, but I think this list is way too pessimistic. Most/all of the companies he writes about will survive in some shape or form as long as they don't have too much overhead like Kozmos or Webvan did.
- sockpuppets, on 10/11/2008, -1/+4Actually my company is still around and doing well. 10 years later. :)
- wilf_brim, on 10/11/2008, -1/+4I agree Twitter should be on the list, but it is far from vital for most. It is important to a very few digerati living in Northern CA. The rest of us could give a crap. Maybe they could make money on a subscription model, otherwise they are toast.
- F9Phoenix, on 10/11/2008, -0/+3touché
- philal, on 10/11/2008, -0/+2I do see Second Life falling soon, a lot of businesses used it for innovative advertising, but still, it just doesn't have enough users.
I do hope that facebook falls apart though, although I am on it. I just dislike how it became a way to exhibit narcissistic behavior: Look at me, at my beautiful photo-shopped pictures, at the 700 friends I have, at the cool bands that I like, at the cool parties that I am attending...websites that promote such high-school behavior are not my cup of tea. Having said that, I do enjoy websites like Digg.com, because the Internet is so vast, and I have a difficult time coming across something that contains interesting information and analysis, but at the same time, I cannot get myself to check out websites at a daily basis (i dislike routine). So Digg.com actually solves a problem for me, but does MySpace and Facebook or silly Twitter solve a problem? Not really..I think the best of business models always have a solution to a problem, and sadly, most 2.0 websites do not offer solutions, but create problems (copyright infringements, personal privacy issues, accusations of using data-mining for intelligence purposes, etc.). -
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