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- snowbooch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+202MySpace is like Web 0.000000001
- pixelbasic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+127If MySpace is Web2.0...then I've got a copy of Microsoft Frontpage 1.0 I'd like to sell you.
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+99YouTube the most useful? I'd say Wikipedia is immensely more useful.
- reddevil3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+65"Digg: Acquisition/Valuation: Rumored to have been in negotiations with Fox Interactive/Newscorp, asking for $150 million"
Oh please God no.
Would be kinda funny since Digg's base is mostly left-wing. - skywake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+66seriously, how can you include myspace and not last.fm?
- zakangelle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+53How do you say "I'm turning down your billion dollar offer" with a straight face?
- MasterQ, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48can you imaging if myspace really bought digg? diggnation would be hosted by Tom and an error page...
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34You don't.
- KidVicious, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Myspace is more like the collective waste of the internet than Web 2.0.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+40Web 2.0 is more about the technology (PHP over Javascript, CSS over tabled designs), in my opinion.
I'd say that Youtube is the most sucessful start-up. It's the most useful, and it sold for much more. Myspace has more users and more pageviews, but Youtube has more time spent on a single page ("Evolution of Dance" is 6:00 long and has 46,000,000 views. No one spends 6:00 looking at a single MySpace page). Another point is that there are hundreds of thousands of blank MySpace pages, with Tom as the only friend, no profile picture, no friends. A lot of people use MySpace as a link spam site (for that reason, many people pay $1US for empty MySpace pages -- so they can fill it up with linkspam). Plus, Youtube is very popular. MySpace has a certain reputation of being pathetic... - Heembo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31MySpace is one of the largest rich media website in the history of the world. As ugly and crappy as it is, it's popularity is quite an accomplishment.
- mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -12/+41Yeah, because 2003 was like, almost before you were even born!
- rompom7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+30Yeah a lot of people think that Web 2.0 is all about style. That is simply not true. While MySpace looks crappy it does actually have some function. As much as I hate to admit it, MySpace deserves the title as the most successful Web 2.0 startup.
But still, MySpace blows.
P.S: For those that don't believe MySpace should be in the list, heres what wikipedia says about Web 2.0:
Web 2.0, a phrase coined by O'Reilly Media in 2004,[1] refers to a perceived second-generation of Web-based services—such as social networking sites, wikis, communication tools, and folksonomies—that emphasize online collaboration and sharing among users. O'Reilly Media used the phrase as a title for a series of conferences, and it has since become widely adopted.
MySpace fits into that definition. - yoshitomi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25...unless you're Mark Zuckerberg.
Then again, he's not done yet. - Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23"seriously, how can you include myspace and not last.fm?"
While I agree with you, im curious about the size of last.fm relative to the size of Myspace... - MrBlack08, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20digg hold out for a trillion! we're worth it! ...stinkin 150 million... what a joke.
- krazikamikaze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Why would I want to date a Web 2.0 startup?
- jellyfishnet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9In my view, web2.0 is about community driven websites. Moving the internet from a cold request - receive model to something slightly more friendly. That being said I think myspace is a web2.0 company. Albeit a lame one..
- fkr3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Web 2.0 has nothing to do with the technology, sorry. You can quote that as fact from now on. Now I'll tell you why it's a fact: the *current* standards for html, css and javascript are approaching their 10th birthdays.
All web 2.0 is is a shift in business models. It's not any specific site, it's definitely not any specific technology. - stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I think everyone confuses the definition of web 2.0. Some correlate web 2.0 to the definition of social communcation etc as rompom7 mentioned, hence Myspace. Others look at it more from a development standpoint. Things like full css/div structure, xhtml, some xmlhttprequest (ajax or ahah) etc. Some of those sites dont fully fit that defintion whatsoever. In a development point of view, Yahoo is very web 2.0. Yes I said Yahoo.
- Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Yay for meebo. Who doesn't need a web based messenger?
- ryanonfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7anyone got any ideas for web 3.0?
- jooaakim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6...and you showed right there that making money just isn't worth anything.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ hdtvdust
You should fix your ***** computer. - thespace2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8O'Reilly used the term to sell more books and conferences. The technology had already been there for years. Web 2.0 is more about the revolution that happened when the cash came in from all angles to anyone with a 'web 2.0 idea'.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Learn how to use the reply button before you tell me to stfu. It was a joke, calm the ***** down.
- dragazis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7In a few months, I wonder if Twitter would be on this list as it is growing ridiculously fast in users.
- ximiand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Wikipedia is not a start up
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Windows 2.0, maybe.
- adrenaline33, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Well since men that aren't in high school or college anymore look creepy on there and the kids that are on Digg in high school aren't likely to get girls anyways, I don't think many people on here understand the usefulness of Myspace. Nobody is arguing that it runs smoothly or is some kind of coding marvel, but for 90% of the kids in Myspace's target audience(16-24), Myspace is probably the only thing that gets them onto the internet. Anyone who loves computers and the internet should be grateful of that since it makes any projects they may partake much more profitable.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11And yet earns more money in one hour than your entire life is worth.
- sidyadav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/24/digg-does-the-acquisition-dance-with-news-corp/
- diffusio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3you know, if you created a website from the ground up, watched it grow, and then having someone else come in and buy it up from under you, you might have trouble selling it.
i don't know about you, but i might have trouble selling a successful website that i put a few years of my life into. as crazy as it sounds, facebook's owner could enjoy being the webmaster of his own website. he might *not* be in it just for the money. - nick111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Web 2.0 was just a catch phrase used to encompass a wave of sites that had various miscellanous things in common - like user-generated content etc. Thinking that there's going to be a sequal kindof attaches too much importance to the term Web 2.0. Although the implication is there, this isn't really accurately describing the underlieing patterns.
That said, if there is a next-big-wave, it's probably going to be in hardware - or more accurately, easy user-hackable hardware - possibly where individual consumers start controlling the design process, possibly where things other than phones/computers become web-enabled - when web-enabling something becomes about as complex as sewing buttons on a shirt. We're not there yet, but that's where it's probably going to go. - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Targeted Audience: 16 - 30 (teens, adults; technology-savvy)
More like....
Targeted Audience 9-14 (bastard children who don't know *****) - Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Yeah, Twitters got an interesting, new idea.... Its going to be interesting to see what happens there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6This list is about the most successful. Not the sites in which buyers overpaid the most for. MySpace is FAR more profitable than YouTube (which isn't at all still) is.
MySpace is valued in the FIVE BILLION dollar range right now. By EXPERTS. Not little chidlren on Digg who like to act like experts on everything. - Carsonauto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow. While the whole Web 2.0 idea is a joke, at least know what it means. Web 2.0 is about making the Internet more friendly, and social. While My space lacks technical marvels, it is very social, and very friendly. My space might as well BE the definition of Web 2.0.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Just because Fox News is right leaning (yes I know that's what your thinking), what does that matter? News Corp owns a ton of crap, right wing left wing doesn't matter. Fox networks show The Simpsons and Family Guy, both of those shows have made fun of Fox News, do you think Rupert Murdoc cares? Um no, the dude makes a ***** load of money and he'll make it anyway he can.
News Corp doesn't = Fox News, they = tons of crap that makes lots of money. You think for a second because most of the users and content on Digg is liberal means they won't acquire digg, then you would be wrong. - shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@hd
Sounds like an issue on your end, rather than Digg's. I've logged into digg from multiple PCs and multiple connections with no such problems. - xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1^SPAM
- krinthekuz, on 09/16/2008, -0/+1there are plenty of coders who use php without javascript. javascript is client side only, and thus the validation is unreliable. anyone who goes solely for js validation is a retard waiting for a dbi exploit. since a lot of programmers are hard pressed for time and deliverables, js validation (for server optimization) is often skimped on (or the morons only go for js validation instead of php validation).
and anyone relying on js for any big functions is just a moron due to client side differences. there are some nice things about it, but who really has the time to write code for 8 different browsers? - b05q, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1myspace is just a poorly done rip off of what mp3.com did back in the 90s, minus the video since nobody had broadband. myspace was originally meant primarily for musicians, not as a social place (just like mp3.com).
i don't really understand the common link between netvibes (no real community, just an aggregation tool), wikipedia (a non-profit encyclopedia), and myspace (MTV's TRL online, more or less). - shanmac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Wikipedia is a great site, but I wouldn't call it Web 2.0
- rarson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My problem isn't with MySpace being on the list, my problem is with that "most successful" part.
First of all, different people have different measures of success. However, the easy choice would be the very monetary values listed in the article that shows how much the companies are worth, essentially, by showing the amounts that these things were actually purchased for. And by that measure, MySpace isn't number 1 (number 2, Youtube, sold for more than twice Youtube). Hell, it's not even number two.
What worries me is that these huge media companies are throwing money at our culturally-developed platforms to take them and assimilate them into their own. What will Digg be like once a major media company has taken it over? Surely it'll erode the unbiased nature of letting the users choose the news they read. - brightmarc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1By the way, I use http://www.savetube.com to save youtube videos.
- PolarJammy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@ PixelBasic
http://web.archive.org/web/19961022175331/http://www.microsoft.com/
..Yep, seems about right. - Naptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0People who only use their own desktop/laptop do not need a web based messenger.
The web based messenger caters to college students in a lab or when you are on a locked down computer (non-admin rights).
Meebo is great if you are in an environment that you do not have the stand alone app installed. - UO07, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1different websites interact and socialize for the user? :/
I duno. - redwallhp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2WTH? *MySpace*?!! That craptastic site should be disqualified for the list (quick, make up an excuse). How the heck is that site Web 2.0? Every single freakin' page is so Web -1.0. The whole idea is stupid too, and I'm tired of being inundated by MySpace by people on the computers at the local library.
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