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- VladDrac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A lot of people are perplexed at why broadband sucks in the US. Look who's primarily behind broadband over here: Phone companies and cable companies.
Let's start with phone companies. Does it really benefit phone companies to have great and cheap bandwidth? Not when everyone switches over to Voip killing their high profit long distance service. Not to mention that businesses pay for EVERY call they make. If broadband was great and cheap, the phone companies would disappear.
Let's move on to cable companies. Pretty soon you'll be able to watch movies via broadband. E.g., Netflix is about to offer movies. In a few years you'll probably be able to watch any movie and any TV you want with a simple clicks. Does this benefit cable companies? Nope. Because they make tons of money, nearly all their money, selling premium movie channels and content via pay-per-view. In other words, if broadband was great and cheap, they'd also be out of business.
Thus, the ONLY way we're going to get real broadband in the US is by wrestling control of it from the current status quo. That's why I'm really excited about broadband over power lines. The power companies have nothing to lose with broadband. - thecapitalizt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1okay lets remember something: POPULATION DENSITY. Its MUCH easier to wire up japan because its a smaller country, and the population density is greater. Thus, it takes less fibre to connect everyone.
Japan also has an easier time doing this, because they don't have as established a wired telecom infrastructure as we did, they went to cellular quickly because it was cheaper than landlines. We already have the wires, and its more cost-effective to use what we already have than to re-wire everything. But that doesn't mean that its impossible to get high speeds with existing tech. Example: Cablevision is going to soon be rolling out 80 megabit connections all over the NYC metro area, over preexisting coax.
Also, Verizon is running FiOS in some areas, esp. new housing developments, where the cost of running fiber isn't as expensive as everywhere else.
Plus, lets not forget that many times you're limited by other sites' upload speeds. Currently, if I get a faster service, it won't help me all that much because I can download about a megabyte of data a second, max, but websites at most put out 200-300 kb/sec. The only thing which would really take advantage of that is P2P (which my ISP thoughtfully caps at a secret limit, which they won't tell you.) - rapidisimo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow...
US is really lagging behind...
I wonder why if it's like... the US you know...
I'm changing from Verizon DSL 1.5Mbps/398kbps $29.95
to Cablevision's Cable 10Mbps/1Mbps $29.95 after a year turns to ~$45. - Uberhampster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"For those of you still on lousy 46Mbps ADSL connections"
I wish I had a lousy 46Mbps ADSL connection... - antiwmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In japan you can get 1Gbps connection for around US$80-150/m
- rapidisimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"and this is news? way to go diggers. We really didnt know this one. [/sarcasm]
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How about you read what Digg is about?
"Digg is a technology news website that combines social bookmarking..."
Does it say... it provides the latest news...
Get your bitching ass out of here... - Flogin_Molly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have 7MB down ?MB up for $45 includes premium cable for TV
(comcast)
I would pay $200 a month for 1GB of down speed if it was needed
but the inter-web does not not even have use for 100MB at least for
privet use i dont need 1GB down unless i have a multi-multi terabyte
server - Amplix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0gaaah.. Why not meee!? =(
- M4tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0typo = 9mbps = 90mbps and 1mbps= 10mbps....my bad.
- M4tt3r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0WOW, some of you are truly getting ripped off. :(
Currently in Arizona Cox Communication has 9000KB/s and 1000KB/s or translated roughly 9mbps / 1mbps, and this for $50
So what's the big deal? This is extremely old news, it's only 100mbps, which is megabits, not megabytes. 8 bits=1byte.
FIOS, is already out in the US, and that's 15/2 and 30/5. And the 12/2 is $50/month and the 30/5 is $100.
Am I not seeing something, that makes this a good story? - rawbite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah man, I have 512/512 ONLY for 100 USD per month! Viva Romania! :(
- Mofo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Someday it will grace the US, who has the fastest net? I heard South Korea has the fastest internet for the cheapest since their gov subsidized its development and installation.
- racarusotheoreo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Dude. I live in Chattanooga, Tennessee, right outside Nashville.
No DSL. No cable. Sucky satellite broadband that cuts out when someone sneezes. And here is Japan with 100MBs downstream. This is insanity. - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Man I’d kill for even 256K! I’m stuck with dial-up here. There is absolutely no broadband of any kind out here. My download speeds are at a blazing 49K and upload is around 29K.
- crash331, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Im about 40 miles from Chattanooga and Bellsouth has DSL. I think once you hit Dalton and the mountain areas, it switched to Alltel, though.
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You should all consider yourselves lucky.
I'm in Australia and while we're one of the 'big developed countries' in the world, in the capital cities they have only recently (i.e. this year) introduced ADSL2+ (i.e. above 1.5mbps). The max speed available I think is about 8-12mbps - though of course is very expensive and has a very low download limit like 20GB or so.
... but it gets worse, I live 4 hours south of Sydney in an area classified as Regional2 - we've had broadband for about 4 or so year (started with 256k, currently on 512k)... the maximum speed available where I am is only 1.5mbps and the cheapest deal I've found on this is AUD$70 per month with a 20GB download cap (which reduces the speed to 64k when reached).
I don't think even our major cities are running on fibre optics yet - still the good ole copper system :)
... if I can get a 5mbps connection I would be stoked! - cainrok, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its quite depressing to think that we(US) are that far behind albeit partly because of the country's size. But they don't even have it in some areas which is even worse. That doesn't explain why the UK doesn't have a better connection though. Whats up UK and most of Europe?
- moose_diggs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ummmmm try living here in Virginia...Verizon has the crummiest copper lines in my region and they refuse to upgrade them. "If you are getting good phone service..thats all that matters to us" I am no more than 2500 feet from the closest DSL subscriber yet all i have access to is a 28.8 dialup connection..of which my DL speeds are @ 1K/s.. I'm seriously considering using a mobile phone as my modem at least on the nights and weekends. Anyone have experience using one please contact me moose1@gmail.com
- jon_k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm paying over $100 monthly for my 6 Mbit down (ok) and 768kbit up (terrible). I could be paying less but the local cable monopoly blocks ports and has terrible customer service. I dumped cable completely and just download the very few shows I watch. Imagine the BitTorrent speeds you could get with a symmetric 100 Mbps connection! I find it hard to believe you can really upload at anything close to 100 Mbps for a flat monthly fee. Surely they cap it. Can somebody with one of these lines confirm that it is possible to upload that fast (or not)? Are there caps to prevent sustained use?"
No I'm currently in Japan as my work relocated me, and I've got this service. It's straight capped at 100Mbps -- meaning 100Mbps is your highest up and download speed. So yes, you can upload at 100Mbps -- but no faster than this. There aren't any caps that throttle you down if you sustain this speed (at least, over a week period of seeding a bunch of bit torrents, I haven't seen a throttle on the speed)
It's really nice, and I've been considering doing some pay-hosting from my house. I've been using a DYNDNS service they have here ( http://www.atmarkit.co.jp )
It is certainly better than what I got back home in the US (50/m for 128kup 1.2mbit down if I am lucky!) - teydus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Verizon charges me $50 a month for a 512k connection. I'm two blocks away from Newegg, not out in the middle of nowhere either.
- catullus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Optic Fibre" - just curious, is that what the brits are calling "Fiber Optic" lines?
- CaptSnuffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the worst part about broadband is the amount of capping they do for uploads, the companies were less strict originally but a lot of pressure from the RIAA is causing them to enforce their rules about capping more and to lower the threshold that gets someone capped
- patientx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In Turkey , I'm paying ~80$ for 512/256 ADSL.There is also 1024k and 2048k available.And nowadays you can reach ADSL everywhere but some rural areas like villages etc.
- digit9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In Shanghai China I am paying $24USD/mo for 10Mbs. 2 years ago I was paying $40 for Roadrunnner at 10Mb.
In Shanghai I had to pay for a full year up front and renew it yearly.
My satelite cable service, which is bootlegged, runs me about $10USD a month. - dukem72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In Costa Rica the government agency in charge of ripping you off, charges for ADSL by the way newly introduced:
64 / 32 $24.86
128 / 64 $28.25
256 / 128 $46.32
512 / 128 $72.32
1024 / 256 $98.31
2048 / 256 $204.53
4096/512 $327.70
+ a deposit in the range of $22.00 to $290.00
+ an installation fee of $32.00 give or take
Dang motherflowers! I love my home but hate the service ;-)
Thanks RCN for 10Mbps at like $45 - skooby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Damn! I've got 1500/256 connection for AUS$59.95 a month and the exchange nearest me isn't on the list for getting an upgrade in the near future. You think the US are behind. Australia has only just in the last year upgraded to DSL2 with speeds of 12000/1000..
- quaispalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0VladDrac,
However, since the cable companies have just recently started offering Phone TV and Internet packages. Also remember that by law in the US, phone companies have to share their phone lines with other companies, while cable has no such rule.
What this all boils down to is: the phone companies are feeling *realllly* threatened by the Cable companies. And since they can't have a monopoly on the phone line that goes into your house and can't require the cable companies to share that line into your house, they are starting to feel like they can only compete by doing something drastic, namely: putting a new line into your house that isn't cable or a phone line... Fiber!
This is exactly what Verizon is doing right now; hopefully it'll be everywhere in the US in a few years.
Meanwhile, here in NYC, I haven't paid for Internet in forever, thanks to the couple million open WiFi's all over the city. You have to love density! :-) - BrianVII, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here in NJ they offer 100mbps but at a very high price... but the 55mbps is 90 USD Eventrually it will continue to be extended but Intel is working on WImax that is 100mbps and its WIRELESS so i cant wait for that. This comparison is stupid because the US consists of states the size of the cotunries they are talking about... Its hard to wire a cotunry when states themselves have different laws and setups. The NE US that has this type of internet but at a very expensive price.
- VladDrac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0quaispalm, you're entire argument is based on the premise that phone providers have to share their lines. That is no longer true as they do NOT have to share their lines for broadband. And lastly, because they don't have to share their DSL lines, there is no incentive to build fiber lines.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050811.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Verizon charges me $50 a month for a 512k connection. I'm two blocks away from Newegg, not out in the middle of nowhere either.
they charge 30$ a month for a retarded 300 kbps connection. no they have a "fiber obtic service"
for 35$ a month 2 mps up and down. for 45$ a month 15 mbps up and 2mps up. gay,,, i want upload speed for bittorrent. :( - fusen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm on 8Mbit in the UK for £29.99. Not that bad really
- bobetr, on 11/27/2008, -0/+0thats the same price as my 8mbps cable
- matt.rubin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0above 1gbps is too much cause you still need a gigabit ethernet card for 1gbps. think ppl
I want a lousy 46MBps connection - ghostshell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Me Want, enough said.
- trueshadow21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i have a 768/768 and I'm getting charged $50 bucks a month with a 10 GB download/upload max, i wish i lived in japan, 100 mps down for 50
- SuperRob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, but you get to pay $30 for a quart of milk, so it evens out. ;)
- sajb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0In the town where I live (in Sweden), I currently pay US$25 for 10Mbit up/down ethernet, but I could also get 24/8 ADSL or 8/1 cable for between $25 and $35 per month. Not many providers want to sell you static ip though, 10/10 eth with static ip at home would cost me about $50.
- sajb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yep, that's about right for regular 'ol polar bear milk :P
- narunet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well in two years me and a friend are going to live in Japan for a while so, I can't ***** wait.
- cobra1122, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0guys we as teh us have the capabilltitly to unlease a massive 100mps down adn up but we dont why you ask because major companies IE verizion want to cahge us for 30mps for 200$us tehn 1 year later realse the 50 for 200 tehn bit by bit incrase it to maintain profits if they wanted to they could pop out with nice 100bit connections at a deacnt price but there not going to cuz tehn they would lose money check out http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/channels/fios/root/package.asp
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0100Mb? That's it?
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0That's a lotta porn.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0you could host serious Hentai with that
lol - ArchAngel21x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0That does it. I am moving to Japan. The Internet connections are better, and the women are better looking.
- danio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i gots teh 5 mbit down & 800k up for 50 bucks CAD rogers cable
- reaver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Thats insane.
- BugMeNot2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm getting like, what, 1.5mbps connection for $25 a month.
And a 100mbps connection in Japan is only twice as much. - Tang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0My 46 Mbps connection is more than adequate. Fiber is cool but there seems to very few sites, if any, that could actually serve up data that fast.
- spyhunter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm paying over $100 monthly for my 6 Mbit down (ok) and 768kbit up (terrible). I could be paying less but the local cable monopoly blocks ports and has terrible customer service. I dumped cable completely and just download the very few shows I watch. Imagine the BitTorrent speeds you could get with a symmetric 100 Mbps connection! I find it hard to believe you can really upload at anything close to 100 Mbps for a flat monthly fee. Surely they cap it. Can somebody with one of these lines confirm that it is possible to upload that fast (or not)? Are there caps to prevent sustained use?
- Jeffrey903, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I have 15Mb down and 2Mb up for $50 (Verizon FIOS). Still really slow compared to Japan.
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