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- amartins02, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17This was copied from my post here:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=52524&t=231957
enjoy! - 12340987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Wow, this digg actually affects ME.
And it's all true, inkjet manufacturers go to great lengths to rip people off, there's a program called "SSC service utility" for you epson owners, that want to exract the most out of your cartridges. - rhettnyedotorg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9From the site: http://www.epsonsettlement.com/
"What is this lawsuit about?
The Settlement resolves a class action lawsuit filed in California and other state courts. Plaintiffs assert claims against Epson America, Inc. (%u201CEAI%u201D) based on various legal theories, including breach of contract, breach of implied warranties, unjust enrichment, fraudulent concealment, violations of California Business and Professions Code Sections17200, et seq., and violations of the California Consumers Legal Remedies Act, California Civil Code Sections 1750, et seq., relating to the performance and other characteristics of Epson inkjet printer cartridges. Among other things, Plaintiffs allege that Epson inkjet printers and inkjet cartridges indicate that cartridges are %u201Cempty%u201D and suspend printer function, even though substantial ink remains. EAI has denied and continues to deny the claims and any wrongdoing, but has decided to settle to avoid the cost and inconvenience of litigation. The Court has not issued any rulings about the validity of the claims. "
I wonder when us Canucks are going to get some of this action? - dizzyd_23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Here's the link directly to the cliam form:
http://www.epsonsettlement.com/pdfs/ClaimForm.pdf - jessecollins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Oakes
Your an idiot.
I do know why they are being sued. It is because Epson printers tells you that you are out of ink when there is still ink left. Furthermore, it won't let you print anything until you put in a new ink cartridge. This really stinks when you are out of black ink and you want to print out text in blue (or some other color). - Circuit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Shame this is only for the US :(
- rhettnyedotorg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The epsons (and canons) use a little chip that attempts to measure how much ink is left in the cartridge.
Because epsons have 'ink tank' cartridges, and printer head unit is inside the printer itself, it's important to avoid running the printer when it's dry. HP and Lexmark for the most part use 'print head cartridges' with the electronics and actual print-head right on the cartridge, which is eventually disposed and replaced. Epsons and Canons use just ink tanks, this chip technology seems to be the weakest in the industry. I think Canon has a prism in their cartridges, and when the cartridge is close to empty, light can get in to the empty cartridge and though the prism ink level measuring system.
you can hack the ink level on epson chips with 'chip resetters'
these are required after refilling the cartridge, but also come in handy when you need to get a couple more pages out and your printer refuses to cooperate based on being 'out of ink.' dangerous though because running the printer when it's empty can be really bad for it (the print head in the printer is the weakest link)
another attribute to ink tank cartirdges is that they have a large opening which tends to dry out when exposed (ie. when the cartirdge is removed)
i use island ink-jet they're one of the largest refilling franchises. www.islandinkjet.com - davidjunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6YEAH!@# My neighbor gave me a Stylus C86 printer, it worked fine until ONE OF THE COLOR CARTRIDGES RAN OUT! It's still got 3/4 black ink left, which is useful for printing documents. Well, the printer now refuses to function without ink in the color carts even if I tell it to just print in black!
Epson can shove it. That printer is now sitting in the corner collecting dust while I use an old HP printer that isn't trying to rape me. - davidjunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What gets me is, how Epson could deny the claims! It's so painfully in-your-face when one ink cartridge runs out and it just totally refuses to function.
- kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Wanted to say thanks, too, for sharing the information on the epson program. Looks like it'll be very helpful.
- modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Digg may have just made me $25 richer.
- flashdude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4 I have a epson stylus c82, nicest printer I ever had, perfect pictures fast text, but yes I had the same half empty cartridge ***** going on. Then I let it sit a few weeks (with ink in it) and the ink pump dryed up, (WITH INK IN IT)I tryed running water threw it like it says online to do, and this is a very common problem with these printers.
So come on my Canadian geek brothers lets post our serial numbers so epson pays threw the nose!!
Here's mine ELVE281834
don't forget stylus c82 - flashdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Post your serial number maybe someone else can us it.
- al28p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have a cx6600, but stupid rule says no canadians.
- goodnewsevery1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually ink jet printers tend to blow not suck,
- number8888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have the Stylus Color 600 and Stylus Color 777. Too bad this lawsuits doesn't apply to Canadians. I do agree that they used up ink fast and man those cartridges were expensive.
- petro62, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Rock on I qualify. I got an Epson Stylus C60. I am tired of it. The ink cartridges are really high and then of course the same probs you all explain.
- sk545, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3how do you tell when you bought it? I have a few old epson 880 and 888. There is a sticker in the back that has the "Production code". Any way to decipher it so we can find out when it was manufactured?
- therernospoons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dang, if only I hadn't "officespaced" mine and chunked it to the curb...that and that deskjet.
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Woohoo, I have two printers. :)
- cubbieco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Form asks for month and year. I'm going to give it my best guess and hope for the best. Yes it's been around 3 years or so.
If the serial number is valid then there probably won't be any problems.
BTW - This really should have linked to http://www.epsonsettlement.com instead of some stupid deal site. - amartins02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It's not a scam. I got a letter in the mail and posted it online at slickdeals.net. It is a class action lawsuit. I have my $45 dollar code already because my printer was already registered.
- thesbian12, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4methinks thou art unskilled in the ways of literacy. In order to "collect" you must have bought a qualifying Epson printer. According to what I understand about legal theory, buying one of the qualifying printers means you fell for or were defrauded in a way you didn't immediately understand by an Epson scheme to skim money on printer cartridges. Thusly, you are entitled to some bling if you bought some of their crappy stuff.
I'm just waiting for the lawsuit about entitling me to money for buying one of their printers and then realizing it's a huge POS. - sharedferret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Anyone else notice that the class action suit's cutoff date is in May? So essentially you could find an Epson printer for under $40 somewhere, then reap the benefits.
- ogletree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So what actually happend is that lawyers got a lot of money. Epson got to send out coupons to a service none of us knew about or were using. I don't see how this hurt Epson. Very few people that bought these will actually fill out this form. So they just got some cheap advertising for their ink store.
- joxrox22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Epson printers are ink hogs. No more Epson for me. Hello Canon!
- LiquidPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I own one of the printers listed there, so I'll probably sign up for this.
However, this looks an awful lot like the Nintendo lawsuit from years ago. I didn't even know about the E-Store and looking at the prices there, you ultimately end up spending money if you expect to use up the entire E-store coupon. Exactly what Nintendo did by offering $5 coupons towards any SNES game. They knew that even knocking $X off, the customer is still going to have to spend money. Since I'm going to be spending money regardless of what I do, I think I'll opt for the $25 check and $20 coupon to offset the cost of the ink cartridges I need, which ironically, is $14 cheaper for the ink multi-pack, *after* I calculate in the cost of shipping. - hypercube33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had an epson 640. When you'd use it once a week or so, it'd start to streak all over your paper, and you'd have to clean the heads. Doing this dumps ink all over the inside of the printer (literally, all over) and then you'd get ink spots on anything you'd print.
And what'd I do? I went out and got a Cannon i850, and I'm in love with it. Prints fast, cheaper ink, higher quality all around. And it turns itself on and off, too! - SoulMaster2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It has to be from Epson's site, you get $45 of credit for their online store
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So now you know how the system works. Corporations hardly ever have actual judgements against them, they merely settle on terms that usually serve them better than no judgement at all. It'd be like McDonalds having to give everyone a coupon for a free small fries. Oh, while you're here, how about a Big Mac and a shake? That'll be $6.50, please drive around.
- hypercube33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Um, my Cannon i850 has a print head cartridge! What gives?
- verstohlen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have an Epson C60 and I ran out of color ink once, but had plenty of black ink. I wanted to print out some black and white documents but the damn thing wouldn't let me until I replaced the color cartridge. Grrrrr.
- kewldude606, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hmmm...
I won an Epson printer and it is asking me where I purchased it. On the FAQ it says "recieved" an epson printer. I dunno. - geekymikey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I can't print the claim form. I'm "out" of color ink. Damn you Epson.
- TWiThead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just last week, I received a telephone call from my grandmother. She needed to print some important documents, but her Epson printer (one of the ones from the list) had run out of ink. In retrospect, I suppose that this might not have been true.
I replaced her cartridges with spongeless, auto-reset units from a third party. The kit (complete with enough ink to fill the cartridges six times) cost only slightly more than the outrageously high amount that one would pay for a single set of official Epson replacements. My grandmother was pleased, and she'll be even more pleased when she learns that she's entitled to a $25 cheque. :-) - striker1211, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have an epson 740, it works great for me. I buy ink carts for 10 bucks a 5-pack off ebay (with shipping). Not bad at all. However i would like a check for 20... so here i am printing off the very form on a epson printer.
- starbird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So, 2 printers = $90?
- Alphabet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4the guy is a spammer, just look at his linked stories. All he does grabs information from other sites, posts it on his, and then spams digg with it.
I'm going to label this as spam. it'll be funny when digg auto-bans his website from being submitted. - hwood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The print quality was great but I got tired of reprogramming the print heads whenever I refilled the ink.
I will never recommend Epson printers to anyone.
I got fed up with mine and gave it away last week. I guess I'll have to ask for the serial number. - goodnewsevery1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Go here to file online: http://www.epsonstore.com/benefitsreg
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm just gonna go find some old printers I can find around, and start claiming the checks, and not some dinky coupon, that just brings in revenue for Epson.
- spyres, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'll take advantage of this because my epson (and I think most epson inkjets) are pure unadulterated crap.
- cubbieco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Class action settlements are usually better than things like manufacturers rebates because they are administered by a third party (lawyers and who they hire) who is going to get their money no matter what. They have no incentive to screw you like rebates do.
You should be fine. - readme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just registered at Epson. Anyone know when will I receive the estore code?
BTW this is true justice. There were a couple of times I was held hostage by this printer (CX6400) refusing to print because one of the carts was dry. I will use the $$$ for another brand. - zoxed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+120:43 CEST and http://www.epsonsettlement.com/Printers.htm has been Slashdotted^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H this message "www.epsonsettlement.com Temporarily Unavailable This account has surpassed its bandwidth allocation at the present time." Well it probably does not affect us Europeans anyway :-(
- Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had two printers that fall under it in that time. Too bad they have long been tossed because of various reasons.
- jbus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is good... At least Epson will suffer a little for all the crap people put up with when dealing with their printers.
I have had nothing but problems (ink related) with my Epson CX4600. It will definitely be my last Epson printer. I will definitely take the $25 and spend it elsewhere. - CapnCornflake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The problem with that is half a dozen people are going to claim that as their printer, and nobody will get it.
- weiran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anything in the pipeline for UK people?
- luma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is great! I have an Epson R800, and while it is a fantastic printer (especially the direct print on CD/DVDs), it chews through ink like crazy, and for $15 a pop * 8 ink cartridges, it can get expensive quickly.
The class action concerns the fact that their printer drivers will detect the amount of ink left, and refuse to print if any of the ink carts are empty. Of course, it does this before the ink cart actually runs out. Some crafty russians have figured out a way to reset the cart chips via software. Check out the SSC Service Utility here: http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml
If you print a lot of color, you can also invest in a continuous inking system and buy the individual inks in bulk, saving somewhere like 90% off Epson's price. Check out some systems here: http://atlascopy.com/cfs/index.htm
One last thing - the Epson registration link in the article doesn't work. Try your luck here: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/formgen/templates/nobox_nofooter_template.jsp?pid=3552 -
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