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- borez, on 07/07/2009, -2/+36Universe 1.0? You're presuming that there's only been two.
- Catsmeat, on 07/07/2009, -1/+29"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more inexplicable.
...There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
- Douglas Adams - drmobutu, on 07/07/2009, -5/+23Legend has it, that Universe 1.0 had a foosball table, free dry-cleaning, and day care...
- JasonCox, on 07/07/2009, -4/+20On the first day, God created Universe 1.0, and it was good, but it was also slow and lacked proper AJAX support so God deleted it created Universe 2.0, which he created before the dawn of the Great Firefox, so it was only IE6-compatible.
- sexybobo, on 07/07/2009, -4/+20Univers 1.0 was destroyed because some one knew a question that answered 42.
- CarStan, on 07/07/2009, -0/+14Dark Matter is the Aether of modern science
- Tippmann5150, on 07/07/2009, -5/+18Impossible, the earth was created 6000 years ago.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+13Interesting article indeed, it made me think and ponder and left me wondering why I don't know enough about such topics. Dugg for increasing my intellect!
- elijahyossie, on 07/07/2009, -1/+13that's a very interesting article. Dark matter is quite hard to get my head round in the first place, though! I find it easier to understand intellectually than to really grasp it.
- sedatedbylife, on 07/07/2009, -2/+14Dugg for recognition of our intergalactic hamster overlords.
- FearlessFreep, on 07/07/2009, -1/+12Amazing how almost any astro-physics topic has an appropriate Hitchhikers quote
- borez, on 07/07/2009, -3/+13It's only theory. For all we know, we may only be here for the amusement of a bunch of hyper intellectual hamsters.
- slapded, on 07/07/2009, -5/+13Yes, because Steve Jobs wanted a faster universe.
With video and cut and paste - blitzwing85, on 07/07/2009, -1/+9Those were betas.
- cquilliam, on 07/07/2009, -1/+9Wow, one day you had sex, you must be proud.
- Jektal, on 07/07/2009, -1/+9Almost ANY topic has an appropriate Hitchhiker's quote.
- scoot2006, on 07/07/2009, -0/+7We're all waiting for your theory...
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+7Why is it that most people who try to rip science apart seem to have no regard for basic spelling and punctuation? It's almost as if you can read the stupid.
- demitio, on 07/07/2009, -2/+9There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another which states that this has already happened. - Cannonballkid, on 07/07/2009, -0/+6Thanks to silly science and men with mustaches we have spell check. Dame them all to hell!!!
- 7m7uf, on 07/07/2009, -1/+7Universe 2.0 has a lot of shiny things and/or uses JavaScript extensively depending on who you ask.
- atroxodisse, on 07/07/2009, -1/+7Dark Matter is scientist's secret word for "matter in the universe we can't account for yet". To postulate that it's responsible for blowing up the universe is science fiction at this point. They have no idea if dark matter even exists yet.
- insanebrain, on 07/07/2009, -2/+8Little fish to grandpa fish :"grandpa... this so called 'water' you keep speaking about.. what is it ?"
- ldailey06, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Demonizing those that disagree with you sounds pretty similar to religion to me.
- theodenking, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5Nah if this is universe 2.0 how come hardly any stars have 1px drop shadows?
- hakkola, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5They're not talking like this happened in an earlier universe before the big bang that sprang this one.
"Three hundred million years after the start of the universe, things had finally cooled down enough to form hydrogen atoms out of all the protons and electrons that were zipping around - only to have them all ripped up again around the one billion year mark."
You guys make it sound like they're talking about a different universe. - inactive, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5the question isn't whether the universe is infinite, it's whether this is the only universe. It has a beginning, and therefore will likely have an end, but before that who knows?
- borez, on 07/07/2009, -2/+7@sedatedbylife: Shush... nobody else is supposed to know, I dropped that comment as reverse psychology.
- shadowsincircle, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5It's not hamsters. It's mice. Our planet is just one big biological computer for the mice.
- linksus, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5if you watch the video, It pretty much prooves that dark matter is there due to the optical lensing. Even if it isnt what they currently think dark matter is. It could be something else. either way. once they find it, they will call it dark matter.
So that is what it is. - Drybones01, on 07/07/2009, -0/+5No scientist I know goes out of their way to defend dark matter. It isn't defined. We observe things happening in the universe that should be impossible according to our current understanding, but Newton's work explained reality so well that we couldn't throw his equations out just becuase there were some holes, so we invented aether. Now einstien has been able to explain many of those holes and we know aether was an incorrect theroy. So becuase relativity says we don't have enough observible matter in the universe to account for all the things we see in reality, we can (for now) conclude there must be something we can't see becuase relativity explains everything else in reality so perfrecly.
The properties of dark matter can be observed by looking at the unexplained properties of obersivble matter. That's why we think it acts as its own anti particle as stated in the article. But this still means we know nothing about what it is and it's quite possilbe it doens't exist. There could easily be another Newton or antoher Einstien to refine the equations so they better represnt reality and dark matter could go the same route as aether. Or there really could be something out there we can't see.
Science "is made up", relativity came from a patent clerks daydream for crying out load, but his eqations are why our gps satilites can tell you where your car is (as well as some other less important things...). Science is made up to explain reality and if it doesn't we refine it and test it until it makes observable predicitons (which the dark matter theroy does btw). If it still doesn't we throw it out and start over.
ps most scientific research is still privately funded so don't be too worried about your tax dollars but the amount that does go to science is money well spent compared some other things our taxes get used for. - dragossh, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4At least Dark Matter and the God Particle are proven to exist instead of God and it's proph... oh, nevermind.
- rilus, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4Oh I see... since zincroth doesn't see any point to this science, we better stop it. Makes sense. *sigh*
- Laughto, on 07/07/2009, -2/+6"Universe 1.0". What a dull way to put it.
- kufu91, on 07/07/2009, -0/+4money for science doesn't just go into a pit.
while the direct results may not have much of an impact on general people, it creates technology in its wake that has an enormous effect. research in the theory of relativity and the space race have created the technology for the gps and communication satellites, research in the theory of evolution has allowed us to fight the causes of diseases rather than the symptoms (also pokemon!).
not only that but science can be a great provider of jobs. this past year i had an internship at a company in my own hometown that made vacuum chambers for nasa and other groups. Neither that entire company nor the hundreds of companies that i looked at in their product manuals would be financially stable without scientific research. - zeusthemoose, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Space is neither infinite or timeless. However, a sequence of countable discrete sets can be a subset of an infinite set. This is why you can have a universe within a universe and make sense of the seemingly insensible nature of space.
- Jektal, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3Sure, but who's to say that the universe, as it currently stands, doesn't encompass that infinite time and space? We've barely left our own solar system, we're not in much of a position to make judgments about the scope of the universe.
- norman619, on 07/07/2009, -8/+11This is a bit like asking "Did pixie farts destroy Universe 1.0?" Dark Matter is a theoretical construct created to try and fill in the holes in the popular standard model. What we have observed of the universe can and has been explained w/o pulling things like Dark Matter out of thin air. These scientists refuse to accept the possibility that their view of the universe is incorrect. In that respect they have stopped being scientists and are becoming deciples of some religion.
- Bondheli, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4What was that episode of tng called?
- Kajman, on 07/07/2009, -0/+3I don't think you know how science works...
step 1: make observation
step 2: create hypothesis on observation
step 3: run tests on hypothesis
step 4: ???
...
Dark matter isn't pulled out of thin air it is a hypothesis created based on the observation that there is unseen mass inflicting gravity on the universe, And tests have shown that it exists... so until you can prove otherwise with real evidence that it doesn't exist, I think I'm going to take their word over yours. - Volath, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4Who care's? Just watch all of the episodes again. It's worth it.
- Kishoba, on 07/07/2009, -3/+6Have you ever stood and stared at it? Marveled at its beauty, its genius? Billions of people just living out their lives, oblivious. Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered? Where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you, it really became our civilization, which is, of course, what this is all about: Evolution, Morpheus, evolution. Like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time.
- KrayzieKyd, on 07/07/2009, -1/+4buried for the "douchebag" tag.
- KrayzieKyd, on 07/07/2009, -2/+4not really, we could be on universe 5.0. the topic is just that 1.0 was destroyed in this manner. everything between could have been because of republicans.
- hutch619, on 07/07/2009, -2/+4Universe 1.0? Come on now. Everyone knows it takes 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years before getting out of "beta".
http://digg.com/tech_news/Official_Google_Blog_Goo ... - KrayzieKyd, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2what a dull way to comment
- norman619, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2A lot of it is theory until we can go out there and do some testing and verification. The problem is when other scientists are rediculed for daring to question the accpeted theories. Even when the science behind those alternative theories is sound. The goal of science is understanding and demonstartion of that understanding is making accurate predictions based on that understanding. Normally when your prediction is wrong in science you throw out the theory and look for a more suitable one. This hasn't been happening when it comes to the current standard model.
- hutch619, on 07/07/2009, -0/+2Just for clarifications sake - am I getting burried here because people aren't getting the reference to Google (1 followed by 100 zeros) or is it that I'm trying too hard?
- inactive, on 07/09/2009, -0/+2123, there's no shame in therapy.
- inactive, on 07/07/2009, -1/+3kind of like your attitude :(
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