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- poidh, on 06/10/2008, -6/+34I refuse to believe that climate change has anything to do with the sun, because otherwise it will be difficult for me to blame absolutely everything on the evil Neo-Con conspiracy controlled by AIPAC, etc. Or something.
- doctechnical, on 06/10/2008, -1/+23"In the past, they observed that the sun once went 50 years without producing sunspots. That period coincided with a little ice age on Earth that lasted from 1650 to 1700."
Yipes. - atmenterprises, on 06/10/2008, -7/+28Resulting in a cooling planet. Funny how the sun has an impact on global warming.
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/army-vs-glob ... - Necoras, on 06/10/2008, -1/+22The opposite actually. Fewer sunspots are correlated with a decrease in solar output. That's actually mentioned in the article if you had read it.
- jerwin, on 06/10/2008, -10/+28You mean (gasp) that global warming MIGHT be caused by natural occurrences?????????
No frigging way! Al Gore made a movie... - biogears, on 06/10/2008, -12/+28And if you think global WARMING is bad, just try global COOLING.
Crop failures, MASS starvation, 1 mile of ice down to Kansas.
Forget the sinking of a small island in the Pacific (it wasn't due to warming anyway - scam for the uninformed).
Real cooling could come close to wiping out humans.
I'll take warming ANY day.
Anyway, this global warming thing is going the way of the ozone hole, so the masses need
a new hysteria. ""The Sun Spot Deficit!!!"" Run for your lives!!
Cause: Reflection of radiation back into space from golf course sand pits, interacting with the solar winds.
Dang those rich religious golfing republicans!! They are Always trying to destroy us! - barktwiggs, on 06/10/2008, -0/+14Ever hear of a dude named Galileo and a thing called the telescope?
- aphexcoil, on 06/10/2008, -2/+15Autobots or Decepticons?
- SteaminTmann, on 06/10/2008, -2/+14I saw a special on what would happen if there were a massive solar storm... scary *****, transformers blowing up everywhere, no power (worldwide) for a long time...
- Kenzan, on 06/10/2008, -0/+11"The next cycle is just beginning and is expected to reach its peak sometime around 2012."
(Dons tin-foil hat) - atb12688, on 06/10/2008, -4/+15It could be a contributing factor in the decrease of global temperatures. Wait... There's been a decrease in global temperatures in the last year? No wai!
- BoneheadFarker, on 06/10/2008, -0/+11Actually, due to the increased activity in the 1990's where average temperatures rose on other planets, not just Earth, and given the fact that everyone is looking at this data saying that humans are causing the increased temperature, it's reasonable to say that global warming is caused by natural means. Mostly because it is caused by natural means. What will finally prove it is when we have an extended period of low activity and we, along with other planets, start experiencing global cooling. Of course we'll then have the "global cooling" nutcases running around like we did in the in the early 20th century...
- BalsamLane, on 06/10/2008, -5/+14Pfft, old! This was on the front page 6 hours ago.
- thcobbs, on 06/10/2008, -0/+9Did you ever read Fallen Angels? Its a book about what happened following the rise of the environmental movement to the point of having green police, banning development of new technology because of the possible damage to the environment, and the prosecution of people who enjoy science fiction.
My favorite line from the book goes something like this:
"Ironic that the greatest environmental disaster in man's history is due to environmentalism"
Basically, the greens had completely cleaned up the environment, but during a lull in solar activity shown by no sunspots an ice age began. - barktwiggs, on 06/10/2008, -0/+9http://www.exploratorium.edu/sunspots/history4.htm ...
Project an image of the sun onto paper and you can trace the sunspots. - datastorageguy, on 06/10/2008, -0/+8If you hold up a piece of paper with a small hole in it, the sunlight passes through and you can see the image on the wall. You can actually see sunspots when you do that. I am sure someone has a more accurate description but that's basically it.
- Necoras, on 06/10/2008, -2/+10No, but it will have a lot to do with drastic global cooling.
- macslut, on 06/10/2008, -0/+7"Of course we'll then have the "global cooling" nutcases running around like we did in the in the early 20th century..."
Not that early. I remember this in the 70s. Some of these same people admitted they were wrong and misinterpreted the early data and then said it was global warming. Global Warming is now not the term to be used. It's Global Climate Change which covers your bases for anything as long as the temperature doesn't stay constant all day, every day. - stealthc, on 06/10/2008, -2/+9Global cooling, and then global warming, and then cooling again, and now global warming again...
I'm starting to understand why they just went with "climate change," instead of sending all the science publications through the Orwell Paper Shredder every 20-odd years. - mattowan, on 06/10/2008, -1/+8I thought the science was settled that the sun has nothing to do with climate!!!
- amadeusdemarzi, on 06/10/2008, -1/+8It's happening because of global warming
- Necoras, on 06/10/2008, -7/+13Again, NO. Fewer sunspots will COOL the earth, not HEAT IT. RTFA!!!!
- jboettcher, on 06/10/2008, -1/+7yeah - "climate change" can be used as a fear tactic then whatever happens. Problem is, the climate will never STOP changing! Argh. Why can't we just accept this and move on to something more important.
- trollick, on 06/10/2008, -0/+6Is anybody surprised? This administration completely ignore the issue for 8 years and did not invest a single dollar into new sun spots.
- VAXcat, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5 Good news for electronics - bad news for high frequency radio propagation. Many of the HF communications bands are useless when there are no sunspots.
- C0MF0RTABLYnumb, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5We are still in an ice age.
- joe8pack, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5A volcano is also quietest right after an eruption, as a matter of fact it can be argued that a volcano is at its loudest only when actually erupting. Let me know if you need more information or can provide grant money so I can study this matter further.
- Shaggy63, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5Its called an RSS Feed and we don't like seeing all the dupes
- aphexcoil, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5The sun is running out of Hydrogen to fuse. We're all going to die in 4 billion years!
- psiege, on 06/10/2008, -3/+8So, if this continues we'll be facing global cooling. A primary example of why I have not jumped on the whole notion of "man-made" global warming.
- killacamry, on 06/10/2008, -1/+6as long as i get my iphone before the ice age ill be fine
- jboettcher, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5Along with the "we're running out of ________" and we'll all die crowd. Insert whatever you want, food, oil, oxygen, I dunno.
- thebellmaster1x, on 06/10/2008, -3/+8Again with this Al Gore nonsense. Al Gore is not a scientist and never has been. It's the SCIENTISTS saying that global warming is caused by humans that matter, not Al Gore. Do you honestly believe that humans and their sprawling industries have NO impact on the Earth's climate? That's foolish.
- solarsavior, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4The Sun looks so nice. That anti-aging cream is really keeping away the spots.
- Steinr, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4This is like saying that a person did not blink for about a second. In terms of lifespan this is so short, it is beyond comprehension...
- inajeep, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4My lack of astronomy knowledge is showing.
- send9, on 06/10/2008, -1/+5Maybe if we all just stopped using the sun like it's some limitless resource, we wouldn't have all these problems. It's time to stop ignoring solar warming!
- stealthc, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4And it is COOLING that has been happening for the last several years.
Environmentalists only hear what they want to hear, apparently. - Kyrgizion, on 06/10/2008, -3/+7Actually, while this probably doesn't interest 95% of people, it is something I have been keeping an eye on for a while. So much so, in fact, that I have a secondary monitor filled with solar monitoring widgets and graphs to keep me updated on the sun's emissions at all times.
And it has been boring lately. Which is good news for our electronics, especially the ones floating 'round us.
But a volcano is also quietest right before an eruption... - jboettcher, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4And my paycheck has nothing to do with the food on my table every night either.
- dblespresso, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4Superman needs to throw the nukes at the sun to get things moving along the correct path. We can fix this.
- mysedai, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4*glances down at breasts* Uh, thanks?
- Necoras, on 06/10/2008, -1/+5WTF?
- drlha, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4That's just the solar minimum, we know that happens every 11 years. What is being talked about here is a very low solar maximum (the peak of that curve).
- wTheOnew, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4Hypocrite
- Necoras, on 06/10/2008, -2/+5No, you get dugg down for not reading the article. A lack of sunspots causes cooling, not warming.
- PabloMac, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3Sure there is. For one thing, we can prevent developing nations from...well, developing. Second, we can each go out and buy a brand new Prius. Third, we can...well, let's just ask Al Gore how to solve this "problem." He can be reached in one of his private jets...
- Shaggy63, on 06/10/2008, -1/+4OH NOES, news about the SUN!! Lets panic and spread FUD.
bah - stealthc, on 06/10/2008, -1/+4I bet it gets tiring to heft that straw man around everywhere you go.
You're perfectly entitled to believe in AGW just like any other religion. I just wish the US would stop violating the 1st amendment by passing AGW-motivated policies.
When a series of impending and immediate climate crises over the last three quarters of a century come and go, I am naturally suspicious when there is so much hyperventilation about how we need to slash global production by 80% or else New York City will be underwater.
Don't pretend that the AGW argument is more complex than that because if it was, then maybe we'd see a few more details in the orgy of "green" ***** coming at us from every direction. The orthodoxy is very simple: Carbon Dioxide, the life-promoting chemical that plants need to survive, is in fact a deadly poison and humans need to stop producing it. Cold is good, warm is bad. Every "green" product and every "green" ad campaign revolves around the concept that every molecule of naturally-occurring CO2 you contribute back into the atmosphere makes the poor Earth cry.
I insult climatologists who insult themselves by joining a religion just to safeguard their careers.
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