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- diggface5000, on 10/10/2007, -6/+43buried for inaccuracy. i'd also bury the telegraph for a misleading title but i don't have that luxury
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20The finding isn't new (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Mars#Viking_experiments), the title is misleading (there should definitely have been a 'may' in there), and the entire story is extremely speculative. Buried as inaccurate.
- NeoRicen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20Inaccurate http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/08/23/are-martians-blonds/
- whitmell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16David Bowie found life on mars in 1973
- TheInfamousOne, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Ah and anything that points to anything other than Intelligent Design is hateful to you bible thumping religious fanatics. See, throwing everyone with a similar opinion into a group and bashing them is fun!
An atheist is a person too, just like you, well, smarter, but other wise, just like you :) - tehWyman, on 08/19/2009, -3/+16Actually, NASA just realized that they had miscalibrated their devices that recorded that information and it may not be true..
:-P - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Proof denies faith, and without faith, God is nothing. Demonstrating that abiogenesis can't happen would be a dead giveaway, though, wouldn't it? It would prove that God exists, and so therefore he doesn't. Q.E.D.
- xposiactionx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9asshat. I'm not atheist nor religous by any degree and I don't buy your Intelligent Design ***** bargain sale. How Intelligent would it be to design a particle and have everything evolve from there? Not very Intelligent to me or most of society. If you claimed that a higher power dropped a few people off and told them to mate like bunnies, I'd have a better time believing it was intelligent design. Thats my take asshat. Love it or leave it. Use your beliefs as a crutch like 95% of the world does. Here comes the digg down, but I dont mind.
- aliendisaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8"Abiogenesis just doesn't happen. This leads to the logical conclusion that an intelligence must have created life on Earth. Uh-oh. See how science itself is evidence that Intelligent Design is accurate?"
Just because it may be rare doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If Intelligent Design were true, where did the Intelligence that created life on Earth come from? Another intelligence or abiogenesis? If another intelligence, where did that one come from? You end up with an endless loop - which is bad - unless you have abiogenesis. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7why submitter, why?
- ngmcs8203, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Go back to your tin foil hat, you may need it for the looming invasion.
- samoflange, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6"Abiogenesis just doesn't happen. This leads to the logical conclusion that an intelligence must have created life on Earth."
Riiight... and with such an impressive sample size of potentially life-supporting planets in the universe, this conclusion must be right! Go buy a Jump to Conclusions mat. - DaleoftheUK, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5...but didn't tell anyone as they were giant robots!
- Arramol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Is it really necessary to turn everything into a theism/atheism debate?
- rocket777, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I was working at JPL in 1980 and we had the first interactive computer graphics system in our lab. One day, Carl Sagan and a JPL employee were sitting on the other side of the room looking over some images from Viking. I heard Sagan say, "Now don't let this out, because if this isn't life, we'll be ridiculed and never get any new funding".
Clearly the two had not noticed me sitting at a terminal. Hmmm, I thought, I ain't getting no funding and I could report this to some Newspaper and get my 15 minutes of fame. Well, I didn't, and they found it was just some water vapor that looked like some possible life process.
Years later, I recall the character Ellie in the movie Contact saying much the same thing that Sagan said on that day. I had to smile as I recalled that day, and feel bad that Carl had died just before the release of the movie that did such a good job putting his book on the big screen.
I guess this has nothing to do with the story, but I couldn't resist telling this, my favorite memory of working at a Nasa Lab. - smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3we expected the article to say that scientists found life on mars back in the 70's.
- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3u r a looser. blocked.
- MadScientist68, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Buried for inaccuracy. It wasn't conclusive at all.
- DooM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Wow - now you're even off your own topic. Well done, lunatic.
- suxmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -12/+14Somehow the 70s does seem like the right time in history to have found life on Mars.
- joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Someone seems to be threatened by the prospect of life being found on other planets.
What, you think a universe that is 99.999999999999999999999% inert matter makes sense theologically? - nepawoods, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Abiogenesis just doesn't happen."
There is no scientific evidence to support that, nor any accepted scientific theory.
You are probably confused by something taught in elementary biology, in a historical context, which is that the old (not SO old) belief that abiogenesis is an everyday occurence, is false. People used to believe that rotting meat would spontaneously transform into maggots, for instance - we now know better. Science does not teach that "abiogenesis just doesn't happen" ... just that many everyday things that were once mistaken for abiogenesis are in fact not. - nawitus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Phoenix spacecraft which was just launched is equiped with atomic force microscope. If there is life on Mars, it will confirm it.
- 2reflective, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If you really want to learn about space and life on other planets, take a look at the press conference given in 2001 which caused a stir at the time but got totally overshadowed by the events of 9/11. There are videos of the whole conference on Google Video / YouTube.
http://www.disclosureproject.org - Tgg161, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2As others have said, the title implies "Scientists found life, and didn't tell anyone!"
But the article seems to say "Scientists thought they found life, but then they weren't sure"
... which isn't really that exciting. Burried. - Smills, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2That is clearly not your mail address. No one would be stupid enough to post their mail address on the internet. It must be of somebody that you hate that, thanks to you is going to get a whole bunch of screwed up letters and who knows what else.
- beerden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I don't understand the point you are trying to make. If there is life on Mars, then there is life on Mars. It either evolved there, or was either put their coincidentally by some ice comet impact, or was put there on purpose. If it was put there on purpose, then it was some intelligent race of creatures capable of navigating space. This still does not mean automatically that some god did it either. God status for intelligent beings in the universe is relative to other intelligent beings in the universe, such as us.
- nepawoods, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Somehow the 70s does seem like the right time in history to have found life on Mars."
I take it you don't have vivid memories of the soil chemistry test reports sent back from the two Viking landers on Mars in 1976.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_biological_experiments - CitizenSnips1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm sick of INACURRATE titles people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no proof YET that they with out a doubt found life on Mars. Title your articles properly!
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no, the article says, scientists expected to find life on mars, but when they got there, they didn't detect any life so they concluded that there wasn't any life on mars. a decade later, there was some more excitement about what some thought was new proof of life on mars, but that was later dismissed. but the article is mostly about a researcher from Justus-Liebig-University in Giessen, Germany, who is claiming today that there might have been (and might still be) life on mars, and we just didn't detect it because our methods/equipment were inadequate, and the article suggests that we ought to find new methods of discovering extinct or extant life on mars in future organic instruments we send to mars.
- in2deep, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Doesn't surprise me!
- DooM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yep. That one tells lie A does not mean that the party told lie B. When has the US Govt told the truth..? Well, that's a long list - it doesn't proclude the fact that it has LIED but it certainly means you can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag.
- hansk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13 cheers for crazy conspiracy theorists ranting and raving about things outside the posted topic.
- nepawoods, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Demonstrating that abiogenesis can't happen would be a dead giveaway, though, wouldn't it? It would prove that God exists ..."
No. Other alternatives are that it would prove that life always existed, or perhaps that God exists, but is not living. - yahoofrom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1to get to the front page yeah
- angryredplanet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"How Intelligent would it be to design a particle and have everything evolve from there? Not very Intelligent to me or most of society"
It may not be intelligent, but I'd put my name to it and call it "really small polymorphic self-powered self-replicating fractal thing" or RSPSPSRFT for brevity. That would be sweet. - SpeaktoMe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It could be that NASA's Mars Landers brought bacteria with it when it landed there.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1BS, the experiment was flawed due to the extremely active Martian regolith (no, Mars has no soil).
The results where totally meaningless then as they are now. - Yeasty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1buried for inaccuracy. phil plait sets the record straight over at bad astronomy.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/08/23/are-martians-blonds/ - nepawoods, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who said anyone said it? (if nobody did, why do you ask?)
- tlehman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1First off, lets agree on a definition of "life", then we can follow with inferring "life" elsewhere.
Also, I know this has been posted, but in case some one missed it: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/08/23/are-martians-blonds/ - Buffster, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Technology has developed a lot since the seventies - perhaps it was just not sophisticated enough back then
- gordonf238, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Imagine if the next probe that goes to Mars brings back soil samples for evaluation, and our scientists here discover that the bacteria in the soil is the identical to the Common Cold? Just think of what type of mass hysteria that would cause. Oh man, that'd be so friggin' awesome!
- SoundJudgment, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1That so-called 'news footage' is yet more propagandist crap disguised as 'legitimate science.' Thanks for linking to it ...in order to provide more proof that religious-kooks really DO have too much free time on their hands. And some of them even own a copy of iMovie software. ;)
- leogodin217, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1It seems to me that historically, if you believed the scientists you would generally be wrong. This is just one example. It started with the flat earth then progressed to garbage creating flies. This makes me wonder if we believe scientists today, will we be wrong just like in the past? I remember asking this in high school during the 80's and the response was "no we are advanced enough today". If you look back at the 80's there are many things they thought they understood and were proven wrong.
- joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Who exactly said that abiogenesis is so common that it happens everywhere?
- joe7845, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0"Microbes on Mars doesn't prove evolution because it still cannot be proven that God didn't put them there." That's right. God did it. That's a good answer to anything. I doubt plate tectonics theory because it still cannot be proven that God doesn't shake the earth with his supernatural powers.
- dukeochutney, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0buried inaccuracy
- happytron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Ah, hardcore, I did not realize that. In 9 months time we're going to have very compelling evidence either supporting or contradicting the hypothesis that life exists on Mars. How exciting.
- mlvassallo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Um, David Bowie found it. No *****.
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